They shot one of my homies, lets go get some free stuff!
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Woody can't let go of the fact that I believe that in numbers black Americans pressure each other to suck instead of succeed.
And furthermore Africa is also an ignorant terrible society that doesn't try to make the best of the land or resources and instead concentrate on warring and tribal concerns.
That's not saying all black people are the same that's just pointing out two instances of suckitude not glorifying whites. We know what happened with slavery and also with nazis. However history has shown all humans to have committed atrocities in equal measures. In the fervor to demonize whites for all the world's problems other races' atrocities are at best ignored and at worst completely forgotten. For instance the crusades are always brought up to demonize whites but does anyone remember that in that same period the mongols sacked Baghdad (1258) which was at that time the world's preeminent hub of culture and knowledge and ruthlessly slaughtered a million people in a week? No. They don't.
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Chris why don't all Londoners, many or most of them with the same racial background, speak with a cockney accent?
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The Crusades thing is meant to shed a negative light on Christians, not whites.
I also don't think anyone here is trying to demonize whites to make the other races look better.
I'm just going off of what I remember from that thread. And I remember that it was a Retarded, Retarded thread. You were basically being as racist as you could be but still cling to the "its just their culture" line.
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again, for the slow to learn, we have long ago agreed on the definition of racism which is as follows: the belief that one race is inherently superior or inferior because of the race itself. That has nothing to do with culture nor does it have anything to do with learned behavior.
another example if you are still puzzled. Wearing cowboy hats and boots and driving a pickup truck with country music blasting on the radio to a bar to watch NASCAR is an affectation of one particular subculture. It is not a natural tendency for Caucasians.
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So you're saying that isn't "white culture"?
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In a way it certainly is.So you're saying that isn't "white culture"?
Also I would not say that american black culture extends to Africa Cuba or Jamaica.
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Alright...
Well that original thread was such a mess that I'd rather not get into the whole thing again. Like I said, I just remever it being fucked up and Cysko saying some things I found very surprising/ignorant. Just my opinion though and I'd like to leave it at that.
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Quote those things you found to be ignorant. I've reiterated the same things here just phrased them differently. The problem lies not in what you perceive to be my racism because I don't believe blacks to be inherently inferior but in your inability to rationally criticize them due to your own desire to be "not racist" which in itself is a little gem of racism.
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Holding one race to a different and lower set of standards is purely racist.
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I must have missed the part where I did that... Or how I can't insult other races because I'm overcome by "white guilt"....
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The Crusades thing is meant to shed a negative light on Christians, not whites.
I also don't think anyone here is trying to demonize whites to make the other races look better.
I'm just going off of what I remember from that thread. And I remember that it was a Retarded, Retarded thread. You were basically being as racist as you could be but still cling to the "its just their culture" line.
The Crusades thing is meant to shed a negative light on Christians, not whites.
I also don't think anyone here is trying to demonize whites to make the other races look better.
I'm just going off of what I remember from that thread. And I remember that it was a Retarded, Retarded thread. You were basically being as racist as you could be but still cling to the "its just their culture" line.
Why the crusades is meant to shed a negative light in Christians is silly. The genises of the crusades in case anyone cares about historical fact was to protect Christian pilgrims in their pilgrimage to the Holy lands where they were routinely being slaughtered by muslims. After a while it just became a war, which is unfortunately quite common in the middle east. After the forces of guy of lusignan surrendered to saladin and were beheaded to the man they decided the holy lands sucked anyway and lost the taste for war there. But the crusades started with a pretty noble purpose.
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I am not insulting black people although criticism is often construed as insult when people can't face criticism, nor did I say you had white guilt although some of the things you say could really be construed that way.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Do you feel that there is peer pressure in the black community to succeed, get good grades, go to a good college and get a productive job?
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White guilt is drilled into them in college.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
In a way it certainly is.So you're saying that isn't "white culture"?
Also I would not say that american black culture extends to Africa Cuba or Jamaica.
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In a way it certainly is.
Also I would not say that american black culture extends to Africa Cuba or Jamaica.
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American black culture doesn't extend to Africa but it certainly had its genises in Africa. The Caribbean culture also has its roots in Africa although it has evolved differently than the culture of American blacks.
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I am not insulting black people although criticism is often construed as insult when people can't face criticism, nor did I say you had white guilt although some of the things you say could really be construed that way.
I am not insulting black people although criticism is often construed as insult when people can't face criticism, nor did I say you had white guilt although some of the things you say could really be construed that way.
You pretty much described white guilt in your post...
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White guilt is drilled into them in college.
White guilt is drilled into them in college.
Yes, it was the core curriculum in my very liberal engineering degree...
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I don't know about white guilt. I just think a lot of white people want to stop being called racist (it will NEVER happen) so they treat black people with special care to try and prove they're not racist and it comes off looking racist. In my mind the best thing to do is to treat black people with no special consideration at all and to be considerate to them without going out of your way to try and prove how "down" you are with their plight.
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My question to you woody, since I have no credibility having compared American black culture to African culture, is do you not believe that the descendants of Africans who were brought here as slaves retain some of their African culture? Do you think that as slaves they just abandoned the culture that they once had and assimilated completely with American culture or white culture as it were? That's ridiculous to anyone with a brain. The slaves preserved as much of their former way of life as was possible given their circumstances and they passed what they knew from generation to generation just as whites have. Just because our way of life has changed as Americans does not mean we abandoned the customs and culture of Europe from whence we came and neither have African Americans fully abandoned the customs and culture of Africa from whence they came. In fact they probably tried harder to preserve it since it was stolen from them.
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Give me an example or two of the African culture they've attempted to retain.
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