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  • We should probably trade Hoyer for Kevin Love. Then we can keep Wiggins.

  • Manziel was a mistake by an owner that just wanted some quick money and a distraction.

  • Seems all he has on this board is hatefullness.

    I really did get only one Browns card - Hoyer's, and made

    a little joke about the competition and discussions about

    who will start.

    Good golly, miss molly, it was a joke. But I do think Hoyer will start.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Good golly, miss molly, it was a joke.

    I got it. It was not quite up to the standards of your political humor, but it was pretty good.

    Problem is this joke was on much more sensitive, much more important subject matter... 😉

  • Why do we continue to let this fucking idiot post on this board when he does nothing but talk shit about the fan base

    @comeonman said:

    Why do we continue to let this fucking idiot post on this board when he does nothing but talk shit about the fan base

    I think Ghoolie....like the rest of us, is fed up with the losing. He just goes about showing his frustration in a different way.....by taking it out on us....and on the best players we have.....instead of taking it out on the worst players or the FO etc.

  • @comeonman said:

    Why do we continue to let this fucking idiot post on this board when he does nothing but talk shit about the fan base

    I think Ghoolie....like the rest of us, is fed up with the losing. He just goes about showing his frustration in a different way.....by taking it out on us....and on the best players we have.....instead of taking it out on the worst players or the FO etc.

    @the-gipper said:

    I think Ghoolie....like the rest of us, is fed up with the losing. He just goes about showing his frustration in a different way.....by taking it out on us....and on the best players we have.....instead of taking it out on the worst players or the FO etc.

    Oh ok....... He's nine years old, got it. As you were Ghoolie
  • Johnny is working with the first team today.

    In the live stream of TC, his first play was a PA pass and hit Benjamin in a perfect over-the-shoulder spot for about 35-40 yards. Stepped up in the pocket well and delivered a nice ball.

  • So Johnny looks good in practice? So what? Weeden was great in practice and in Preseason. Let Hoyer start, we've seen he's been good in real NFL games. If he stinks it up, bring in the kid to see what he can do in real games. We're in a good position at QB right now. No need to rush J Boy into the game if Hoyer plays like he did last season. Granted it was a short amount of time, but Hoyer is quick at getting the ball to his receivers.

  • This fan base has to be the most Retarded ive ever seen. Johnny looked better by far today. Once he gets some freaking WRs who can freaking catch the ball look out. Learn the difference between dropped balls and bad passing. Blind ass brown fans...Unreal....

    @atmbrowns said:

    This fan base has to be the most Retarded ive ever seen. Blind ass brown fans...

    "ass to mouth" hahahaha! generalizations are fun!

    Zombo said:

    What's eating your anus?

    Zombo

    well...rimming or "tossing" usually but with a hand-ey they call it a rusty trombone...just in case you were asking literally. 😮

  • Johnny is working with the first team today.

    In the live stream of TC, his first play was a PA pass and hit Benjamin in a perfect over-the-shoulder spot for about 35-40 yards. Stepped up in the pocket well and delivered a nice ball.

    @utzie said:

    Johnny is working with the first team today.

    In the live stream of TC, his first play was a PA pass and hit Benjamin in a perfect over-the-shoulder spot for about 35-40 yards. Stepped up in the pocket well and delivered a nice ball.

    I watched that too.

    I hope Hoyer comes in and plays some amazing ball and we don't have to worry about the polarizing Johnny Manziel. But if he doesn't, I'm happy we have a guy like JFF who has a lot to his game to be excited about.

    This just strikes me as being such a better situation than last year when I heard Weeden was the go-to. Made the year feel like it was going to be another waste.

  • So Johnny looks good in practice? So what? Weeden was great in practice and in Preseason. Let Hoyer start, we've seen he's been good in real NFL games. If he stinks it up, bring in the kid to see what he can do in real games. We're in a good position at QB right now. No need to rush J Boy into the game if Hoyer plays like he did last season. Granted it was a short amount of time, but Hoyer is quick at getting the ball to his receivers.

    @usfbrown said:

    So Johnny looks good in practice? So what? Weeden was great in practice and in Preseason. Let Hoyer start, we've seen he's been good in real NFL games. If he stinks it up, bring in the kid to see what he can do in real games. We're in a good position at QB right now. No need to rush J Boy into the game if Hoyer plays like he did last season. Granted it was a short amount of time, but Hoyer is quick at getting the ball to his receivers.

    This can't be serious.

    This is a good position? What's an average one? Bad one?

    This hoyer love is strange.

  • It isn't Hoyer love, it's knowing that, given the ability to make plays and run the offense

    skillwise with both qb's, the advantage goes to the veteran experience to handle

    all the different defenses and schemes that he will face.

    My guess is, that Hoyer can flat out run the offense and he has the experience to top it off.

    We'll see how it all shakes out.

  • @usfbrown said:

    So Johnny looks good in practice? So what? Weeden was great in practice and in Preseason. Let Hoyer start, we've seen he's been good in real NFL games. If he stinks it up, bring in the kid to see what he can do in real games. We're in a good position at QB right now. No need to rush J Boy into the game if Hoyer plays like he did last season. Granted it was a short amount of time, but Hoyer is quick at getting the ball to his receivers.

    This can't be serious.

    This is a good position? What's an average one? Bad one?

    This hoyer love is strange.

    @txdawg said:

    This can't be serious.

    This is a good position? What's an average one? Bad one?

    This hoyer love is strange.

    Lets see, Hoyer started 3 games, we won those three games. That's about par for the amount of wins in an entire Browns season the last decade. That's good to me.

  • Well we pinned the problem then.

    Good to me means significantly above average.

    But I speak English not nfl loser.

