They shot one of my homies, lets go get some free stuff!
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My question to you woody, since I have no credibility having compared American black culture to African culture, is do you not believe that the descendants of Africans who were brought here as slaves retain some of their African culture? Do you think that as slaves they just abandoned the culture that they once had and assimilated completely with American culture or white culture as it were? That's ridiculous to anyone with a brain. The slaves preserved as much of their former way of life as was possible given their circumstances and they passed what they knew from generation to generation just as whites have. Just because our way of life has changed as Americans does not mean we abandoned the customs and culture of Europe from whence we came and neither have African Americans fully abandoned the customs and culture of Africa from whence they came. In fact they probably tried harder to preserve it since it was stolen from them.
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Give me an example or two of the African culture they've attempted to retain.
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Give me an example or two of the African culture they've attempted to retain.
Not trusting the white man?
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Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia that will answer that for you. Of course if you bothered to check you could find many many more articles about the root culture of Africa as it relates to the current black culture
African-American culture, also known asblack culture, in the United States refers to the cultural contributions of African Americans to the culture of the United States, either as part of or distinct from American culture. The distinct identity of African-American culture is rooted in the historical experience of the African-American people, including the Middle Passage. The culture is both distinct from and enormously influential to American culture as a whole.
African-American culture is rooted in Westand Central Africa. Understanding its identity within the culture of the United States it is, in the anthropological sense, conscious of its origins as largely a blend of West and Central African cultures. Although slavery greatly restricted the ability of African-Americans to practice their original cultural traditions, many practices, values and beliefs survived, and over time have modified and/or blended with European cultures and other cultures such as that of Native Americans. African-American identity was established during theslavery period, producing a dynamic culture that has had and continues to have a profound impact on American culture as a whole, as well as that of the broader world.[1]
Elaborate rituals and ceremonies were a significant part of African Americans' ancestral culture. Many West African societies traditionally believed that spirits dwelled in their surrounding nature. From this disposition, they treated their environment with mindful care. They also generally believed that a spiritual life source existed after death, and that ancestors in this spiritual realm could then mediate between the supreme creator and the living. Honor and prayer was displayed to these "ancient ones," the spirit of those past. West Africans also believed in spiritual possession.[2]
In the beginning of the eighteenth century Islam began to spread across North Africa; this shift in religion began displacing traditional African spiritual practices. The enslaved Africans brought this complex religious dynamic within their culture to America. This fusion of traditional African beliefs with Christianity provided a common place for those practicing religion in Africa and America.[2]
After emancipation, unique African-American traditions continued to flourish, as distinctive traditions or radical innovations in music, art, literature, religion, cuisine, and other fields. 20th-century sociologists, such as Gunnar Myrdal, believed that African Americans had lost most cultural ties with Africa.[3] But,anthropological field research by Melville Herskovits and others demonstrated that there has been a continuum of African traditions among Africans of the Diaspora.[4]The greatest influence of African cultural practices on European culture is found below the Mason-Dixon line in the American South.[5][6]
For many years African-American culture developed separately from European-American culture, both because of slavery and the persistence of racial discrimination in America, as well as African-American slave descendants' desire to create and maintain their own traditions. Today, African-American culture has become a significant part of American culture and yet, at the same time, remains a distinct cultural body
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So to argue that african culture has no bearing on the culture of modern black America is, well, just wrong. To argue that Europeon culture has no bearing on modern white America would he equally ridiculous
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I don't believe I ever claimed african and African American culture is identical just that one had its roots in the other.
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Now answer the question I asked you. Do you believe black communities put pressure on other blacks to succeed in the traditional fashions of Americans? To work hard, get good grades, go to a good school and attain a career? Because it seems to me, especially in the lower socioeconomic class that encompasses most black communities that pressure to do better generation by generation is not there or at least very poorly represented. Black folks that do are often labeled as acting white or uncle toms by their peers.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Now answer the question I asked you. Do you believe black communities put pressure on other blacks to succeed in the traditional fashions of Americans? To work hard, get good grades, go to a good school and attain a career? Because it seems to me, especially in the lower socioeconomic class that encompasses most black communities that pressure to do better generation by generation is not there or at least very poorly represented. Black folks that do are often labeled as acting white or uncle toms by their peers.
Now answer the question I asked you. Do you believe black communities put pressure on other blacks to succeed in the traditional fashions of Americans? To work hard, get good grades, go to a good school and attain a career? Because it seems to me, especially in the lower socioeconomic class that encompasses most black communities that pressure to do better generation by generation is not there or at least very poorly represented. Black folks that do are often labeled as acting white or uncle toms by their peers.
I am living through this saga right now. My wife is black. Her family is pretty much the Huxtables except for my sister in law. She got her masters in business but chooses to surround herself with hood rat fucking morons. They think she is acting white by getting an education. So to fit in she is lowering herself to their dipshit level (dates thugs etc.). The family tries to get her to use her fucking brain but all of her friends despise things like education and success. It is a lost cause. I imagine it is only a matter of time before she ends up in jail for housing a drug dealer.
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Now answer the question I asked you. Do you believe black communities put pressure on other blacks to succeed in the traditional fashions of Americans? To work hard, get good grades, go to a good school and attain a career? Because it seems to me, especially in the lower socioeconomic class that encompasses most black communities that pressure to do better generation by generation is not there or at least very poorly represented. Black folks that do are often labeled as acting white or uncle toms by their peers.
I am living through this saga right now. My wife is black. Her family is pretty much the Huxtables except for my sister in law. She got her masters in business but chooses to surround herself with hood rat fucking morons. They think she is acting white by getting an education. So to fit in she is lowering herself to their dipshit level (dates thugs etc.). The family tries to get her to use her fucking brain but all of her friends despise things like education and success. It is a lost cause. I imagine it is only a matter of time before she ends up in jail for housing a drug dealer.
