Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I suppose you'd rather him roll bills in a public bathroom?
i'd rather see my young dumb QB with a rolled up dolla dolla bill y'all instead of him dressed up like a woman.
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I don't think there's any regret at this point.
Maybe disappointment in how the whole Team is playing so far.
Biggest issue I'm seeing on O right now is the timing looks off a bit.
Let's see what happens Saturday before we all move to the ledge . . . .
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No you fucking dummy, I just get the vibe they are regretting it.
flip flop, paddy whack give the dog a bone.
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Anybody watch Hard Knocks last night and see the near fight the Texans guy got into with the Atlanta sideline? "Fuck you" was the nicest thing said.
That goes on every single play in the NFL, flipping the bird is about the most polite thing conveyed on a football field during a game.flipping the bird is about the most polite thing conveyed on a football field during a game.
Like always, you're too dense to understand it, so I'm gonna type s l o w e r for you. Ready? Are you sure? Ok, here goes, now focus:
IT'S AGAINST THE RULES AND ALL PLAYERS KNOW IT
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I suppose you'd rather him roll bills in a public bathroom?
i'd rather see my young dumb QB with a rolled up dolla dolla bill y'all instead of him dressed up like a woman.
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I have to believe the biggest disappointment for the team so far is how bad #6 has looked. Manziel being young and playing poorly has to be expected somewhat, they started this summer saying he was the backup, and he remains the backup. However I have to imagine they had better things in mind from #6. Hasn't exactly inspired confidence out of anyone.
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This one is on Haslam as it was clearly his pick/decision. I wonder if he'll stand up and take accountability for it. Time will tell but should JF fail, then it's still probably a great business move, but will set the football team back at least a year, maybe two. Unlike other first round QB's that don't smoke the grade and find themselves as 2nd or 3rd string, JF will have polarized himself right out of the NFL.
Many football experts warned about JF, both as a person and a player. It's too bad the Browns didn't listen because right now, IMHO they regret the decision. However, as someone pointed out, it's way too early to make this call from a field perspective and hopefully he will mature quickly and realize that both are keys to his NFL career.
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Give it a break. It's two games into the PRE SEASON. Who really thought that JF would start the opener? Not any real Browns fan, well maybe one who left. There is really nothing surprising about this. Kid is right out of college, under a lot of pressure. He will be given time to settle down and learn. Panic this early is stupid.
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I think Pettine would rather have not had the distractions, but who could have been taken in the 1st round, competed and not have created the bulk of the current mess?
I do not think any of the Browns' brain trust are to the regret stage yet... but many have "found religion"... praying Hoyer does well enough for them to bring JM along. Just as they'd hoped all along.
I love seeing a word for the first time here...
LOL!
re·cantriˈkant/verbverb: recant; 3rd person present: recants; past tense: recanted; past participle: recanted; gerund or present participle: recantingsay that one no longer holds an opinion or belief, especially one considered heretical."heretics were burned if they would not recant"I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa Magna Cum Laude Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texian vocabulary.LOL!
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lol...
Just to be sure... it's just the first time I have seen that word used in a post on this forum...
Nobody thinks this is all jumping the gun quite a bit?
I'll agree with that.
Oh you fag...
You do realize that now you have to send a royalty check to mik...
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I have to believe the biggest disappointment for the team so far is how bad #6 has looked. Manziel being young and playing poorly has to be expected somewhat, they started this summer saying he was the backup, and he remains the backup. However I have to imagine they had better things in mind from #6. Hasn't exactly inspired confidence out of anyone.
I have to believe the biggest disappointment for the team so far is how bad #6 has looked. Manziel being young and playing poorly has to be expected somewhat, they started this summer saying he was the backup, and he remains the backup. However I have to imagine they had better things in mind from #6. Hasn't exactly inspired confidence out of anyone.
