Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Hoyer is the starter and it's not even close. Watch training camp daily...JFF is throwing ducks in the dirt and airmailing everyone. He's not comfortable with the offense, yet.
"Showers can do things Manziel can not. He will get bigger and stronger, but right now it isn't even close. Showers is the guy."
"if some of you johnny fanboys would have just listened to me a long time ago, it would have saved you a lot of trouble. Always was going to be Showers. He's the better QB for this system, period."
"Johnny football will take over as soon as Showers drops three games in a row, then we'll come back 9-3." (5.1.2012)
"Showers can do things Manziel can not. He will get bigger and stronger, but right now it isn't even close. Showers is the guy."
if some of you johnny fanboys would have just listened to me a long time ago, it would have saved you a lot of trouble. Always was going to be Showers. He's the better QB for this system, period." Johnny football will take over as soon as Showers drops three games in a row, then we'll come back 9-3." (5.1.2012)
that's great Tex. we've all got stories. like this one i heard about eating crow...
so, how does it all end? and when do u quit watching?
cuz even if Captain Scrambles helps bring 10 Lombardi's to Cleveland...i'll still be following this team until the day i die.
i'm starting to get concerned for you a bit, this fondness and attachment you have to this man that plays for the Browns. as i've said before, Manziel isn't large and he takes big risks...bluntly he's a serious injury away from fucking up your life.
i think you should probably sit down for this Buddy.
ok good. now ask yourself, if Manziel were to be seriously hurt, would you be able to handle it?
honestly Tex.
WHOAH WHOAH it's ok! i'm here for you. just relax and breathe. what you are experiencing is this thing called "awareness". just stay calm...keep breathing. it'll pass, that's just the "realization" setting in.
we'll work through this Tex, don't worry. you're not alone. **pats shoulder**
that's what we have group for. it's gonna be okay, Tex. i promise.
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"Showers can do things Manziel can not. He will get bigger and stronger, but right now it isn't even close. Showers is the guy."
if some of you johnny fanboys would have just listened to me a long time ago, it would have saved you a lot of trouble. Always was going to be Showers. He's the better QB for this system, period." Johnny football will take over as soon as Showers drops three games in a row, then we'll come back 9-3." (5.1.2012)
that's great Tex. we've all got stories. like this one i heard about eating crow...
so, how does it all end? and when do u quit watching?
cuz even if Captain Scrambles helps bring 10 Lombardi's to Cleveland...i'll still be following this team until the day i die.
i'm starting to get concerned for you a bit, this fondness and attachment you have to this man that plays for the Browns. as i've said before, Manziel isn't large and he takes big risks...bluntly he's a serious injury away from fucking up your life.
i think you should probably sit down for this Buddy.
ok good. now ask yourself, if Manziel were to be seriously hurt, would you be able to handle it?
honestly Tex.
WHOAH WHOAH it's ok! i'm here for you. just relax and breathe. what you are experiencing is this thing called "awareness". just stay calm...keep breathing. it'll pass, that's just the "realization" setting in.
we'll work through this Tex, don't worry. you're not alone. **pats shoulder**
that's what we have group for. it's gonna be okay, Tex. i promise.
cuz even if Captain Scrambles helps bring 10 Lombardi's to Cleveland...i'll still be following this team until the day i die.
i'm starting to get concerned for you a bit, this fondness and attachment you have to this man that plays for the Browns. as i've said before, Manziel isn't large and he takes big risks...bluntly he's a serious injury away from fucking up your life. sit down for this if you have to. now ask yourself, if Manziel were to be seriously hurt, would you be able to handle it?
You're saying despite it being Johnny Manziel winning, that you'll still be a Browns fan? What kind of comment is that? How much can you already dislike a kid in his 4th practice? You're saying "Even if we win with Johnny Manziel, I wont like it, but I'll still be following the team"
My lord.
And If I'm not mistaken of Hoyer and Manziel, I believe Hoyer is the only one to be seriously hurt? In his 4th game ever no less. Maybe he's reckless or injury prone.
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Johnny Football Fanboy caught on video defending his idol:
You're mocking the 1st round draft pick of your team. The future starting QB, before he even comes close to playing in a game.
Honestly, what kind of fan is this?
Shouldn't we all be Johnny Manziel fans? Why would a Browns fan ever be mocking Manziel?
This is total insanity.
