BronBron IS back
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It doesnt matter to me if he does or not! However i think the chances are very good he does now! wade is old washed up heats bench is horrible and i dont see them being able to get any free agent. Rockets and Suns i just cant see i thinl lebron knows the road to finals in the west is much harder.
I say 70 percent chance he is coming back to the cavs i think the only stumbling block is can both him gilbert admit they both made mistakes!
It doesnt matter to me if he does or not! However i think the chances are very good he does now! wade is old washed up heats bench is horrible and i dont see them being able to get any free agent. Rockets and Suns i just cant see i thinl lebron knows the road to finals in the west is much harder.
I say 70 percent chance he is coming back to the cavs i think the only stumbling block is can both him gilbert admit they both made mistakes!
Done.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
He should be villified if he screws us again. In that case he should have known not to screw with our emotions after what hes already done, and eliminated us from consideration earlier in the process.
He got booed at an Ohio State Wisconsin game at the 'Shoe. He knew damn well how Ohio folks felt about him bolting for Miami.
No deal with wiggins. If that's what Lebron is demanding, that we trade for Love which means Wiggins goes...than he should stay in Miami. Kevin Love will be a FA after next year. This upcoming year could be a great audition for Wiggins being able to play with Lebron and Kyrie.....chances are we may very well get Kevin Love the following year. If we were to trade for Love and Lebron ends up deciding to stay in Miami or go elsewhere...that would shitcan the Cavs for 10 years. Keep Wiggins at all costs cause he's our future in case wishy wash decides he's not coming back afterall. He should be plenty pleased to play with Kyrie and Wiggins this year with the almost sure deal we'd get Love the next year. If Lebrons smart he just comes here and coasts for one year letting Kyrie and Wiggins carry the team, probably still make a decent playoff run...but then the following year with Love begins a reign of basketball akin to the 90's bulls. Lebron, Kyrie, Wiggins, Love....hopefully some other big center prototype at some point, it would be a team that Lebron could win championships with till he's in his late 30's. Look at what Kobe's doing and he was the only guy on that team since Shaq left. He'd have played into his 40's if he was on the spurs.
BSPN reporting Wiggins is not in the conversation for Love.
Mark it. We are getting Kevin Love.
But when? The Cavs are in the driver's seat. The TWs can take a sub-market deal for Love now, or get squat for him next year when he opts out.
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Finally, a heartfelt letter to to those few REAL basketball fans in South Florida. Now you can feel our pain- in a small way. Suppose Le Bron was born in West Palm, played for the Heat for a few years, and then said on National TV- I'm taking my talents to Cleveland to play with my pals. Then maybe, you'd understand.
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Finally, a heartfelt letter to to those few REAL basketball fans in South Florida. Now you can feel our pain- in a small way. Suppose Le Bron was born in West Palm, played for the Heat for a few years, and then said on National TV- I'm taking my talents to Cleveland to play with my pals. Then maybe, you'd understand.
Finally, a heartfelt letter to to those few REAL basketball fans in South Florida. Now you can feel our pain- in a small way. Suppose Le Bron was born is West Palm, played for the Heat for a few years, and then said on National TV- I'm taking my talents to Cleveland to play with my pals. Then maybe, you'd understand.
ESPN got those two Heat's fans reaction. That is the entirety of their hardcore fanbase.
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It doesnt matter to me if he does or not! However i think the chances are very good he does now! wade is old washed up heats bench is horrible and i dont see them being able to get any free agent. Rockets and Suns i just cant see i thinl lebron knows the road to finals in the west is much harder.
I say 70 percent chance he is coming back to the cavs i think the only stumbling block is can both him gilbert admit they both made mistakes!
Done.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
He should be villified if he screws us again. In that case he should have known not to screw with our emotions after what hes already done, and eliminated us from consideration earlier in the process.
He got booed at an Ohio State Wisconsin game at the 'Shoe. He knew damn well how Ohio folks felt about him bolting for Miami.
No deal with wiggins. If that's what Lebron is demanding, that we trade for Love which means Wiggins goes...than he should stay in Miami. Kevin Love will be a FA after next year. This upcoming year could be a great audition for Wiggins being able to play with Lebron and Kyrie.....chances are we may very well get Kevin Love the following year. If we were to trade for Love and Lebron ends up deciding to stay in Miami or go elsewhere...that would shitcan the Cavs for 10 years. Keep Wiggins at all costs cause he's our future in case wishy wash decides he's not coming back afterall. He should be plenty pleased to play with Kyrie and Wiggins this year with the almost sure deal we'd get Love the next year. If Lebrons smart he just comes here and coasts for one year letting Kyrie and Wiggins carry the team, probably still make a decent playoff run...but then the following year with Love begins a reign of basketball akin to the 90's bulls. Lebron, Kyrie, Wiggins, Love....hopefully some other big center prototype at some point, it would be a team that Lebron could win championships with till he's in his late 30's. Look at what Kobe's doing and he was the only guy on that team since Shaq left. He'd have played into his 40's if he was on the spurs.
