Why was there ever a QB competition?
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Lol...if they'd have done what you revisionists propose and tagged scrambles as the backup from draft day forward, you'd have said they were keeping the better QB down.
20/20 and all....wow....y'all are sooooo smart. Maybe if the Lil guy didn't waste his weekends partying....which was said won't affect his performance.... He'd know enough of the playbook to challenge.
But alas....your hero let you down. Deal with it and quit deflecting blame.
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It was a "competition" only to please the fans. There was never any serious attempt to give JM reps or better than that insane 2 possession chaos. The plan all along was to bring JM along slowly.
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perhaps if johnny had been given time with the ones from the beginning he'd be more prepared....as it is, he needs more time....that said...hoyer is terrible....his performance on the field...(remember when that used to be the yardstick) was much worse than manziel's, particularly given he had all the time with the ones....if the browns really "wanted the best chance to win"...they would start grossman, who's done a hell of a lot more in the nfl than hometown hoyer, they'd continue to bring manziel and shaw along as quickly as possible...and they'd trade the homey boy.....
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Yeah, great....let's hold the whole class back till the slow kid gets it....right???....
The rest of the first team cant get any quality reps if the quarterback doesnt even know the plays, how to call em, the correct cadence or where his receivers are supposed to be......and that describes Johnny right now....and he knows it too....
It would be a foolish move to stunt the growth of a whole team, trying to learn a new offense, for the sake of one unprepared rookie.....
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Yeah, great....let's hold the whole class back till the slow kid gets it....right???....
The rest of the first team cant get any quality reps if the quarterback doesnt even know the plays, how to call em, the correct cadence or where his receivers are supposed to be......and that describes Johnny right now....and he knows it too....
It would be a foolish move to stunt the growth of a whole team, trying to learn a new offense, for the sake of one unprepared rookie.....
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perhaps if johnny had been given time with the ones from the beginning he'd be more prepared....as it is, he needs more time....that said...hoyer is terrible....his performance on the field...(remember when that used to be the yardstick) was much worse than manziel's, particularly given he had all the time with the ones....if the browns really "wanted the best chance to win"...they would start grossman, who's done a hell of a lot more in the nfl than hometown hoyer, they'd continue to bring manziel and shaw along as quickly as possible...and they'd trade the homey boy.....
Bullshit. Perhaps if Johnny had shown he was serious instead if playing jet set party boy he would have deserved more reps. You've seen him in a little per season game work and the coaches have seen him daily and are infinitely more qualified than us than us to decide who's best for the team. Lastly to insinuate they wouldn't start who they believe is the best chance to win is laughable. Winning is how they keep jobs.perhaps if johnny had been given time with the ones from the beginning he'd be more prepared....as it is, he needs more time....that said...hoyer is terrible....his performance on the field...(remember when that used to be the yardstick) was much worse than manziel's, particularly given he had all the time with the ones....if the browns really "wanted the best chance to win"...they would start grossman, who's done a hell of a lot more in the nfl than hometown hoyer, they'd continue to bring manziel and shaw along as quickly as possible...and they'd trade the homey boy.....
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I think this whole equal competition thing is blown out of proportion....
Really.... EVERY player on EVERY team is in a constant competition....And it's a pro league, not little league(where everyone is treated as special and given equal time)...on the day JFF was drafted the competition started and he was being graded....and not doing anything to make himself look the part....
Now....neither one has done anything to stand out on a positive note, but given what they have to work with, Hoyer has looked and performed more like a professional and thats all the coaches have to go by.....
Thre is so much more to grade, than what we are able to see through the media and a few practices, Obviously, we dont see 90% of what happens behinds the scenes or in the class room....but the coaches do. And I think they just dont have trust or confidence in what JFF has shown to date.....
Obviously, we dont see 90% of what happens behinds the scenes or in the class room...
I want to know where you see that 10%...

It was a "competition" only to please the fans. There was never any serious attempt to give JM reps or better than that insane 2 possession chaos. The plan all along was to bring JM along slowly.
I really hope that was not the case... price was too great for what turned out to be a net negative.
Yeah, great....let's hold the whole class back till the slow kid gets it....right???....
The rest of the first team cant get any quality reps if the quarterback doesnt even know the plays, how to call em, the correct cadence or where his receivers are supposed to be......and that describes Johnny right now....and he knows it too....
It would be a foolish move to stunt the growth of a whole team, trying to learn a new offense, for the sake of one unprepared rookie.....
Another seriously well-done post...
Hey a president from Texas invented "No Child Left Behind". Give the kid a break.

LOL... but around ten years before that we had the "Robin Hood ruling"...
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Bullshit. Perhaps if Johnny had shown he was serious instead if playing jet set party boy he would have deserved more reps. You've seen him in a little per season game work and the coaches have seen him daily and are infinitely more qualified than us than us to decide who's best for the team. Lastly to insinuate they wouldn't start who they believe is the best chance to win is laughable. Winning is how they keep jobs.perhaps if johnny had been given time with the ones from the beginning he'd be more prepared....as it is, he needs more time....that said...hoyer is terrible....his performance on the field...(remember when that used to be the yardstick) was much worse than manziel's, particularly given he had all the time with the ones....if the browns really "wanted the best chance to win"...they would start grossman, who's done a hell of a lot more in the nfl than hometown hoyer, they'd continue to bring manziel and shaw along as quickly as possible...and they'd trade the homey boy.....
Bullshit. Perhaps if Johnny had shown he was serious instead if playing jet set party boy he would have deserved more reps. You've seen him in a little per season game work and the coaches have seen him daily and are infinitely more qualified than us than us to decide who's best for the team. Lastly to insinuate they wouldn't start who they believe is the best chance to win is laughable. Winning is how they keep jobs.
so criticizing what manziel does in his time off, some how justifies starting hoyer, who's played worse than manziel in preseason games......is that how the browns make decisions.....??? if hoyer starts the entire year the browns will have another losing season.....in truth, i wouldn't start manziel now either.....shanahan's got him too confused with his idiotic playbook..shanahan's claim to fame is being fired from his first nfl job after 3 disastrous years in dc.....hardly encouraging......cleveland has 2 new quarterbacks...both of which can developed to be better than hoyer.....he's had 6 years....he ain't a franchise quarterback....homey or not....get over it.....start grossman and bring in either manziel or shaw when they're ready......quit rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic....hoyer isn't the answer...never was.....
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Hey a president from Texas invented "No Child Left Behind". Give the kid a break.

Johnson?
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Now we have Grossman slugs sliming in.......
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Hey a president from Texas invented "No Child Left Behind". Give the kid a break.

Johnson?
Johnson?
Bush Jr. LOL
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Johnson?
Bush Jr. LOL
Bush Jr. LOL
Doesn't like Connecticut claim him?
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