I am living through this saga right now. My wife is black. Her family is pretty much the Huxtables except for my sister in law. She got her masters in business but chooses to surround herself with hood rat fucking morons. They think she is acting white by getting an education. So to fit in she is lowering herself to their dipshit level (dates thugs etc.). The family tries to get her to use her fucking brain but all of her friends despise things like education and success. It is a lost cause. I imagine it is only a matter of time before she ends up in jail for housing a drug dealer.
My sister in law is black,,,not an American black however. She was an immigrant from Ghana who came to this country LEGALLY, earned a masters degree and never once whined about racism or discrimmination. She in fact is embarrassed by the behaviour and attitudes of American blacks.
She also hates Obama.
Love this girl.
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Now answer the question I asked you. Do you believe black communities put pressure on other blacks to succeed in the traditional fashions of Americans? To work hard, get good grades, go to a good school and attain a career? Because it seems to me, especially in the lower socioeconomic class that encompasses most black communities that pressure to do better generation by generation is not there or at least very poorly represented. Black folks that do are often labeled as acting white or uncle toms by their peers.
Now answer the question I asked you. Do you believe black communities put pressure on other blacks to succeed in the traditional fashions of Americans? To work hard, get good grades, go to a good school and attain a career? Because it seems to me, especially in the lower socioeconomic class that encompasses most black communities that pressure to do better generation by generation is not there or at least very poorly represented. Black folks that do are often labeled as acting white or uncle toms by their peers.
Yes.
I attribute the attitude you're describing more to socioeconomic status than race.
I realize parts of African culture have been absorbed into Ameeican culture (like ever other culture). You were making the point about black culture having these negative side effects. Attributing the short comings of blacks in Africa and blackd in America to the same"culture". I don't see that as being true. There are many, many more factors at play than some culture linked only by skin color...
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I didn't attribute it to them being black that's your emotional reaction to it and you just made me talk like cal so good job. I merely pointed out its a more prevalent attitude in their culture and I specifically called out the lower socioeconomic class. Whether you like it or not they largely exist in that class due to a variety of factors. Prejudice is one although that excuse is waning quickly. Cultural attitude is another and that one is still going strong.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
It is actually refreshing to see someone fighting back against police in this country.
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Yes you hate the police and want anarchy. Good call. Anarchy wouldn't be terrible at all.
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Yes you hate the police and want anarchy. Good call. Anarchy wouldn't be terrible at all.
Yes you hate the police and want anarchy. Good call. Anarchy wouldn't be terrible at all.
I thought the Texas guy was the only anarchy guy.
Walter's hate of the cops is annoying. Too bad we couldn't work something out where he could go through life without any of their assistance
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I didn't attribute it to them being black that's your emotional reaction to it and you just made me talk like cal so good job. I merely pointed out its a more prevalent attitude in their culture and I specifically called out the lower socioeconomic class. Whether you like it or not they largely exist in that class due to a variety of factors. Prejudice is one although that excuse is waning quickly. Cultural attitude is another and that one is still going strong.
I didn't attribute it to them being black that's your emotional reaction to it and you just made me talk like cal so good job. I merely pointed out its a more prevalent attitude in their culture and I specifically called out the lower socioeconomic class. Whether you like it or not they largely exist in that class due to a variety of factors. Prejudice is one although that excuse is waning quickly. Cultural attitude is another and that one is still going strong.
You are starting to sound like Cal, which isn't a good sign for your argument. I'm just basing this off of that first thread. You said blacks here and in Africa underachieved because of "black culture". Where in reality both those cultures have very little similarities. The main similarity I'm seeing is skin color. Call that "emotional" if you want.
Like I said, I think more of what you're describing is just a certain socioeconomic culture. Something that all races can experience.
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Vietnamese boat people, escaped Vietnam with nothing. Most came here and succeeded, owning restaurants, working hard. Most legal immigrants succeed in the USA who come from all countries. Must be the culture.
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I didn't attribute it to them being black that's your emotional reaction to it and you just made me talk like cal so good job. I merely pointed out its a more prevalent attitude in their culture and I specifically called out the lower socioeconomic class. Whether you like it or not they largely exist in that class due to a variety of factors. Prejudice is one although that excuse is waning quickly. Cultural attitude is another and that one is still going strong.
You are starting to sound like Cal, which isn't a good sign for your argument. I'm just basing this off of that first thread. You said blacks here and in Africa underachieved because of "black culture". Where in reality both those cultures have very little similarities. The main similarity I'm seeing is skin color. Call that "emotional" if you want.
Like I said, I think more of what you're describing is just a certain socioeconomic culture. Something that all races can experience.
I'm quite sure you don't clearly remember the thread in question and you're basing this off of things you want to think I said. What you're remembering is your buddy heck doing everything in his power to spin statistics into racism. Doing a poor job as I remember.You are starting to sound like Cal, which isn't a good sign for your argument. I'm just basing this off of that first thread. You said blacks here and in Africa underachieved because of "black culture". Where in reality both those cultures have very little similarities. The main similarity I'm seeing is skin color. Call that "emotional" if you want.
Like I said, I think more of what you're describing is just a certain socioeconomic culture. Something that all races can experience.
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That's not what I'm remembering
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You're remembering being offended just as you feigned offense to this thread though I've said nothing particularly offensive. No scratch that. I called legacy a turd
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Well, Steve, Cysko and others have made you look like the woodypeckerhead, butt of this board, that you are.
I didn't even have to join in, your drivel makes it so easy.
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