BSPN reporting Wiggins is not in the conversation for Love.
Mark it. We are getting Kevin Love.
But when? The Cavs are in the driver's seat. The TWs can take a sub-market deal for Love now, or get squat for him next year when he opts out.
Done.
He got booed at an Ohio State Wisconsin game at the 'Shoe. He knew damn well how Ohio folks felt about him bolting for Miami.
BSPN reporting Wiggins is not in the conversation for Love.
But when? The Cavs are in the driver's seat. The TWs can take a sub-market deal for Love now, or get squat for him next year when he opts out.
Like I said earlier, the only way the Wolves take the current deal as offered is if someone within the Cavs organization has kidnapped Saunder's family. Y'all might have more draft picks next year than Golden State, but you can't top their offer of talent (if Wiggins isn't involved of course) and cap relief.
If the Wolves don't demand Wiggins they are out of their fucking minds. They've already proven they are willing to wait and create a bidding war with yet another participant. After seeing the Celtics gain countless draft picks last year for two beyond their prime players, why the hell would the Wolves trade away a top ten player in his prime for anything less? More importantly, why would the give a sweetheart deal to the team who just won the lottery, both in the draft and free agency?
However, if y'all give up Waiters, Bennett, Thompson, all your first rounders this year (ones top ten protected, another is 1-5 and 10-15 (I believe) protected and the other can be switched depending on the final standings, plus your 2017 pick? I'd have to look very hard at that if I'm the Wolves. Of course it depends on how they view next year's draft. While that would be a decent to legit deal, they still don't get the cap relief of ridding themselves of Martin's albatross of a contract like they would from Golden State or potentially the Celtics. While future assets are nice, future cap relief is just as, if not more so, sweet. I'll admit I don't know if y'all have any talent over seas that could be added as a sweetener but Saunder's still holds the upper hand.
Y'all are going to have to blow him away in order to pry his ace in the hole from him.
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I'd rather they not sell the farm for Love especially since he's a free agent after this season. Wiggins could be the heir to Lebron after he's done and Waiters is the muscle we need a guy like him. Lebron is going to make all these guys better, we already have the East locked down no need to sell out the future for a short term big 3. I hope Melo signs with the Heat and we see a Cavs vs Heat 2015 eastern conference finals.
Hearing news about all these former Heat guys might sign here, Ray Allen maybe,Birdman yes.. but let's not overdue it I hated the Heat not trying to turn the Cavs into the Heat reincarnated.
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I really hope the Cavs hang on to Wiggins...We can get Love in FA next year.. There's no reason to lose your mind over this...
I really hope the Cavs hang on to Wiggins...We can get Love in FA next year.. There's no reason to lose your mind over this...
I hope not either they reported that the Cavs told Wiggins he won't be traded but you never know. I'm starting to lean on not trading for him at all because I want to hang on to Dion and Thompson too and see how much better they get now that Lebron is here.
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I really hope the Cavs hang on to Wiggins...We can get Love in FA next year.. There's no reason to lose your mind over this...
I hope not either they reported that the Cavs told Wiggins he won't be traded but you never know. I'm starting to lean on not trading for him at all because I want to hang on to Dion and Thompson too and see how much better they get now that Lebron is here.
I hope not either they reported that the Cavs told Wiggins he won't be traded but you never know. I'm starting to lean on not trading for him at all because I want to hang on to Dion and Thompson too and see how much better they get now that Lebron is here.
Yeah the idea of a Front court with Wiggins And Bron is very tempting..As much as I like Varejao, Id rather see a bigger center on the team...I hope they really address that next year.
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I'd rather they not sell the farm for Love especially since he's a free agent after this season. Wiggins could be the heir to Lebron after he's done and Waiters is the muscle we need a guy like him. Lebron is going to make all these guys better, we already have the East locked down no need to sell out the future for a short term big 3. I hope Melo signs with the Heat and we see a Cavs vs Heat 2015 eastern conference finals.
Hearing news about all these former Heat guys might sign here, Ray Allen maybe,Birdman yes.. but let's not overdue it I hated the Heat not trying to turn the Cavs into the Heat reincarnated.
Lebron is going to make all these guys better
He said yesterday he is now ready to take a mentor's role with the Cavs.
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Lebron is saying all the right things...
Including he's going to adopt JM...
Actually I had already been thinking this would be a good stabilizing influence on JM's off-field activities. The King is a very mature young man that can give some really good "older brother" advice. Hell JM already bought in to getting the same agent and the same marketing agency. He's one of the few people out there that JM will listen to.
Actually I had already been thinking this would be a good stabilizing influence on JM's off-field activities. The King is a very mature young man that can give some really good "older brother" advice. Hell JM already bought in to getting the same agent and the same marketing agency. He's one of the few people out there that JM will listen to.
I was half serious when I posted my original comment... half imagining LJ inviting JM to stay at his house.