So much disapointment they decided to name him starter of week 1??? I have seen 6 dropped passes in two games by wrs. Hard for any qb to get in rythem with that shit going on. Not every throw in the NFL has to be on the money. And the ones that have been have been dropped. Thank god preseason is 4 games and not 2. Where all other qbs that have known they are starting have had these warm up games to fine tune their game and mechanics. Not the Browns they put alot of unneeded pressure on Hoyer to beat out someone who honestly didnt deserve a chance yet except in the medias eye. Hopefully Hoyer can relax and play his game and fine tune his mechanics. I have a feeling he will be just fine. The rest of the offense...well that might be a different story
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I suppose you'd rather him roll bills in a public bathroom?
i'd rather see my young dumb QB with a rolled up dolla dolla bill y'all instead of him dressed up like a woman.
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I have to believe the biggest disappointment for the team so far is how bad #6 has looked. Manziel being young and playing poorly has to be expected somewhat, they started this summer saying he was the backup, and he remains the backup. However I have to imagine they had better things in mind from #6. Hasn't exactly inspired confidence out of anyone.
So much disapointment they decided to name him starter of week 1??? I have seen 6 dropped passes in two games by wrs. Hard for any qb to get in rythem with that shit going on. Not every throw in the NFL has to be on the money. And the ones that have been have been dropped. Thank god preseason is 4 games and not 2. Where all other qbs that have known they are starting have had these warm up games to fine tune their game and mechanics. Not the Browns they put alot of unneeded pressure on Hoyer to beat out someone who honestly didnt deserve a chance yet except in the medias eye. Hopefully Hoyer can relax and play his game and fine tune his mechanics. I have a feeling he will be just fine. The rest of the offense...well that might be a different story
So much disapointment they decided to name him starter of week 1??? I have seen 6 dropped passes in two games by wrs. Hard for any qb to get in rythem with that shit going on. Not every throw in the NFL has to be on the money. And the ones that have been have been dropped. Thank god preseason is 4 games and not 2. Where all other qbs that have known they are starting have had these warm up games to fine tune their game and mechanics. Not the Browns they put alot of unneeded pressure on Hoyer to beat out someone who honestly didnt deserve a chance yet except in the medias eye. Hopefully Hoyer can relax and play his game and fine tune his mechanics. I have a feeling he will be just fine. The rest of the offense...well that might be a different story
Wait, you think the Manziel pressure is just going to go away now? You think once the regular season begins that the spotlight isn't going to intensify on this?
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So much disapointment they decided to name him starter of week 1??? I have seen 6 dropped passes in two games by wrs. Hard for any qb to get in rythem with that shit going on. Not every throw in the NFL has to be on the money. And the ones that have been have been dropped. Thank god preseason is 4 games and not 2. Where all other qbs that have known they are starting have had these warm up games to fine tune their game and mechanics. Not the Browns they put alot of unneeded pressure on Hoyer to beat out someone who honestly didnt deserve a chance yet except in the medias eye. Hopefully Hoyer can relax and play his game and fine tune his mechanics. I have a feeling he will be just fine. The rest of the offense...well that might be a different story
Wait, you think the Manziel pressure is just going to go away now? You think once the regular season begins that the spotlight isn't going to intensify on this?
Wait, you think the Manziel pressure is just going to go away now? You think once the regular season begins that the spotlight isn't going to intensify on this?
Not at all. There should always be compitition at every position. If what Pettine says is true that Hoyer has been in the lead to start from day 1 and that has never changed then by this farse of a compitition has done nothing but hinder our opening day starter from getting ready. Sharing reps with 1st teamers flipflopping in preseason games.
I get sick of the Browns doing things you never ever see other teams do. No other team woulda handled things this way.
"We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever. -
When we drafted the Finger, I instantly had the same reaction as I did when we traded up and took the Dancing Momba at #3 two years earlier............ Immediate disappointment, bordering on disgust.
So I'll go on record right here, right now and say............" I regret the Browns drafting the Finger."
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I don't think there's any regret at this point.
Maybe disappointment in how the whole Team is playing so far.
Biggest issue I'm seeing on O right now is the timing looks off a bit.
Let's see what happens Saturday before we all move to the ledge . . . .
