Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Can we all please shut up about JF? Let him hold the clipboard this season. Honestly he should be #3 on the depth chart this year after Grossman who should come in if god forbid Hoyer goes down again. JF needs to learn NFL defense's. Once he does that than we can give him a realistic appraisal.
uhhhhh no. I agree with the shutting up part, but Grossman is well Gross man. I still expect Johnny to start at some point this year, unless Hoyer does what we can only dream of.....Win games and give us good QB play.Can we all please shut up about JF? Let him hold the clipboard this season. Honestly he should be #3 on the depth chart this year after Grossman who should come in if god forbid Hoyer goes down again. JF needs to learn NFL defense's. Once he does that than we can give him a realistic appraisal.
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uhhhhh no. I agree with the shutting up part, but Grossman is well Gross man. I still expect Johnny to start at some point this year, unless Hoyer does what we can only dream of.....Win games and give us good QB play.Can we all please shut up about JF? Let him hold the clipboard this season. Honestly he should be #3 on the depth chart this year after Grossman who should come in if god forbid Hoyer goes down again. JF needs to learn NFL defense's. Once he does that than we can give him a realistic appraisal.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
uhhhhh no. I agree with the shutting up part, but Grossman is well Gross man. I still expect Johnny to start at some point this year, unless Hoyer does what we can only dream of.....Win games and give us good QB play.
Well we can dream...
WSS
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manziel made his own bed. he wanted all the attention and he got it. say all you want about him living his life but if he were serious about going in and winning the QB job he would've done his homework and stayed closer to berea, sorta like hoyer did. no selfies? i guess you forget the pics of him on the plane, the picture of the playbook propped up in his hotel room like he was studying it...HA!how as the fan base of the org that drafted this guy going to shut up when the national media is still talking about the decision to start hoyer 3 days after it happened?
sure i think it was handled wrong. this QB competition shit never works out. last monday night's decision to change QBs every other serious was god awful. but don't scold us and tell us to shut up when this is what we live and breath. not to say i want people to pile on manziel but he is a player in a browns uniform and people will continue to talk about as they continue to talk about gordon or hoyer or.............. oh wait hoyer, joe thomas and haden don't do anything to embarrass the club. sorry, i forgot.
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Yes, I like it!!!....."please stop offering opinions on FF"....."but, before I practice what I preach, here's my opinion on JF."...oy
Ok, I'll play along......lets talk about how Gilbert, Bitonio, Kirksey and West came into camp and freaking owned it! F an A! Ray Farmer hit on 4 out of his first 5.....amazing reallY!......and we are only in camp, yet it is very apparent that these 4 belong!!!! And RF knows his stuff!
A few more drafts like this and it will be "sustained success"....
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How can we be seen as a great fanbase if this is how much patience we have? Its almost as if were so hateful and shortsighted we put an extra layer of pressure on our QBs. Two fucking preseason games and our 21 year old QB is a wasted pick? This is like a new level of embarrassing.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
How can we be seen as a great fanbase if this is how much patience we have? Its almost as if were so hateful and shortsighted we put an extra layer of pressure on our QBs. Two fucking preseason games and our 21 year old QB is a wasted pick? This is like a new level of embarrassing.
Voices of reason and sanity are not allowed here. Please come back when you are ready to discard a rookie QB who has never played 1 down in even a regular season game.
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Go look at attendance percentages and get back to me. Thats how I define it. Not by how many bandwagon fans youve accumulated that will dissipate after a losing season.@douche-nozzle said:
Well.....I guess you have to define "great fanbase". In Cleveland the Browns fans are known as great fans, in the rest of the US Browns fans are known as ummmmmm "loyal".
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@douche-nozzle said:
I didn't say spilled I said swilled......look it up in a dictionary. It's comical how you guys make this shit up! The only fights at Steeler games are started by dru nk ignorant Browns fans.
Dude ... the Steelers are playing right now ... and you are on a Browns Board debating spilled v. swilled.
Zombo
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Yes, I like it!!!....."please stop offering opinions on FF"....."but, before I practice what I preach, here's my opinion on JF."...oy
Ok, I'll play along......lets talk about how Gilbert, Bitonio, Kirksey and West came into camp and freaking owned it! F an A! Ray Farmer hit on 4 out of his first 5.....amazing reallY!......and we are only in camp, yet it is very apparent that these 4 belong!!!! And RF knows his stuff!
A few more drafts like this and it will be "sustained success"....
Yes, I like it!!!....."please stop offering opinions on FF"....."but, before I practice what I preach, here's my opinion on JF."...oy
Ok, I'll play along......lets talk about how Gilbert, Bitonio, Kirksey and West came into camp and freaking owned it! F an A! Ray Farmer hit on 4 out of his first 5.....amazing reallY!......and we are only in camp, yet it is very apparent that these 4 belong!!!! And RF knows his stuff!
A few more drafts like this and it will be "sustained success"....
