Hoyer named starting QB
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Nobody expects the pressure to disappear now do they?
I mean do you think #6 feels like his job is safe all year no matter what?
Do you plan to post this in every thread?
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Lol @ Browns fans. You guys are so short sighted. I'm not going anywhere. Have fun taking pictures next to my statue in 10 years.
Hey Johnny, kegger tonight!
Hey Johnny, kegger tonight!
I heard you flipped off Pettine when he told you Hoyer was starting.....
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Manziel is still struggling big time with the playbook. As above Esiason thinks Manziel "will get killed" if he starts against the Steelers. He couldn't handle the Redskins vanilla blitzes. Care to take a guess what he'd look like against Le Beau's disguised ones? Le Beau is like 13-1 against rookie quarterbacks. Start JFF, and you can make that 14-1.
It's the coaching staffs job to put these guys in the best position to win. If Manzeil is struggling with the playbook he is either not committed and will be a bum, or shannahan needs to pull back the reins.
The key to us winning is a strong running game and a stout defense. That offense doesn't need to be super complex.
All I'm saying is Hoyer looks horrible.
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Manziel is still struggling big time with the playbook. As above Esiason thinks Manziel "will get killed" if he starts against the Steelers. He couldn't handle the Redskins vanilla blitzes. Care to take a guess what he'd look like against Le Beau's disguised ones? Le Beau is like 13-1 against rookie quarterbacks. Start JFF, and you can make that 14-1.
It's the coaching staffs job to put these guys in the best position to win. If Manzeil is struggling with the playbook he is either not committed and will be a bum, or shannahan needs to pull back the reins.
The key to us winning is a strong running game and a stout defense. That offense doesn't need to be super complex.
All I'm saying is Hoyer looks horrible.
It's the coaching staffs job to put these guys in the best position to win. If Manzeil is struggling with the playbook he is either not committed and will be a bum, or shannahan needs to pull back the reins.
The key to us winning is a strong running game and a stout defense. That offense doesn't need to be super complex.
All I'm saying is Hoyer looks horrible.
No one would disagree that Hoyer doesn't look like he did last year. I'll be the first to admit he's been flat out lousy. Fifty something qbr.
If Shanahan is trying to fit Manziel to his complex playbook, JF will likely fail.
One point I hadn't thought of that came up on another forum- there's a possibility Hoyer, Manziel, and the Browns offense looked so horrendous against the Redskins #1 defense is____________ Well, they practiced against Shanahan's offensive scheme all last year, and they were ready for it.
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It's the coaching staffs job to put these guys in the best position to win. If Manzeil is struggling with the playbook he is either not committed and will be a bum, or shannahan needs to pull back the reins.
The key to us winning is a strong running game and a stout defense. That offense doesn't need to be super complex.
All I'm saying is Hoyer looks horrible.
No one would disagree that Hoyer doesn't look like he did last year. I'll be the first to admit he's been flat out lousy. Fifty something qbr.
If Shanahan is trying to fit Manziel to his complex playbook, JF will likely fail.
One point I hadn't thought of that came up on another forum- there's a possibility Hoyer, Manziel, and the Browns offense looked so horrendous against the Redskins #1 defense is____________ Well, they practiced against Shanahan's offensive scheme all last year, and they were ready for it.
No one would disagree that Hoyer doesn't look like he did last year. I'll be the first to admit he's been flat out lousy. Fifty something qbr.
If Shanahan is trying to fit Manziel to his complex playbook, JF will likely fail.
One point I hadn't thought of that came up on another forum- there's a possibility Hoyer, Manziel, and the Browns offense looked so horrendous against the Redskins #1 defense is____________ Well, they practiced against Shanahan's offensive scheme all last year, and they were ready for it.
Excellent point. Perhaps he should make some adjustments.
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Its PREASEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!
I kno rite.
Regardless of Hoyer looking bad in the first two pre-season games, he played limited time and first game-speed play since almost a year ago when he tore his ACL.
Honestly, the whole offense has looked terrible in the pre-season nearly across the board (nearly*). Manziel has not been an exception.
Gordon's also looked awful in the first two pre-season games, if anyone's noticed.
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what ever happened to the "you got to earn it" bullshit pettine was blowing up our ass..."3 and out" hoyer didn't earn anything but the bench....but the homey is starting.....pettine is an idiot with no experience with an offense...that's what's painfully obvious.....i guess if you grew up in cleveland, you've "earned it"....pathetic....
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what ever happened to the "you got to earn it" bullshit pettine was blowing up our ass..."3 and out" hoyer didn't earn anything but the bench....but the homey is starting.....pettine is an idiot with no experience with an offense...that's what's painfully obvious.....i guess if you grew up in cleveland, you've "earned it"....pathetic....
jayjay said:
what ever happened to the "you got to earn it" bullshit pettine was blowing up our ass..."3 and out" hoyer didn't earn anything but the bench....but the homey is starting.....pettine is an idiot with no experience with an offense...that's what's painfully obvious.....i guess if you grew up in cleveland, you've "earned it"....pathetic....
Go drink some drano.......
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what ever happened to the "you got to earn it" bullshit pettine was blowing up our ass..."3 and out" hoyer didn't earn anything but the bench....but the homey is starting.....pettine is an idiot with no experience with an offense...that's what's painfully obvious.....i guess if you grew up in cleveland, you've "earned it"....pathetic....