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Wait, you think the Manziel pressure is just going to go away now? You think once the regular season begins that the spotlight isn't going to intensify on this?
Not at all. There should always be compitition at every position. If what Pettine says is true that Hoyer has been in the lead to start from day 1 and that has never changed then by this farse of a compitition has done nothing but hinder our opening day starter from getting ready. Sharing reps with 1st teamers flipflopping in preseason games.
I get sick of the Browns doing things you never ever see other teams do. No other team woulda handled things this way.
Not at all. There should always be compitition at every position. If what Pettine says is true that Hoyer has been in the lead to start from day 1 and that has never changed then by this farse of a compitition has done nothing but hinder our opening day starter from getting ready. Sharing reps with 1st teamers flipflopping in preseason games.
I get sick of the Browns doing things you never ever see other teams do. No other team woulda handled things this way.
yeah but what other way COULD they have handled it?
you thought the outcries from JF fans were crazy given the open competition, imagine if they would have said from day one JF is going to be the backup and that's that.
naming hoyer as the starter now is smart because there was a competition, manziel lost and let them focus totally with hoyer with the ones to try and get SOME type of offense set in stone before pittsburgh week one.
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So much disapointment they decided to name him starter of week 1??? I have seen 6 dropped passes in two games by wrs. Hard for any qb to get in rythem with that shit going on. Not every throw in the NFL has to be on the money. And the ones that have been have been dropped. Thank god preseason is 4 games and not 2. Where all other qbs that have known they are starting have had these warm up games to fine tune their game and mechanics. Not the Browns they put alot of unneeded pressure on Hoyer to beat out someone who honestly didnt deserve a chance yet except in the medias eye. Hopefully Hoyer can relax and play his game and fine tune his mechanics. I have a feeling he will be just fine. The rest of the offense...well that might be a different story
Wait, you think the Manziel pressure is just going to go away now? You think once the regular season begins that the spotlight isn't going to intensify on this?
Wait, you think the Manziel pressure is just going to go away now? You think once the regular season begins that the spotlight isn't going to intensify on this?
I don't think the media "spotlight" was the issue for Hoyer. I think the staff's mixed messages and the split reps were the issue.
With the decision made and the reps assigned accordingly I expect to see improvement... starting SAturday when Hoyer should see a solid half and at least a drive in the 3rd Qtr.
... there was a competition, manziel lost...
Not sensing that a major chunk of the "fandom" is agreeing with that...
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Wait, you think the Manziel pressure is just going to go away now? You think once the regular season begins that the spotlight isn't going to intensify on this?
I don't think the media "spotlight" was the issue for Hoyer. I think the staff's mixed messages and the split reps were the issue.
With the decision made and the reps assigned accordingly I expect to see improvement... starting SAturday when Hoyer should see a solid half and at least a drive in the 3rd Qtr.
... there was a competition, manziel lost...
Not sensing that a major chunk of the "fandom" is agreeing with that...
I don't think the media "spotlight" was the issue for Hoyer. I think the staff's mixed messages and the split reps were the issue.
With the decision made and the reps assigned accordingly I expect to see improvement... starting SAturday when Hoyer should see a solid half and at least a drive in the 3rd Qtr.
Not sensing that a major chunk of the "fandom" is agreeing with that...
I think this is most likely the heart of the problem.
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I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.
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Anyone else getting that Vibe from Haslam, Farmer, & Pettine?
I can guarantee knowing what they know now with all the off field stories, the abysmal Monday Night game, media frenzy, and all the hype they wouldn't of drafted him. I bet they would have stayed pat at 26 and taken Bridgewater or Carr. I don't know why, I'm just getting that vibe.
Anyone else getting that Vibe from Haslam, Farmer, & Pettine?
I can guarantee knowing what they know now with all the off field stories, the abysmal Monday Night game, media frenzy, and all the hype they wouldn't of drafted him. I bet they would have stayed pat at 26 and taken Bridgewater or Carr. I don't know why, I'm just getting that vibe.
i'm sure manziel regrets ever going to cleveland and that dysfunctional franchise called the browns.....
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