Starting to think we should of drafted Watkins
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That's an amazing catch, but what's done is done. We have to move forward with what we have
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3 Years from now Gilbert will join Haden as one of the league's top-10 corners.
The Browns' defense will be a nasty top-5 squad.
A drug-free Gordon will be paired with a solid #2 WR, along with Baby Hawk and Pro-Bowler Jordan Cameron.
The running game will be one of the league's most consistent ground attacks.
Brian Hoyer will be the premiere game manager and lead the Browns to an AFC Championship.
Cleveland will own the AFC North.
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3 Years from now Gilbert will join Haden as one of the league's top-10 corners.
The Browns' defense will be a nasty top-5 squad.
A drug-free Gordon will be paired with a solid #2 WR, along with Baby Hawk and Pro-Bowler Jordan Cameron.
The running game will be one of the league's most consistent ground attacks.
Brian Hoyer will be the premiere game manager and lead the Browns to an AFC Championship.
Cleveland will own the AFC North.
3 Years from now Gilbert will join Haden as one of the league's top-10 corners.
The Browns' defense will be a nasty top-5 squad.
A drug-free Gordon will be paired with a solid #2 WR, along with Baby Hawk and Pro-Bowler Jordan Cameron.
The running game will be one of the league's most consistent ground attacks.
Brian Hoyer will be the premiere game manager and lead the Browns to an AFC Championship.
Cleveland will own the AFC North.
Please pray for this scenario, I really really hope so.
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We should have drafted a receiver - esp in the 3rd round. But as someone said, we had too many areas to address in one year.
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We should have drafted a receiver - esp in the 3rd round. But as someone said, we had too many areas to address in one year.
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I liked Benjamin and Lee
I liked Benjamin and Lee
Lee got bitched out and demoted by Bradley for showing no effort in the preaseason game.
I liked Cooks too.
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You're never just a WR away from winning, I wanted Watkins at first but went full circle.
We got a great trade out of Buffalo.
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You're never just a WR away from winning, I wanted Watkins at first but went full circle.
We got a great trade out of Buffalo.
You're never just a WR away from winning, I wanted Watkins at first but went full circle.
We got a great trade out of Buffalo.
If Gilbert is as good as advertised and our pick next year, then yes.
If Watkins goes on to have a hall of fame career, then no we didn't.
Time will tell.
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You're never just a WR away from winning, I wanted Watkins at first but went full circle.
We got a great trade out of Buffalo.
If Gilbert is as good as advertised and our pick next year, then yes.
If Watkins goes on to have a hall of fame career, then no we didn't.
Time will tell.
If Gilbert is as good as advertised and our pick next year, then yes.
If Watkins goes on to have a hall of fame career, then no we didn't.
Time will tell.
The trade was good. The use of the picks is the questionable part.
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If Gilbert is as good as advertised and our pick next year, then yes.
If Watkins goes on to have a hall of fame career, then no we didn't.
Time will tell.
The trade was good. The use of the picks is the questionable part.
The trade was good. The use of the picks is the questionable part.
The reason I don't know if the trade was good is because Gordon was going to be paramount in determining our QB situation and we all know Hoyer needed him. As well as Manziel, if they knew that Gordon was going to miss sometime they had NOTHING on the roster. I like Gilbert, don't get me wrong, great player but I think Watkins was a much bigger need and a talent that is ready from day 1
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I don't know, I think CB was as big a need, judging by everything we've learned about Pettine's defense. It's predicated on having two lockdown corners that allow the rest of the defense to go and play. In fact, I seem to remember a quote from him or Farmer talking about the biggest need on the team after QB, and the answer was CB.
I guess they thought it was easier to have a smothering D, plus a solid run game, and grind out some victories, than have a better O, and have to completely adjust the D-scheme.
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I just think Watkins is going to be a special play right off the go and Gilbert is going to take 2-3 years.
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Watkins is going to be great, but so is Gilbert IMO. Maybe he takes half a season to settle in - fine, we've got our lockdown corners for 5 years, and that position is much more important to our scheme than WR.
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Watkins is going to be great, but so is Gilbert IMO. Maybe he takes half a season to settle in - fine, we've got our lockdown corners for 5 years, and that position is much more important to our scheme than WR.
Watkins is going to be great, but so is Gilbert IMO. Maybe he takes half a season to settle in - fine, we've got our lockdown corners for 5 years, and that position is much more important to our scheme than WR.
True, it really just depends what happens with Gordon.
I know an elite receiver doesn't always carry a team to the Super Bowl, but it'd be nice.
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Watkins is going to be great, but so is Gilbert IMO. Maybe he takes half a season to settle in - fine, we've got our lockdown corners for 5 years, and that position is much more important to our scheme than WR.
True, it really just depends what happens with Gordon.
I know an elite receiver doesn't always carry a team to the Super Bowl, but it'd be nice.
True, it really just depends what happens with Gordon.
I know an elite receiver doesn't always carry a team to the Super Bowl, but it'd be nice.
If any receiver ever would, it'd be Megatron, but even with him the Lions have been pretty poor. Even with Stafford, their No1 overall pick. Even with Gordon last year, and his record breaking season, we weren't much because we couldn't run and didn't have a D. But on the other hand, a strong D and good run game got the hawks and 49ers a long way. All of our picks this year, outside of Mnaziel were about getting a solid D and a good run game - Gilbert, Kirksey, Desir on D, Bitonio & West on O.
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How do you already know there will be no superstar WRs next year? Or thatWatkins will be a superstar?
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I was as big a Watkins backer as anyone here. I think he is an exceptional prospect.
I also did not expect Khalil Mack to fall to us, and was hoping to hear his name.
That said, it took me about 1 second to like the trade with Buffalo.
Josh may lose some time this year, but I am 70-negative-test encouraged that he has a long-term future with us.
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You're never just a WR away from winning, I wanted Watkins at first but went full circle.
We got a great trade out of Buffalo.
If Gilbert is as good as advertised and our pick next year, then yes.
If Watkins goes on to have a hall of fame career, then no we didn't.
Time will tell.
If Gilbert is as good as advertised and our pick next year, then yes.
If Watkins goes on to have a hall of fame career, then no we didn't.
Time will tell.
If Gilbert has a hall of fame career and so does Watkins, we'll have won the trade.
If Gilbert is even a top 10 corner for the duration of his career and Watkins has a hall of fame career, we'll still have won the trade.
Anything less than that and we'll have lost the trade.
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the biggest dent in watkin's young career is going to be his QB.
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