Jonathan Paul Manziel
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jayjay said:
i'm sure manziel regrets ever going to cleveland and that dysfunctional franchise called the browns.....
Board admin, please help this guy out and add the B that he inadvertantly left of at the beginning of his screen name.
Board admin, please help this guy out and add the B that he inadvertently left of at the beginning of his screen name.
Zombo has already kicked a bunch of the JFF one trick ponies out.
At least the SC Shaw fans who showed up after Monday night are being realistic, and talking FOOTBALL, not how unbelievably great their man crush is.
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We are pretty happy with Bridgewater.

Good for you! Don't forget to lock the bathroom door when you rub one off!We are pretty happy with Bridgewater.

WSS
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only a moron like pettine would be upset over this.....i guess browns fans never played sports.....trash talking goes on from little league on up......maybe pettine saw this as an excuse to give homey hoyer the job.....he sure as hell didn't earn it......
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So eat some kimchee.
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So eat some kimchee.
So eat some kimchee.
Go suck on your mammies depleated sagging milk bags
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They are your wifes, full of kimchee and cum.
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No you fucking dummy, I just get the vibe they are regretting it.
What is a "vibe"? How do you get one of those? Anyway...
How the hell could a team regret drafting a player before he has even had a chance to play? Sure, maybe they didn't want all the off-field stuff but that will certainly be worth it if he develops into a franchise QB. I mean seriously... he has a 1-0 TD-INT ratio so far... Let's give the kid a shot before we start "regretting" having him.
Not to mention, the FO sold out tickets to every game within 30 minutes of opening sales... I'm pretty sure they're not regretting that...
What is a "vibe"? How do you get one of those? Anyway...
How the hell could a team regret drafting a player before he has even had a chance to play? Sure, maybe they didn't want all the off-field stuff but that will certainly be worth it if he develops into a franchise QB. I mean seriously... he has a 1-0 TD-INT ratio so far... Let's give the kid a shot before we start "regretting" having him.
Not to mention, the FO sold out tickets to every game within 30 minutes of opening sales... I'm pretty sure they're not regretting that...
Its a crappy car made by Pontiac.
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I have to believe the biggest disappointment for the team so far is how bad #6 has looked. Manziel being young and playing poorly has to be expected somewhat, they started this summer saying he was the backup, and he remains the backup. However I have to imagine they had better things in mind from #6. Hasn't exactly inspired confidence out of anyone.
so....its to be expected now? Funny how you and Walter changed your tunes when you realized how right us haters were.I have to believe the biggest disappointment for the team so far is how bad #6 has looked. Manziel being young and playing poorly has to be expected somewhat, they started this summer saying he was the backup, and he remains the backup. However I have to imagine they had better things in mind from #6. Hasn't exactly inspired confidence out of anyone.
We were jealous....homers....haters for not worshipping at the alter of scrambles.
Sad part is, an I told you so comes along with another struggling rookie QB. So please, why not harken back to Saturday when you said the Lil guy does everything better than hoyer?
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Who really cares? They picked him and we're stuck with him. I still hope he's a hall of famer. Hate his fans but hope he's a great one so long as he's wearing brown and orange.
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Ok, the whole badass comment l made, that was kinda stupid of me.
A few beers, l got a little worked up, and it somehow struck a chord with my inner 13 year old.
I deserve all the shit l'm given for it.
A few beers, l got a little worked up, and it somehow struck a chord with my inner 13 year old.
I deserve all the shit l'm given for it.
Do they make breathalyzers for PCs?
Lol welcome to the " I made a dumbass knee jerk post club". Virtually every member of the board belongs to it. Welcome
Now there's a T-shirt idea...
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This thread is a perfect example of the double standard. It's preseason. And it's football, not knitting class. There plenty of "fuck you's" flying around at any given moment on a football field, whether verbal or hand gesture, it's the same thing. In fact, it's no different than the "fucks" and "shits" that get bleeped out of most of today's pop music and daytime TV, or when you can clearly lip read the vulgarity that comes out of a lot of these "professionals" mouths. It doesn't really matter how it's communicated, a "fuck you" is a "fuck you", but what the real issue is here, is WHO it is coming from. When rules only apply to certain people, that is a double standard. Anyone else can get away with this without a peep from the media. The ONLY reason this is an issue, is because the networks KNOW that anything they put out on the air about JF will be watched by millions, so they find ANY reason to create DRAMA, because most of their viewers subconciously want to watch soap operas with their wives. Society has turned into a bunch of nancies, and the double standard is EXACTLY what is wrong with this country today. Personally, I like his brand of football and fiery competitiveness. If I wanted to watch a "classy" sport, I'd watch golf or tennis. Acting like football is this safe-haven for choir boys is ridiculous. And spare me the whole shtick about "he should know better" and "this proves he isn't ready". Yes, he should know better than to give the media any more ammo, but let's face it, if this were not covered by the media as a storyline, NOBODY would give a shit. It's not that people care that it happened, it's that it came from Johnny, AND it's that Browns fans are tired of being the punchline in an ongoing joke, and then you have the haters out there.
Before passing judgement on someone, look in the mirror and ask yourself if you have ever done the same before being a hypocrite and condemning this type of behavior. Not saying it is right, there is a time and place for it, but I wasn't offended by it either. I know none of you have been in JF's situation, but this is what I am talking about with the double standard. We all can sit on our internet soapbox and scold people from afar, anonymously, and act like we are sooo much better than that, but we all know that the truth is, it's mostly just jealousy. And low self-esteem. If you are embarrassed because a kid threw the bird at someone else, it's probably because your life is so lame that you have to live vicariously through a football team and when a player from your favorite team acts a certain way, it somehow reflects bad on you so you have to tear the kid down in self-preservation. THAT is LAME! I have been a fan of a losing team, but NEVER turned on the players, and NEVER felt inferior because my favorite football team wasn't winning, or when they did things that were totally classless. I know who I am, and don't need a football team to dictate my identity or validate my character as a man.For those of you saying no other QBs use that word in a football game, here are a few other prominent QB's that were listed above, giving a few fucks. It's not the bird, but the actual word that the gesture represents, which is just as bad if not worse. It's football, and if you are offended by that type of language or behavior, try a different sport. I hear ballet and figure skating needs a few fans.
Tom Brady gives a Fuck
Payton Manning gives a Fuck
Andrew Luck gives a Fuck
" rel="external nofollow">I know who I am, and don't need a football team to dictate my identity or validate my character as a man.
Yup... why would you need a football team when you have Johnny Fucking Football to validate your manhood...
Plenty of pro's have done this over the years and they have also received the same criticism..... This isnt some double standard created by intense media scrutiny, this was freaking Monday Night Football....in front of millions of people and cameras.....and he KNOWS they are watching, yet still acts the fool....
If I was at the biggest interview / audition of my life....and the whole world was watching.....and it was being televised world wide.....and my bosses and coaches and fans were all watching every step(and I knew it).......then I wouldnt do something stupid like that.....
Bottom line........immature is immature and quality stands up to scrutiny..(no matter how intense)
Really well put... really, really well put...
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I know who I am, and don't need a football team to dictate my identity or validate my character as a man.
Yup... why would you need a football team when you have Johnny Fucking Football to validate your manhood...
Plenty of pro's have done this over the years and they have also received the same criticism..... This isnt some double standard created by intense media scrutiny, this was freaking Monday Night Football....in front of millions of people and cameras.....and he KNOWS they are watching, yet still acts the fool....
If I was at the biggest interview / audition of my life....and the whole world was watching.....and it was being televised world wide.....and my bosses and coaches and fans were all watching every step(and I knew it).......then I wouldnt do something stupid like that.....
Bottom line........immature is immature and quality stands up to scrutiny..(no matter how intense)
Really well put... really, really well put...
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I'm not sure how to post a picture but I downloaded one from Facebook featuring my boy number 17 the great Brian Sipe flipping some asshole the bird.
Hopefully it was a Shittsburgh Squeeler or one of their dipshit fans.