This is why I come back....I love the manzealot melts. Doesn't matter how terribly unprepared the Lil guy is....its everyone else's fault cause they didn't cowtow to scrambles.jayjay said:
what ever happened to the "you got to earn it" bullshit pettine was blowing up our ass..."3 and out" hoyer didn't earn anything but the bench....but the homey is starting.....pettine is an iidiot with no experience with an offense...that's what's painfully obvious.....i guess if you grew up in cleveland, you've "earned it"....pathetic....
So sad how many of you think all a good QB needs is athleticism. So detached from reality....
Carry on....I had a bad day and need some laughs...
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i guess going 3 and out all the time and scoring zero touchdowns is what the browns' management calls "earning it."
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what ever happened to the "you got to earn it" bullshit pettine was blowing up our ass..."3 and out" hoyer didn't earn anything but the bench....but the homey is starting.....pettine is an idiot with no experience with an offense...that's what's painfully obvious.....i guess if you grew up in cleveland, you've "earned it"....pathetic....
wait, you're a manziel fan right? why on earth do you want him starting this year? do you want to see ur guy get utterly killed? I like him too which is why I want him holding a fucking clipboard till December quite frankly. He's just getting around on the playbook...it'll be another few years before he has a handle on reading defense's. FFS. Yes Hoyer isn't gonna do a whole lot better but at least he can see what's coming and try to get his o line in the right place for it. Johnny will get blindsided if he starts now.
jayjay said:
what ever happened to the "you got to earn it" bullshit pettine was blowing up our ass..."3 and out" hoyer didn't earn anything but the bench....but the homey is starting.....pettine is an idiot with no experience with an offense...that's what's painfully obvious.....i guess if you grew up in cleveland, you've "earned it"....pathetic....
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i guess going 3 and out all the time and scoring zero touchdowns is what the browns' management calls "earning it."
jayjay said:
i guess going 3 and out all the time and scoring zero touchdowns is what the browns' management calls "earning it."
Showing up every day of the offseason, being on-time for practice, knowing the playbook backwards and acting like a leader is "earning it".
We all saw he can play at the NFL level last year. Still need to see that from the appropriately numbered #2.
Zombo
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wait, you're a manziel fan right? why on earth do you want him starting this year? do you want to see ur guy get utterly killed? I like him too which is why I want him holding a fucking clipboard till December quite frankly. He's just getting around on the playbook...it'll be another few years before he has a handle on reading defense's. FFS. Yes Hoyer isn't gonna do a whole lot better but at least he can see what's coming and try to get his o line in the right place for it. Johnny will get blindsided if he starts now.
jayjay said:
what ever happened to the "you got to earn it" bullshit pettine was blowing up our ass..."3 and out" hoyer didn't earn anything but the bench....but the homey is starting.....pettine is an idiot with no experience with an offense...that's what's painfully obvious.....i guess if you grew up in cleveland, you've "earned it"....pathetic....
wait, you're a manziel fan right? why on earth do you want him starting this year? do you want to see ur guy get utterly killed? I like him too which is why I want him holding a fucking clipboard till December quite frankly. He's just getting around on the playbook...it'll be another few years before he has a handle on reading defense's. FFS. Yes Hoyer isn't gonna do a whole lot better but at least he can see what's coming and try to get his o line in the right place for it. Johnny will get blindsided if he starts now.
the best move for the browns would be to start rex grossman, and continue to develop manziel and shaw....i'd cut home town hoyer....he's played like shit....
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wait, you're a manziel fan right? why on earth do you want him starting this year? do you want to see ur guy get utterly killed? I like him too which is why I want him holding a fucking clipboard till December quite frankly. He's just getting around on the playbook...it'll be another few years before he has a handle on reading defense's. FFS. Yes Hoyer isn't gonna do a whole lot better but at least he can see what's coming and try to get his o line in the right place for it. Johnny will get blindsided if he starts now.
the best move for the browns would be to start rex grossman, and continue to develop manziel and shaw....i'd cut home town hoyer....he's played like shit....
I actually had the same thoughts about Grossman. I would give him some reps in the remaining preseason games. Don't know about cutting Hoyer though....but for sure if Grossman come out and things run slick like oil cause he knows the system...well than it's hard to argue. Shaw from what I've seen is not a developmental talent.
jayjay said:
the best move for the browns would be to start rex grossman, and continue to develop manziel and shaw....i'd cut home town hoyer....he's played like shit....
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browns have another pathetic year with hoyer as quarterback....but homey says, "i know i suck on the field, but i really excel in the off-season....."
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browns have another pathetic year with hoyer as quarterback....but homey says, "i know i suck on the field, but i really excel in the off-season....."
jayjay said:
browns have another pathetic year with hoyer as quarterback....but homey says, "i know i suck on the field, but i really excel in the off-season....."
that remains to be seen. Hoyer is probably still the best option if our O line is giving the qb 1.7 seconds to throw the ball.
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in any case, Hoyer is the guy I'd rather have mentoring JF....not fucking Rex Grossman. Hoyer has at least tasted a pro offensive environment with New England.
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i guess going 3 and out all the time and scoring zero touchdowns is what the browns' management calls "earning it."
jayjay said:
i guess going 3 and out all the time and scoring zero touchdowns is what the browns' management calls "earning it."
I don't consider failure to grasp the playbook earning it either.
Its not the incumbents task to keep down the competition....its the competitions task to unseat the incumbent.
But continue your diatribe of excuses. Its quite amusing to see the vitriol of the sad manzealots.
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