***Official Browns @ Lions Preseason Game Night Thread***

[miktoxic]

1st team defense looked great once they settled in and they were missing people.

i think both QBs have/had a lot of pressure on them not only from us but the national media.

you don't think they know that they hyped this as the new space shuttlle mission?

it was like watching a preview to expendables 8.

[Adoug319]

You guys are freaking out over 3 plays... Calm down

[Soju]

Yeah...let's roll with Hoyer

[USFBrown]

Its preseason. Means nothing. I'd like to manziel throw from the pocket. Hasn't had the best protection tho.

[USFBrown]

Kid does have an arm

[Soju]

wheres the o-line protection jeez

[USFBrown]

@soju said:

wheres the o-line protection jeez

Yeah pretty poor. But Johnny's put on a pretty good performance.

[Soju]

west is complete garbage. lol at the borwns taking a chance ona small college kid, he should have went undrafted. BS player, he's no pro.

[cdl15]

John Football is still one season away from being ready for this level. Hoyers job to lose at this point. West will be fine. Tate scares me alot

[USFBrown]

@cdl15 said:

John Football is still one season away from being ready for this level. Hoyers job to lose at this point. West will be fine. Tate scares me alot

Yeah. I still think we ride Hoyer until he shows he can't win. Won't hurt johnny to sit and learn.

Wonder how he'll be able to run against raven or cinci d.

[TypicalBrowns]

Manziel is raw but its evident why we drafted him

[cuwoohio]

I don't think he's (JF) is a year away at all. It looks more like the coaches are behind in using his talents effectively.

[Alkid3]

Some of you in here are not watching the same game.

[cdl15]

@typicalbrowns said:

Manziel is raw but its evident why we drafted him

YEa he's got to get smarter with his body. He barely getting to the sideline for a 1st down with wide open wr in front of him. Against starters he gets killed.

[cdl15]

Real impressed with Charles Johnson. Hope he gets a legit shot with the 1s

[cuwoohio]

Manziel's arm is far superior to Hoyers. We already knew he was more mobile, so it's only a matter of time. (Like game 2 in the regular season)

[TXDawg]

Lol. You hoyer guys are hilarious.

[TXDawg]

@cuwoohio said:

I don't think he's (JF) is a year away at all. It looks more like the coaches are behind in using his talents effectively.

Ding

[cdl15]

@cuwoohio said:

Manziel's arm is far superior to Hoyers. We already knew he was more mobile, so it's only a matter of time. (Like game 2 in the regular season)

Ehh I don't know about far superior. He won't be ready by week 3. Pettine knows it too

[USFBrown]

@cuwoohio said:

Manziel's arm is far superior to Hoyers. We already knew he was more mobile, so it's only a matter of time. (Like game 2 in the regular season)

Not if Hoyer is winning games. I don't think anyone on here is arguing manziel doesn't have better physical tools than Hoyer. But Hoyer is accurate and makes quick reads which are great traits for NFL qbs.

The mental part is just as important as physical with an NFL qb.