***Official Browns @ Lions Preseason Game Night Thread***

DieHardBrownsFan

JFF had the better night. A kid right out of college ended up with a higher ranking then Hoyer with years in the NFL. After a few days practice.

Dste Ace

@tour2ma said:

Well for a good bit of the thread it was like I was watching a replay... and then the QB battle broke out...

I watched last nite as a fan, so only have a couple impressions to share at this point. I will breakdown the recording today or tomorrow... with the sound down because...

My first game impression was that Solomon Wilcotts was in mid-season form. I was so looking forward to the Detroit announcers in the 2nd half, but no... it was Solomon all the way. Don't know if I can handle any more of his inane color commentary.

My second game impression was that absolutely nothing happened to change the QB competition.

My third game impression was that we have a ways to go in all facets of the game. I was expecting better...

I especially found the poor tackling troubling. I also saw defenders taking bad angles and essentially

running themselves out of the play.

jrb12711

@comeonman said:
Hoyer's high notes were the same as last year. He doesn't stare down receivers, makes quick decisions and gets the ball out quick. He was a bit off target. Manziel looked shifty, but needs to learn to slide. Some passes were great, others not so much. Room for improvement with both. No way to pin a starter yet

I can see the upside in Manziel, but after last night I just hope they let him learn and don't rush him out there. There's still a ways to go till week one though so he might hit that curve by then.

USFBrown

@diehardbrownsfan said:
JFF had the better night. A kid right out of college ended up with a higher ranking then Hoyer with years in the NFL. After a few days practice.

Its just too funny now. Should we get Weeden and McCoy back since they outplayed both our qbs?

choco

Really? OK...could've sworn they punted.

Yup....they punted. Watching the game again...right now.

How much fan boi is required to willfully ignore facts?

choco

@diehardbrownsfan said:
JFF had the better night. A kid right out of college ended up with a higher ranking then Hoyer with years in the NFL. After a few days practice.

Against inferior competition.

Still looked good....not better.

D Bone

Definitely a new level of weirdness with these JFF fags. To like a dude, a complete stranger, so much, that you can't see anything past his pretty face is beyond weird.

hoorta

@choco said:

Against inferior competition.

Still looked good....not better.

Hoyer sailed a couple passes (and had a couple dropped)- Manziel took off when he had a receiver wide open, and dove when he should have slid. Wash.

USFBrown

@everlastingxxx said:
Oh you assholes need to stop with the fag shit. You probably sucked a dick back in your day. People love watching Manziel play. Has nothing to with dick sucking, asshole fucking or anything else homo you fantasize about. Fuckin fairy.

Oh its quite the contrary. You manzielites are the fairies who can stand if he doesn't start right away which means you can't see him in tight pants from the get go.

Zombo

@everlastingxxx said:
Agreed. I think both guys did some good things and some bad things. This game Monday night should decide it all. One of these guys needs to stand out. Otherwise id hate to be coach Pettine.

Hoyer would be the starter by default, it's Manziel that needs a knockout punch.

And it is based on practices as well, not just what we see in the preseason games.

I think Pettine feels they are both starters, so he can't really go wrong with who decides to start the season with.

Z

choco

I think it'd be much more difficult for the coach and staff to trot out the Lil guy for game 1. The only way they win is if he lights it up, highly unlikely given the schedule. At that point, you either leave him in or admit you were wrong and bring in hoyer.

Not much to be gained by starting him right outta the gate.

gftChris

I wonder if the starting QB depends on the outcome of the Gordon case. If Gordon plays most of the year, Hoyer starts as more of a game manager, letting the run game, plus pro-bowl WR/TE do the damage. If Gordon's suspended, we need more playmaking ability from the QB, so Manziel gets the start.

Just a thought, and I'm not saying it's 100% dependent, but it might be a factor

choco

@everlastingxxx said:
Oh you assholes need to stop with the fag shit. You probably sucked a dick back in your day. People love watching Manziel play. Has nothing to with dick sucking, asshole fucking or anything else homo you fantasize about. Fuckin fairy.

I dunno...it'd be much easier to stop the homoerotic slam if you would quit hugging up on another mans nuts. You say "people" like it means everyone, whereas "people" in that context really means jff nuthuggers.

The rest of us just like watching football, regardless of who is playing.

Fag....with all due apologies to any actual homosexuals out there. Cits really not fair to compare them to the manzealots.

jockitch

@d-bone said:
Definitely a new level of weirdness with these JFF fags. To like a dude, a complete stranger, so much, that you can't see anything past his pretty face is beyond weird.

What does it say about you who likes a whole squad of complete stranger dudes overwhelmingly brought in from outside the area? That you like strange homosexual orgy?

miktoxic

@jockitch said:
What does it say about you who likes a whole squad of complete stranger dudes overwhelmingly brought in from outside the area? That you like strange homosexual orgy?

uh, wtf?

you got problems.

Tour2ma

@miktoxic said:
they were reporting on nfl network before the game last night that manziel is starting the next 2 preseason games. i didn't think much of it then, but now.......

lol... I think we have to face the fact that there is currently no other NFL scoop that approaches the level of a JM scoop.

Just another ring in under the big top...

@diehardbrownsfan said:
JFF had the better night. A kid right out of college ended up with a higher ranking then Hoyer with years in the NFL. After a few days practice.

The one thing you cannot do is rely on the stat sheet for your argument.

@everlastingxxx said:
Oh you assholes need to stop with the fag shit.

Agree, but it is what it is...

The Gipper

I think I am just going to pass on anything contained previously in this 10 page thread.

The two main things that I got from watching the game:

A. Our receivers need to learn how to catch.......(why has this been a problem for the Browns forever...no matter who we have at WR)

B. Pierre Desir needs to learn how to tackle.

Zombo

@everlastingxxx said:

So you think if Hoyer keeps over throwing receivers and only producing field goals, the job will be his automatically? I am not sure about that. I think he needs to start scoring points in the live games. As for practice he had 2 interceptions today. I think the competition is much closer. Pettine for the first time classified Manziel as an NFL starter.

I'm saying Johnny has to TAKE the job ... which he hasn't done yet.

Good opportunity if he starts this week.

Zombo

DieHardBrownsFan

All the Manziel whores need to remember. We old timers are Cleveland Browns fans. We support the team, no matter who the quarterback is. You whores only support JFF because you would follow him anywhere no matter what team he played for. So STFU. If JFF wins, I will support him totally. If he fucks up, then get ready for some heavy hate.

jockitch

@diehardbrownsfan said:
All the Manziel whores need to remember. We old timers are Cleveland Browns fans. We support the team, no matter who the quarterback is. You whores only support JFF because you would follow him anywhere no matter what team he played for. So STFU. If JFF wins, I will support him totally. If he fucks up, then get ready for some heavy hate.

Well WHOOP-DE-DOO!