WSS
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How can we be seen as a great fanbase if this is how much patience we have? Its almost as if were so hateful and shortsighted we put an extra layer of pressure on our QBs. Two fucking preseason games and our 21 year old QB is a wasted pick? This is like a new level of embarrassing.
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I have a feeling they love all the attention their getting because lets be honest, in the past years how many times did you hear about the browns on sports center. Now they have a player with top selling jersey and makin bank!! Love the manziel attention. Not the player
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I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.
I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.
Well, JFF, I'd suggest you learn some history about the Browns fanbase- because you were only 2 years old when Traitor Art pulled the rug out from under us. There was picketing of NFL headquarters, FAX machines and phone lines got jammed.
Our Name, our Team, our Colors. Never happened before.
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I think Pettine would rather have not had the distractions, but who could have been taken in the 1st round, competed and not have created the bulk of the current mess?
I do not think any of the Browns' brain trust are to the regret stage yet... but many have "found religion"... praying Hoyer does well enough for them to bring JM along. Just as they'd hoped all along.
I love seeing a word for the first time here...
LOL!
re·cantriˈkant/verbverb: recant; 3rd person present: recants; past tense: recanted; past participle: recanted; gerund or present participle: recantingsay that one no longer holds an opinion or belief, especially one considered heretical."heretics were burned if they would not recant"I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa Magna Cum Laude Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texian vocabulary.LOL!
re·cant
riˈkant/
verb
verb: recant; 3rd person present: recants; past tense: recanted; past participle: recanted; gerund or present participle: recanting
say that one no longer holds an opinion or belief, especially one considered heretical.
"heretics were burned if they would not recant"
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa Magna Cum Laude Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texian vocabulary.
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude, Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texan vocabulary.
There I fixed that for your wife. It might not be perfect (could put a comma after grad but that might be an Oxford comma situation and I'm not even going to touch the capitalization) but a major upgrade on your original work.
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LOL!
re·cant
riˈkant/
verb
verb: recant; 3rd person present: recants; past tense: recanted; past participle: recanted; gerund or present participle: recanting
say that one no longer holds an opinion or belief, especially one considered heretical.
"heretics were burned if they would not recant"
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa Magna Cum Laude Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texian vocabulary.
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude, Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texan vocabulary.
There I fixed that for your wife. It might not be perfect (could put a comma after grad but that might be an Oxford comma situation and I'm not even going to touch the capitalization) but a major upgrade on your original work.
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude, Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texan vocabulary.
There I fixed that for your wife. It might not be perfect (could put a comma after grad but that might be an Oxford comma situation and I'm not even going to touch the capitalization) but a major upgrade on your original work.
I think a few of you are most welcome here.
We don't mind opposing opinions- but please- Hoyer sucks, Manziel great, gets old around here, real fast- especially if that's the best you got.
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