But when? The Cavs are in the driver's seat. The TWs can take a sub-market deal for Love now, or get squat for him next year when he opts out.
While it would not hurt our timetable to wait a year for Love, with other teams looking to trade for Love I'm not sure the Cav's can sit back. And that will make KL more "expensive". OK City is one that is reportedly in the hunt.
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wiggins within the lebron camp!.......
start rollin those bills boys!......
money maker!!
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Actually I had already been thinking this would be a good stabilizing influence on JM's off-field activities. The King is a very mature young man that can give some really good "older brother" advice. Hell JM already bought in to getting the same agent and the same marketing agency. He's one of the few people out there that JM will listen to.
I was half serious when I posted my original comment... half imagining LJ inviting JM to stay at his house.
But when? The Cavs are in the driver's seat. The TWs can take a sub-market deal for Love now, or get squat for him next year when he opts out.
While it would not hurt our timetable to wait a year for Love, with other teams looking to trade for Love I'm not sure the Cav's can sit back. And that will make KL more "expensive". OK City is one that is reportedly in the hunt.
I was half serious when I posted my original comment... half imagining LJ inviting JM to stay at his house.
While it would not hurt our timetable to wait a year for Love, with other teams looking to trade for Love I'm not sure the Cav's can sit back. And that will make KL more "expensive". OK City is one that is reportedly in the hunt.
OKC is in the hunt? I know Westbrook and Love are friends but unless the Wolves absolutely love Perkins and Collison and Love is willing to sign for around 10-12 mil a year, he isn't coming here.
The only legit deal that would work in this scenario would be to add Ibaka and I'd rather fuck a bag full of broken glass then trade him.
Damnit Tour you just ruined my morning.
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now that it's done with can we move this topic?
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basketball forum, eh?
meanwhile, it is still all about Lebron.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lebron-james-didnt-mention-major-143413689.html
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Actually I had already been thinking this would be a good stabilizing influence on JM's off-field activities. The King is a very mature young man that can give some really good "older brother" advice. Hell JM already bought in to getting the same agent and the same marketing agency. He's one of the few people out there that JM will listen to.
I was half serious when I posted my original comment... half imagining LJ inviting JM to stay at his house.
But when? The Cavs are in the driver's seat. The TWs can take a sub-market deal for Love now, or get squat for him next year when he opts out.
While it would not hurt our timetable to wait a year for Love, with other teams looking to trade for Love I'm not sure the Cav's can sit back. And that will make KL more "expensive". OK City is one that is reportedly in the hunt.
I was half serious when I posted my original comment... half imagining LJ inviting JM to stay at his house.
While it would not hurt our timetable to wait a year for Love, with other teams looking to trade for Love I'm not sure the Cav's can sit back. And that will make KL more "expensive". OK City is one that is reportedly in the hunt.
It all depends if Love is winning to sign an extension or not. Sure OKC can offer a lot- too much IMHO to get Love. No reason he can't play out his contract, and head wherever he wants to.
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whatever happens we gotta keep wiggins......lebron's protege.
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whatever happens we gotta keep wiggins......lebron's protege.
Yea I don't understand this fucking non sense of trading Wiggins. The kid is going to be a star.
I know they need a big man and want to pursue love but maybe Bennett can pan out.
Wiggins is too fucking good and 5 years younger than love.
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whatever happens we gotta keep wiggins......lebron's protege.
Yea I don't understand this fucking non sense of trading Wiggins. The kid is going to be a star.
I know they need a big man and want to pursue love but maybe Bennett can pan out.
Wiggins is too fucking good and 5 years younger than love.
Yea I don't understand this fucking non sense of trading Wiggins. The kid is going to be a star.
I know they need a big man and want to pursue love but maybe Bennett can pan out.
Wiggins is too fucking good and 5 years younger than love.
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we haven't even seen what he (wiggins) can be with the likes of james playing with him.
let love play out his contract in MINN, let's see who the team (lebron) thinks are the keepers are, then if anything sign love next year in FA with a better idea of what the cavs can be.
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Yea I don't understand this fucking non sense of trading Wiggins. The kid is going to be a star.
I know they need a big man and want to pursue love but maybe Bennett can pan out.
Wiggins is too fucking good and 5 years younger than love.
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we haven't even seen what he (wiggins) can be with the likes of james playing with him.
let love play out his contract in MINN, let's see who the team (lebron) thinks are the keepers are, then if anything sign love next year in FA with a better idea of what the cavs can be.
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we haven't even seen what he (wiggins) can be with the likes of james playing with him.
let love play out his contract in MINN, let's see who the team (lebron) thinks are the keepers are, then if anything sign love next year in FA with a better idea of what the cavs can be.
This is totally where I'm at on Wiggins,LeBron..And the rest of whomever sticks..I find Joe Harris intriguing...This could be very fun to watch unfold...It looks as though good days are comming for Cleveland Pro Sports as a whole..But as always..I have guarded optimism.. Just glad the parties that be,patched up theyre differences
And are ready to "Get Busy"
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