Yeah brother. The rookies are looking good. So far so good with Farmer. JM was def an owner pick to get $$$ and attention. That plan definitely worked.
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@douche-nozzle said:
I didn't say spilled I said swilled......look it up in a dictionary. It's comical how you guys make this shit up! The only fights at Steeler games are started by dru nk ignorant Browns fans.
Dude ... the Steelers are playing right now ... and you are on a Browns Board debating spilled v. swilled.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Dude ... the Steelers are playing right now ... and you are on a Browns Board debating spilled v. swilled.
Zombo
Hahaha. No kidding. What a tool.
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OMFG. Literally it would be like regretting getting married before the honeymoon. If there was any chance that that's the case then the Browns are doomed for eternity.
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Thats what I have been saying. Way too much knee jerking. Let's see how this plays out
Too much knee jerking and you'll go blind.
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Well being a Steelers fan I just figured you misspelled it, and you had no idea what swilled meant, and then I wondered what kind of a douche would say swilled instead of drank. Pittsburgh fans are some of the most belligerent, redneck, dickheads Ive ever met so I think I'll pass on the invite....@douche-nozzle said:
I didn't say spilled I said swilled......look it up in a dictionary. It's comical how you guys make this shit up! The only fights at Steeler games are started by drunk ignorant Browns fans.
Do yourself a favor.....go to a Steeler game that is NOT a Browns game, don't get drunk, and watch the courtesy and good old fashioned respect between fans.
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Thats what I have been saying. Way too much knee jerking. Let's see how this plays out
Too much knee jerking and you'll go blind.
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Speaking of the Steelers, they need to get rid of that #7. Interception, multiple missed receivers, no points over two quarters even AFTER getting to spend unshared time with the 1's all pre-season. Browns logic says get rid of him. He could never take a team to a superbowl, let alone actually win one.
And how about that Nick Football running the no huddle all damn game. You can't score that way!
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uhhhhh no. I agree with the shutting up part, but Grossman is well Gross man. I still expect Johnny to start at some point this year, unless Hoyer does what we can only dream of.....Win games and give us good QB play.Can we all please shut up about JF? Let him hold the clipboard this season. Honestly he should be #3 on the depth chart this year after Grossman who should come in if god forbid Hoyer goes down again. JF needs to learn NFL defense's. Once he does that than we can give him a realistic appraisal.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
uhhhhh no. I agree with the shutting up part, but Grossman is well Gross man. I still expect Johnny to start at some point this year, unless Hoyer does what we can only dream of.....Win games and give us good QB play.
I'd rather Shaw play that Grossman- he's a lost cause.
@douche-nozzle said:
I didn't say spilled I said swilled......look it up in a dictionary. It's comical how you guys make this shit up! The only fights at Steeler games are started by drunk ignorant Browns fans.
Do yourself a favor.....go to a Steeler game that is NOT a Browns game, don't get drunk, and watch the courtesy and good old fashioned respect between fans.
Well, last Browns- Steelers game I attended in Cleveland- drunk & obnoxious STEELER fan started the fight in my section, and got thrown out.
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@douche-nozzle said:
I just find it funny that there are only altercations when the Browns come to town?
Rivalries are always more violent. I've never seen a fight break out in a soccer stadium *except* when local rivals are playing (bear in mind that local rivals over here means < 5 miles apart).
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Christ Almighty this is one of the saddest threads I've read. And I scanned through all six pages of it so I'm just as sad.
This is what I said before about not getting your hopes so high for JM. A couple crappy on-the-road preseason games and regrets of the FO drafting JM?
So he's not "Andrew Luck NFL ready"...so what. Hoyer was looking shaky too. Signs point to what Tour said - the competition to see who would be the season's starter was a distraction. Probably for the whole team, especially for the WRs as well as the QBs. Bad throws and dropped passes were the result.
We should be thankful Pettine didn't want to play it out until the 11th hour like Mangini.
Tomorrow is the first home preseason game and I'm damn excited to see it!
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Christ Almighty this is one of the saddest threads I've read. And I scanned through all six pages of it so I'm just as sad.
This is what I said before about not getting your hopes so high for JM. A couple crappy on-the-road preseason games and regrets of the FO drafting JM?
So he's not "Andrew Luck NFL ready"...so what. Hoyer was looking shaky too. Signs point to what Tour said - the competition to see who would be the season's starter was a distraction. Probably for the whole team, especially for the WRs as well as the QBs. Bad throws and dropped passes were the result.
We should be thankful Pettine didn't want to play it out until the 11th hour like Mangini.
Tomorrow is the first home preseason game and I'm damn excited to see it!
@douche-nozzle said:
... go start writing your comedy routine for "This week in the AFC North"
They are funny... and you should play this year.... I'll even keep your running totals for you.
Signs point to what Tour said - the competition to see who would be the season's starter was a distraction.
That guy really knows his shit...
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