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He's playing around. You take everything to seriously.
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cuz even if Captain Scrambles helps bring 10 Lombardi's to Cleveland...i'll still be following this team until the day i die.
i'm starting to get concerned for you a bit, this fondness and attachment you have to this man that plays for the Browns. as i've said before, Manziel isn't large and he takes big risks...bluntly he's a serious injury away from fucking up your life. sit down for this if you have to. now ask yourself, if Manziel were to be seriously hurt, would you be able to handle it?
You're saying despite it being Johnny Manziel winning, that you'll still be a Browns fan? What kind of comment is that? How much can you already dislike a kid in his 4th practice? You're saying "Even if we win with Johnny Manziel, I wont like it, but I'll still be following the team"
My lord.
And If I'm not mistaken of Hoyer and Manziel, I believe Hoyer is the only one to be seriously hurt? In his 4th game ever no less. Maybe he's reckless or injury prone.
Anti-Browns said:
You're saying despite it being Johnny Manziel winning, that you'll still be a Browns fan? What kind of comment is that? How much can you already dislike a kid in his 4th practice? You're saying "Even if we win with Johnny Manziel, I wont like it, but I'll still be following the team"
My lord.
And If I'm not mistaken of Hoyer and Manziel, I believe Hoyer is the only one to be seriously hurt? In his 4th game ever no less. Maybe he's reckless or injury prone.
wtf??? you kidding??? shit homey i'd LOVE IT. he'd probably bump out e-rock and Bernie and become my favorite player ALL TIME somewhere along that ride...but i'll still be a Browns fan. that will never change.
i'm a fan of all players currently on the team...except maybe Mingo and Kruger for underwhelming a bit...but fyi i don't like Hoyer more than Johnny. i like them both. i just like them differently. and i see them differently. in 3D. different planes. different times. different players. different people. 4D even...
no one here is black and white "all Manziel or nothing"...except maybe you and TX.
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Johnny Football Fanboy caught on video defending his idol:
You're mocking the 1st round draft pick of your team. The future starting QB, before he even comes close to playing in a game.
Honestly, what kind of fan is this?
Shouldn't we all be Johnny Manziel fans? Why would a Browns fan ever be mocking Manziel?
This is total insanity.
HoyerHater said:
You're mocking the 1st round draft pick of your team. The future starting QB, before he even comes close to playing in a game.
Honestly, what kind of fan is this?
Shouldn't we all be Johnny Manziel fans? Why would a Browns fan ever be mocking Manziel?
This is total insanity.
not speaking for DB but in years of reading him here i never once recall reading where he mocked Manziel.
just his fans.
reading comprehension. try it.
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"Showers can do things Manziel can not. He will get bigger and stronger, but right now it isn't even close. Showers is the guy."
if some of you johnny fanboys would have just listened to me a long time ago, it would have saved you a lot of trouble. Always was going to be Showers. He's the better QB for this system, period." Johnny football will take over as soon as Showers drops three games in a row, then we'll come back 9-3." (5.1.2012)
that's great Tex. we've all got stories. like this one i heard about eating crow...
so, how does it all end? and when do u quit watching?
cuz even if Captain Scrambles helps bring 10 Lombardi's to Cleveland...i'll still be following this team until the day i die.
i'm starting to get concerned for you a bit, this fondness and attachment you have to this man that plays for the Browns. as i've said before, Manziel isn't large and he takes big risks...bluntly he's a serious injury away from fucking up your life.
i think you should probably sit down for this Buddy.
ok good. now ask yourself, if Manziel were to be seriously hurt, would you be able to handle it?
honestly Tex.
WHOAH WHOAH it's ok! i'm here for you. just relax and breathe. what you are experiencing is this thing called "awareness". just stay calm...keep breathing. it'll pass, that's just the "realization" setting in.
we'll work through this Tex, don't worry. you're not alone. **pats shoulder**
that's what we have group for. it's gonna be okay, Tex. i promise.
that's great Tex. we've all got stories. like this one i heard about eating crow...
so, how does it all end? and when do u quit watching?
cuz even if Captain Scrambles helps bring 10 Lombardi's to Cleveland...i'll still be following this team until the day i die.
i'm starting to get concerned for you a bit, this fondness and attachment you have to this man that plays for the Browns. as i've said before, Manziel isn't large and he takes big risks...bluntly he's a serious injury away from fucking up your life.
i think you should probably sit down for this Buddy.
ok good. now ask yourself, if Manziel were to be seriously hurt, would you be able to handle it?
honestly Tex.