    It's intellectually insulting to suggest hoyer is anything but unproven. The different standards when comparing theQBs is noticeable

  • @the-gipper said:

    I think Ghoolie....like the rest of us, is fed up with the losing. He just goes about showing his frustration in a different way.....by taking it out on us....and on the best players we have.....instead of taking it out on the worst players or the FO etc.

    Oh ok....... He's nine years old, got it. As you were Ghoolie

    @comeonman said:

    Oh ok....... He's nine years old, got it. As you were Ghoolie

    Yea, that's about right.

  • So Johnny looks good in practice? So what? Weeden was great in practice and in Preseason. Let Hoyer start, we've seen he's been good in real NFL games. If he stinks it up, bring in the kid to see what he can do in real games. We're in a good position at QB right now. No need to rush J Boy into the game if Hoyer plays like he did last season. Granted it was a short amount of time, but Hoyer is quick at getting the ball to his receivers.

    @usfbrown said:

    So Johnny looks good in practice? So what? Weeden was great in practice and in Preseason. Let Hoyer start, we've seen he's been good in real NFL games. If he stinks it up, bring in the kid to see what he can do in real games. We're in a good position at QB right now. No need to rush J Boy into the game if Hoyer plays like he did last season. Granted it was a short amount of time, but Hoyer is quick at getting the ball to his receivers.

    Yea, Weeden has some QB ratings in preseason games at like the 120.00 level.....then when things started for real......it was about a 20.00 level.

    I mean, we talkin' about practice! Not a game, not game.

  • Well we pinned the problem then.

    Good to me means significantly above average.

    But I speak English not nfl loser.

    It's intellectually insulting to suggest hoyer is anything but unproven. The different standards when comparing theQBs is noticeable

    @txdawg said:

    Well we pinned the problem then.

    Good to me means significantly above average.

    But I speak English not nfl loser.

    It's intellectually insulting to suggest hoyer is anything but unproven. The different standards when comparing theQBs is noticeable

    Intellectually insulting to who? Not you because you have to be intelligent to be "intellectually insulted."

    I consider great to be significantly above average. Average, good, great. There you go fuck face. Or for instance: idiot, stupid, full Retard (i.e. you). I'm done discussing arbitrary levels of grading people with an ass clown.

    And different standards? I judge Hoyer on his NFL experience and play in real games. Your lover boy is yet to be determined how well he can play in the NFL.

  • @usfbrown said:

    So Johnny looks good in practice? So what? Weeden was great in practice and in Preseason. Let Hoyer start, we've seen he's been good in real NFL games. If he stinks it up, bring in the kid to see what he can do in real games. We're in a good position at QB right now. No need to rush J Boy into the game if Hoyer plays like he did last season. Granted it was a short amount of time, but Hoyer is quick at getting the ball to his receivers.

    This can't be serious.

    This is a good position? What's an average one? Bad one?

    This hoyer love is strange.

    @txdawg said:

    This can't be serious.

    This is a good position? What's an average one? Bad one?

    This hoyer love is strange.

    It's not all that strange- I've mentioned before if Hoyer was from California, it would be a lot different. Pulling for the local kid to do well. Is it that hard to understand? That's why NE Ohio was in a state of shock and mourning when the biggest hometown hero of all- Le Bron James, decided to "take his talents to South Beach". In his first stint with the Cavs, Le Bron could have run for mayor- and won- easily.

    Sorry regarding proven- Hoyer is more proven than Manziel- as he's actually played in a real NFL game, JF has not.

    I knew this was going to happen. Manziel looked OK in a controlled scrimmage, (not great mind you). Looked OK (not great again) today practicing with the #1s. That's a far cry from a real preseason game, and the regular season is in another dimension.

    Did we see what has you Johnny Man-lovers salivating over? Yes. I'll be tuning in live this Saturday @ 7:30 PM to see if JF gets some reps with the first team offense against Suh and Fairley. Welcome to the REAL NFL Johnny.

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    Pittsburgh Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau: 'I'm expecting Johnny Manziel to be the starter' for Cleveland Browns

    "I'm expecting (Johnny) Manziel to be the starter," LeBeau told cleveland.com Monday, a day Manziel earned exclusive first-team reps for the first time in practice. "That's what I'm expecting. What he did in college is not an accident. He did it often enough against good teams."

    "I think he is going to be a handful for all of us," said LeBeau, a Pro Football Hall of Famer. "You watch all his games and he created plays, he made plays, he kept plays alive.

    "He has the ability to see people and the touch with the football to get it in there late in the down. I think he will be successful at this level."

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/08/pittsburgh_steelers_defensive.html

    Same could be said of Tebow.

  • Lebeau could just be praising him, but that is nice for a DC of his pedigree to say those things. Manziel at Family Day was cautious but still stuinning to watch at times.

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    Pittsburgh Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau: 'I'm expecting Johnny Manziel to be the starter' for Cleveland Browns

    "I'm expecting (Johnny) Manziel to be the starter," LeBeau told cleveland.com Monday, a day Manziel earned exclusive first-team reps for the first time in practice. "That's what I'm expecting. What he did in college is not an accident. He did it often enough against good teams."

    "I think he is going to be a handful for all of us," said LeBeau, a Pro Football Hall of Famer. "You watch all his games and he created plays, he made plays, he kept plays alive.

    "He has the ability to see people and the touch with the football to get it in there late in the down. I think he will be successful at this level."

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/08/pittsburgh_steelers_defensive.html

    Same could be said of Tebow.

    @usfbrown said:

    Same could be said of Tebow.

    Manziel and Tebow aren't even close to having similar styles. They were talking about Tebow moving positions before he even got in the NFL. He was a fullback at quarterback surrounded by some of the best players in the country with Urban on the sidelines.