So Who ya got with 2 top ten picks in next years draft?
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Please explain. I am saying the R side needs vast improvement to help out whomever is QB. That is my opinion. I'd like to hear yours concerning who you would draft.
The offensive line is solid. It is all up to Hoyer now. If Gordon plays we should win the division.
Z
Zombo said:
The offensive line is solid. It is all up to Hoyer now. If Gordon plays we should win the division.
Z
Seriously? And I get berated for my homer shades.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Please explain. I am saying the R side needs vast improvement to help out whomever is QB. That is my opinion. I'd like to hear yours concerning who you would draft.
The offensive line is solid. It is all up to Hoyer now. If Gordon plays we should win the division.
Z
Zombo said:
The offensive line is solid. It is all up to Hoyer now. If Gordon plays we should win the division.
Z
Seriously? And I get berated for my homer shades.
V, I will side with you. Schwartz stunk big time last night. He's too damn slow to seal the edge on sweeps to the right, and he''s getting blown up in pass protection.
What's more of a concern is the Browns couldn't run anywhere against the Rams- left, right, or center.
Overall, it was a unanimous consensus of the guys I (sadly) attended that game with. It looked more like an offense in the first week of OTAs, as opposed to a team firing on all cylinders ready to take on the Steelers week one. Timing was horrendously off- and if you want to blame Pettine for the quarterback derby being the cause, be my guest.
Oh, and Soju- if the Browns play like that regular season- it's going to be easy- they're taking Winston with the #1 overall.
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Texas, we have addressed that already
Texas, we have addressed that already
That a joke Kosar? You call having M Schwartz as your starting RT "addressing" the line. Lol!
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Please explain. I am saying the R side needs vast improvement to help out whomever is QB. That is my opinion. I'd like to hear yours concerning who you would draft.
The offensive line is solid. It is all up to Hoyer now. If Gordon plays we should win the division.
Z
Zombo said:
The offensive line is solid. It is all up to Hoyer now. If Gordon plays we should win the division.
Z
No it's not solid, dumbass. You gonna suspend me for 2 more weeks for calling you out again Z?
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Zombo said:
The offensive line is solid. It is all up to Hoyer now. If Gordon plays we should win the division.
Z
No it's not solid, dumbass. You gonna suspend me for 2 more weeks for calling you out again Z?
No it's not solid, dumbass. You gonna suspend me for 2 more weeks for calling you out again Z?
This is probably the best offensive line we have had since 99.
It's preseason, you chicken littles are giving me a belly laugh this morning.
Zombo
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No it's not solid, dumbass. You gonna suspend me for 2 more weeks for calling you out again Z?
This is probably the best offensive line we have had since 99.
It's preseason, you chicken littles are giving me a belly laugh this morning.
Zombo
Zombo said:
This is probably the best offensive line we have had since 99.
It's preseason, you chicken littles are giving me a belly laugh this morning.
Zombo
Unless you are visually impaired or on 4 day PCP binge then what are you even talking about? And chicken littles, are you 9 years old?
Joe Thomas got man handled, MItchell Schwartz is a revolving door, and non stop penalties from everyone on the o-line.
It's a disaster.
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Zombo said:
This is probably the best offensive line we have had since 99.
It's preseason, you chicken littles are giving me a belly laugh this morning.
Zombo
Unless you are visually impaired or on 4 day PCP binge then what are you even talking about? And chicken littles, are you 9 years old?
Joe Thomas got man handled, MItchell Schwartz is a revolving door, and non stop penalties from everyone on the o-line.
It's a disaster.
Unless you are visually impaired or on 4 day PCP binge,
What are you talking about? And chicken littles, are you 9 years old?
Joe Thomas got handled, MItchell Schwartz is a revolving door, and non stop penalties from everyone on the o-line.
It's a disaster.
It's preseason. Doesn't count. New offense, new QBs to get used to, new WRs ... 1st team offense isn't in sync yet ... big deal ... it's preseason.
They'll have it together in two weeks. A lot of talent on that team, including the line.
Zombo
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Ced Ogbuehi or Stanford's Peat as first choice next year. Both if at all possible. Schwartz is either a doorman or a doormat. He seems to excel at either position.
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I'm partially with Zombo. I'm not ready to panic yet, save that for the regular season. However, the oline is troubling. We knew walking into this game as fans that the Rams have the best Dline in football.
Joe Thomas gave up a sack. You win some battles, you lose some. Quinn is the best pass rusher in the NFL right now and JT bounced back to keep him in check. The hold on Thomas I"m not willing to blame him. West can't cut that ball
back across the formation and expect to do it with no consequences. Overall JT graded out as one of the best tackles in football last year, until otherwise I hold him in that esteem. Bitonio had some rookie moments but he was willing to get nasty in the trenches. I still think he's going to be a fine pro and I love his attitude. Schwartz might have to move to guard. In a league where teams have not one but two good edge rushers, the kid is just flat out having trouble with them. Very curious because he had such a strong second half of his rookie year that made us believe we had two bookend tackles.
I do honestly believe the defense will bounce back. I don't think people realize what its like having your top two CB's not active to play.
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This morning, my hand is shaking and hovering over the panic button.
have a drink.
it stops the shakes so you don't have to worry about missing the button.
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3 of the top 4 CBs were out, so Im not worried about the DBs yet, but Gilbert better learn some lessons from this game. Gilkey and Schwartz are awful, and we have nobody even remotely intriguing behind them. To make this offense tick we need athleticism on the line. We have none on the right side. The QB issues are real, Hoyer is NOT the next Kurt Warner, and we dont have the personnel on the line to play Manziel and let him be creative.
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3 of the top 4 CBs were out, so Im not worried about the DBs yet, but Gilbert better learn some lessons from this game. Gilkey and Schwartz are awful, and we have nobody even remotely intriguing behind them. To make this offense tick we need athleticism on the line. We have none on the right side. The QB issues are real, Hoyer is NOT the next Kurt Warner, and we dont have the personnel on the line to play Manziel and let him be creative.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
3 of the top 4 CBs were out, so Im not worried about the DBs yet, but Gilbert better learn some lessons from this game. Gilkey and Schwartz are awful, and we have nobody even remotely intriguing behind them. To make this offense tick we need athleticism on the line. We have none on the right side. The QB issues are real, Hoyer is NOT the next Kurt Warner, and we dont have the personnel on the line to play Manziel and let him be creative.
No doubt it was rough having Haden and Skrine out. And I agree about Gilbert- he's got to learn shadowing a wr isn't good enough- make a play on the ball. A lot of the Rams big plays were Gilbert's fault.
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Zombo said:
The offensive line is solid. It is all up to Hoyer now. If Gordon plays we should win the division.
Z
Seriously? And I get berated for my homer shades.
Seriously? And I get berated for my homer shades.
That is because this is not your home. It is his home and he can say what he wants here....but you are at worst a trespasser, and at best a guest who has been invited to stay in the dog house.
And you know what we do to yapping dogs? Neuter them.
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Ced Ogbuehi or Stanford's Peat as first choice next year. Both if at all possible. Schwartz is either a doorman or a doormat. He seems to excel at either position.
Ced Ogbuehi or Stanford's Peat as first choice next year. Both if at all possible. Schwartz is either a doorman or a doormat. He seems to excel at either position.
The Schwartz has started out slow the last two seasons, but then has put on pretty rock solid performance for most of the year.
Not sure why that is.
That said, I would not discount taking either of the guys you mention. There is almost no NFL team that couldn't "upgrade" any position on the field.
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