WHOAH WHOAH it's ok! i'm here for you. just relax and breathe. what you are experiencing is this thing called "awareness". just stay calm...keep breathing. it'll pass, that's just the "realization" setting in.
we'll work through this Tex, don't worry. you're not alone. **pats shoulder**
that's what we have group for. it's gonna be okay, Tex. i promise.
I'm a libertarian leaning anarcho-capitalist who cannot stand our culture of ignoring logic in favor of feelings, shaming attempts and femininity.
I dislike people trying to force others to act a certain way because it benefits them.
It's an insecure self-preservation attempt for the weak and cowardly.
So I'ma fan of manziel because he makes these idiots look idiotic.
it's entertaining.
but if that's above your head, I'll give you the public school jeans to a wedding version:
Now, the real question is this:
"cuz even if Captain Scrambles helps bring 10 Lombardi's to Cleveland...i'll still be following this team until the day i die."
why are you so attached to the Browns? my guess: you're protecting the banana like a dumb lab monkey.
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Cowboy fans... what a fucking joke.
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that's great Tex. we've all got stories. like this one i heard about eating crow...
so, how does it all end? and when do u quit watching?
cuz even if Captain Scrambles helps bring 10 Lombardi's to Cleveland...i'll still be following this team until the day i die.
i'm starting to get concerned for you a bit, this fondness and attachment you have to this man that plays for the Browns. as i've said before, Manziel isn't large and he takes big risks...bluntly he's a serious injury away from fucking up your life.
i think you should probably sit down for this Buddy.
ok good. now ask yourself, if Manziel were to be seriously hurt, would you be able to handle it?
honestly Tex.
WHOAH WHOAH it's ok! i'm here for you. just relax and breathe. what you are experiencing is this thing called "awareness". just stay calm...keep breathing. it'll pass, that's just the "realization" setting in.
we'll work through this Tex, don't worry. you're not alone. **pats shoulder**
that's what we have group for. it's gonna be okay, Tex. i promise.
I'm a libertarian leaning anarcho-capitalist who cannot stand our culture of ignoring logic in favor of feelings, shaming attempts and femininity.
I dislike people trying to force others to act a certain way because it benefits them.
It's an insecure self-preservation attempt for the weak and cowardly.
So I'ma fan of manziel because he makes these idiots look idiotic.
it's entertaining.
but if that's above your head, I'll give you the public school jeans to a wedding version:
Now, the real question is this:
"cuz even if Captain Scrambles helps bring 10 Lombardi's to Cleveland...i'll still be following this team until the day i die."
why are you so attached to the Browns? my guess: you're protecting the banana like a dumb lab monkey.
I'm a libertarian and I dislike people
that was the weirdest goddamn video post of the year. the politics and libertarian stuff (cheers btw) i got fine but what the hell was the message intent in that vid?? devoid of interesting highlights of Manziel or relevant info about him, it actually made me kinda pissed!
does Rage [ATM] know about this youtube ripoff band out there blatantly plagiarizing their sound? like not inspired or an homage or a tribute at all they are literally trying to be them. talent-less hacks. and what a horrible rendition! just HORRIBLE. like the worst album they never did shortly after replacing Zack w someone who doesnt sound like him but tries to rap like him.
on that song i need to bow out! such desecration! i submit! UNCLE!
seriously that was bad. horrible. that actually left scars.
Now, the real question is this:
why are you so attached to the Browns?
devout masochism
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I'm a libertarian and I dislike people
that was the weirdest goddamn video post of the year. the politics and libertarian stuff (cheers btw) i got fine but what the hell was the message intent in that vid?? devoid of interesting highlights of Manziel or relevant info about him, it actually made me kinda pissed!
does Rage [ATM] know about this youtube ripoff band out there blatantly plagiarizing their sound? like not inspired or an homage or a tribute at all they are literally trying to be them. talent-less hacks. and what a horrible rendition! just HORRIBLE. like the worst album they never did shortly after replacing Zack w someone who doesnt sound like him but tries to rap like him.
on that song i need to bow out! such desecration! i submit! UNCLE!
seriously that was bad. horrible. that actually left scars.
