Cleveland's Biggest Draft Busts
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@jadbf said:
Mike Junkinagreed
agreed
Pretty sure we've done this thread a few times lately.
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Tommy Vardell
Not only did the guy suck he broke up plays intended for his own guys which took suck to a whole new level.
(shoot me for this one)
Ernie Davis
Never got to play a down, the kid was real class but it seems from THAT moment with that pick it was all downhill from there and we started seeing some real busts.
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Easily Mad Dog in a Meat Market.
Just because of the timing of it. We REALLY needed to hit on that pick to get a player to put us over the top.
Marty and the boys not only struck out, they struck out looking on a 80mph fastball down the middle of the plate down by one with bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth of game 7 of the World Series.
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I do want to offer up one more that sticks with me.
Don Rogers.
Why? Because when the m-f'er decided to snort his life away, he also snorted away a couple Browns Super Bowls.
If he had been around, there is no way Mr. Ed drives 98 yards on us. Not with him in centerfield. Not in Mr. Rogers neighborhood.
But in my book, he's still a bust because he chose the powder over everything else. Period.
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Its gotta be Mike Phipps.
Not to be morbid, trading Bobby Mitchell for the draft rights to Ernie Davis.
Trading a first round pick to draft Lawyer Tillman in the second round. Tillman could have been a beast, if not for injuries. However, nothing tangible to show.
How about taking Clifton Charlton over Alonzo Highsmith.
Drafting Tim Couch rather than taking the Ditka trade or drafting just about any other player.
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Dajuan Wagner?
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How about a couple of Browns draft picks that i don't think ever made it to our city........
Ron Brown was a track star for Arizona State. In 1983, the Browns used a 2nd round pick on him. THEN he decided to try out for the Olympics. He eventually played in the NFL, but not for the Browns.
Jeremiah Pharms was arrested (and eventually convicted) of a felony crime after the 2001 draft. He was a 5th round pick.
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How about a couple of Browns draft picks that i don't think ever made it to our city........
Ron Brown was a track star for Arizona State. In 1983, the Browns used a 2nd round pick on him. THEN he decided to try out for the Olympics. He eventually played in the NFL, but not for the Browns.
Jeremiah Pharms was arrested (and eventually convicted) of a felony crime after the 2001 draft. He was a 5th round pick.
Jeremiah Pharms was arrested (and eventually convicted) of a felony crime after the 2001 draft. He was a 5th round pick.
Ole Butchie certainly did his homework on that one....
Fast Fact:
Pharms, a 250-pound linebacker from Sacramento, Calif., was a star at the UW. He bench-pressed more than 400 pounds, sported a pit-bull tattoo, and sometimes, during games, locked eyes with an opposing player and proceeded to urinate, the stream darkening his pants. He did this to intimidate. After all, who'd want to go against someone as crazy as that?
Read the rest of the great story via here
PS - Rick Neuheisel is scum, not that you didn't already know this.
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Courtney Brown
Daniel Ferry
Greg Swindell
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Same here.
It's sad as hell a model player's life had to end the way it did. The kid was pure class.
So maybe I can say Ernie Davis himself was not a bust, but his draft pick was since it was a 1st rounder that never even got to see the field.
As a kid I can remember the night exhibition game that they introduced Ernie Davis
at Cleveland Municipal Stadium. They turned out the field lights and spotlighted
him as he jogged through the goal posts and to his teammates at midfield
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You must be pretty young and a Couch fan, because Warren was far from the biggest bust.
Phipps was the biggest bust.....not only was he a high pick, we gave up a HOF receiver(Warfield) to get him.
Sorry man....you fail on this thread.
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Courtney Brown
Daniel Ferry
Greg Swindell
Courtney Brown
Daniel Ferry
Greg Swindell
Sorry. i don't agree with any of these.
Courtney had a darn good rookie season. He wasn't a complete bust (but injuries killed his career, so i know where you're coming from).
Ron Harper was my favorite player. Trading him for Ferry was stupid. i think Danny may be still the all time leader in minutes played or some stupid statistic (but i know where you're coming from).
i have no idea where you're coming from on Swindell. He was one of our best players on some absolutely horrible teams.
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Zombo said:
You can throw in Rahim Abdullah, Craig Powell, Lawyer Tillman, Clifford Charlton, Greg Allen, Ron Brown, Keith "Pure" Baldwin, Willis Adams and Steve Holden
Lots of linebackers, defensive ends and receivers...
Zombo
Good stuff. I saw Furns' post and was going to name most of these guys too. You guys nailed them all. I'm not old enough to remember him, but Greg Pruitt once told me that Holden was the worst pick he could remember. I forgot about Greg Allen. How about Travis Prentice?
Cleveland "Pittsburgh" Crosby.
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what about chris palmer, butch davis and romeo crennel? they were pretty bad choices. however they all pail in comparison to the biggest bust of all: art model
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