Schwartz..

TopDawg31

@mudfly said:

Looks like we just signed 2 OL's.....and one is a RG.....so, no matter how confident the Browns said they were.....not really...

Here it is:

BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns on Monday were awarded OL Karim Barton and OL Donald Hawkins via waivers from Philadelphia. General Manager Ray Farmer made the announcement.

Barton is a 6-3, 313-pound rookie out of Morgan State. Originally signed as an undrafted free agent by Philadelphia on May 10, Barton played as a reserve in all three of the Eagles’ preseason games. After transferring from Canyons Junior College, Barton started nine of 11 games at right tackle for Morgan State. Originally from Jamaica, Barton graduated from Verdugo Hills High School in Los Angeles.

Hawkins is 6-4, 310-pound rookie out of Texas. Originally signed as an undrafted free agent by Philadelphia on May 10, Hawkins played as a reserve in all three of the Eagles’ preseason games. After transferring from Northwest Community College, Hawkins started 24 of his 25 games at Texas. Born in Memphis, Tenn., Hawkins graduated from Rosa Fort High School in Tunica, Miss.

cast offs from another team, probably will be part of our final cuts also.

LogicIsForSquares

Philly has a pretty good o-line. So they could be castoffs who could compete for starting spots here. Who knows.

timpiker

Schwartz is a PC of shit

miktoxic

@tour2ma said:
Always pictured you as a full glass kind of guy...

man, i can't sneak anything past you.

thenew23

@texasag1969 said:

Go back and watch his feet on every play. He has no quickness to them whatsoever. He's more suited to guard. Right now we don't have the solution at RT.

I get it... you've never watched the Browns until the last 3 preseason games. I hope you don't mind if I value your opinion about as highly as I value used toilet paper...

He has started rough and finished well the past 2 seasons. Hopefully his rough start is out of his system. It's not easy to upgrade Schwartz, unless you want to use a 1st round pick on a RT...

Westside Steve

@thenew23 said:

I get it... you've never watched the Browns until the last 3 preseason games. I hope you don't mind if I value your opinion about as highly as I value used toilet paper...

He has started rough and finished well the past 2 seasons. Hopefully his rough start is out of his system. It's not easy to upgrade Schwartz, unless you want to use a 1st round pick on a RT...

On the other hand we do tend to change either ownership, front office, coaching, quarterback, offensive scheme, and defense every few months so continuity isn't really all that its cracked up to be.

WSS

miktoxic

@thenew23 said:
unless you want to use a 1st round pick on a RT...

sure, why not?

people used to scoff at taking OL in the first round. now they're taken in the top 5. granted those are LTs but each position on the OL is important. just to have a LT and a C mean dick. i remember when corners and receivers were 'not' supposed to be taken in the first as well. i'm not saying use a top ten pick on a RT but if the best all around tackle than can play either side is available and our QB situation has been figured out and WRs are squared away what's the next biggest concern? fuggin right tackle. (unless of course schwartz 'finishes' strong again this year...........what the last 3 games?)

i say you got a hole, plug it.

TexasAg1969

@thenew23 said:

I get it... you've never watched the Browns until the last 3 preseason games. I hope you don't mind if I value your opinion about as highly as I value used toilet paper...

He has started rough and finished well the past 2 seasons. Hopefully his rough start is out of his system. It's not easy to upgrade Schwartz, unless you want to use a 1st round pick on a RT...

Actually that is exactly what I would do. If someone is going to cost 2-3 games a year because he starts slow, then trade him off AFTER upgrading with a 1st rounder. No real contender can afford slow starters with slow feet.

Manzier

@texasag1969 said:

Actually that is exactly what I would do. If someone is going to cost 2-3 games a year because he starts slow, then trade him off AFTER upgrading with a 1st rounder. No real contender can afford slow starters with slow feet.

It looks like a couple of huge assumptions there: Schwartz will cost us 2-3 games if he starts slowly??? No one could predict something like that. So thats ridiculous assumption #1. And drafting a new RG in the first round will be an upgrade??? Really? Says who? Could be a total bust. So thats ridiculous assumption #2.

Schwartz WAS a high draft choice, has started from day one and is only starting his third season now. O lines take time to gel. O linemen take time to develop. Give him a chance to grow. I think he'll be fine.

miktoxic

@manzier said:

It looks like a couple of huge assumptions there: Schwartz will cost us 2-3 games if he starts slowly??? No one could predict something like that. So thats ridiculous assumption #1. And drafting a new RG in the first round will be an upgrade??? Really? Says who? Could be a total bust. So thats ridiculous assumption #2.

Schwartz WAS a high draft choice, has started from day one and is only starting his third season now. O lines take time to gel. O linemen take time to develop. Give him a chance to grow. I think he'll be fine.

you would draft a RG to come in and compete, not just trade schwartz away because as browns fans we all know how shitty some draft picks can turn out.

cvcanedy

Bucs just got mankins from NE, so maybe no incognito. Worth a visit?

Manzier

Mankins? Hahahaha. That is one messed up name.

miktoxic

gotta lay the runway with some mankins.

Manzier

@miktoxic said:
gotta lay the runway with some mankins.

I think thats what the Redskins were yelling when JFF had his finger moment - hey, little mankins maziel.!

Or it could be what you wipe your mouth with whilst eating a manwich. Not sure.

miktoxic

or what manzealots wipe their mouth with after......

cvcanedy

@cvcanedy said:
Bucs just got mankins from NE, so maybe no incognito. Worth a visit?

So anyway

miktoxic

the attached thumbnail of you with your legs shaved wearing stockings and heels says it all.

those are steeler colors you turncoat queen.

TexasAg1969

@manzier said:
It looks like a couple of huge assumptions there: Schwartz will cost us 2-3 games if he starts slowly??? No one could predict something like that. So thats ridiculous assumption #1. And drafting a new RG in the first round will be an upgrade??? Really? Says who? Could be a total bust. So thats ridiculous assumption #

1. The Browns are going to be in tight games most of the season. 2 big drive killing sacks over the RT will lose a game. If he does that in 2-3 games then it is easily predictable that they lose those 2-3.

2. I want a 1st round draft of a RT, not a RG. This team has too many guards masquerading as OT's.

DieHardBrownsFan

VesnaKociper said:

Douche Nozzle's retort to Zomblow was a CLASSIC.............

If preseason is for mistakes, then this has been a successful preseason.

I don't know how the Browns do it, but regardless of the faces and names changing, the draft results are always the same.

Our top picks blow, and we celebrate getting a decent non-skilled 'decent player".

Schwartz is the classic lardass lineman. We need to draft MORE linemen with our high picks. I think the Browns should forever more ONLY draft offensive linemen.

Manziel is a bust, Pettine is a bust. Same old crap... slow releasing QB, stinky WRs and dink and dump play calling.

Horrible.

TexasAg1969

Well this seems an appropriate place for the Deadspin article on Browns. Have a chuckle.

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2014-cleveland-browns-1626915245?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

I'll add this one on the squealers too.

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2014-pittsburgh-steelers-1625613194