Now, the real question is this:
why are you so attached to the Browns?
devout masochism
that was the weirdest goddamn video post of the week. the politics and libertarian stuff (cheers btw) i got fine but what the hell was the message intent in that vid?? devoid of interesting highlights of Manziel or relevant info about him.
"the public school jeans to a wedding version"
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That was a strange ass video. This isn't college anymore. Thats the deal. I wish JFF all the best, I hope he turns into another Montana. But his fans are irritating as hell.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
that was the weirdest goddamn video post of the week. the politics and libertarian stuff (cheers btw) i got fine but what the hell was the message intent in that vid?? devoid of interesting highlights of Manziel or relevant info about him.
"the public school jeans to a wedding version"
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That was a strange ass video. This isn't college anymore. Thats the deal. I wish JFF all the best, I hope he turns into another Montana. But his fans are irritating as hell.
I wish JFF all the best, I hope he turns into another Montana. But his fans are irritating as hell.
Quote of the thread - hell, quote of the year - and probably exactly how must of us Browns fans feel......... I know it's how I feel.
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Johnny Football poster, good one, you've very clever.
This isn't even about Manziel. I'm excited because of his upside, but I've said over and over he is Boom or Bust. I'm fully aware.What this is about is Hoyer and people thinking that somehow he is either going to 1) Keep the starting job forever and/or 2) Turn into Kurt Warner.
Both of those scenarios are insane.
History will not look kindly on people who keep posting about Hoyers potential greatness.Johnny Football poster, good one, you've very clever.
This isn't even about Manziel. I'm excited because of his upside, but I've said over and over he is Boom or Bust. I'm fully aware.
What this is about is Hoyer and people thinking that somehow he is either going to 1) Keep the starting job forever and/or 2) Turn into Kurt Warner.
Both of those scenarios are insane.
History will not look kindly on people who keep posting about Hoyers potential greatness.
History?
You make it sound like there will be a black mark that eternally follows those foolish people.
No matter the QB, once he takes a snap for my team l'm hardwired to root like hell for the guy.
I like the underdog/hometown hero thing with Hoyer, and can't help but pull for the guy, l'll admit it.
If Johnny outplays him and becomes my starting QB, that's cool too. It's likely a matter of when and not if. Like l said, hardwired.
But nobody gets to make me feel like an asshole because l thought the underdog might outperform the 1st rounder.
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I love turtles.
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If Jonathan Paul Manziel wins it outright, then great. The bandwagon fans that he has is like the Lebron fans that follow him, they will go where ever they go. You cant fault them for doing that. However, if they are bandwagon fans, they are just Manziel fans. If they sit through every game the last 20 something years then they can say what they want. Google the Browns and read up my friends, there are no more loyal fans then us. If you get mad that we dont accept you here, then earn it.
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According to the NFL Network, Manziel has been the first one to practice every day and the last to leave every day.
I wish Hoyer would show that kind of professionalism.According to the NFL Network, Manziel has been the first one to practice every day and the last to leave every day.
I wish Hoyer would show that kind of professionalism.
YOU SIR ARE A LIAR, AND I'LL CALL THAT TO YOUR BIG BLOCK INCOMPREHENSIBLE HEAD.
YOU ARE A POSER AND NOTHING BUT A TROUBLE STARTER.
WHY DON'T YOU GET YOUR FUCKING MONKEY AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.
DRIVE SAFE. HAVE A NICE DAY.
OH ANDBTW GRAB A COOKIE ON THE WAY OUT.
BITCH.
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That was a strange ass video. This isn't college anymore. Thats the deal. I wish JFF all the best, I hope he turns into another Montana. But his fans are irritating as hell.
That was a strange ass video. This isn't college anymore. Thats the deal. I wish JFF all the best, I hope he turns into another Montana. But his fans are irritating as hell.
Fair enough.
but how irritating is the constant hyperbolic selective outrage spewed by none manziel fans?
this shit has been going on for too long.
last year, he overslept the manning camp. prolly was from drinking. who knows though.
and people were saying he lost the heisman for oversleeping.
is that kind of idiocy not annoying?
is the constant TMZ attention on him not annoying? does he bring it on himself?
Does a woman wearing a miniskirt bring on rape?
a society that cares more about what manziel does on the weekend than they do about a war we're currently in, not annoying?
i admit it, the idiocy around manziel gets under my skin.
An article by clay travis that's still relevant:
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