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  • A Alendor

    exaclty, give the guy a break, he did great the year before, 1 bad year doesn't deserve a trade. especially when its something so easy to correct.

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    @alendor said:

    exaclty, give the guy a break, he did great the year before, 1 bad year doesn't deserve a trade. especially when its something so easy to correct.

    Is it really so easy to correct? Its not like we can stick some superglue on his hands, here. If the man dosn't care about catching balls, he's not gonna make an effort to make sure he dosn't drop them.

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      @alendor said:

      exaclty, give the guy a break, he did great the year before, 1 bad year doesn't deserve a trade. especially when its something so easy to correct.

      Is it really so easy to correct? Its not like we can stick some superglue on his hands, here. If the man dosn't care about catching balls, he's not gonna make an effort to make sure he dosn't drop them.

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      @deadwombat said:

      Is it really so easy to correct? Its not like we can stick some superglue on his hands, here. If the man dosn't care about catching balls, he's not gonna make an effort to make sure he dosn't drop them.

      I honestly don't believe it was a matter of caring.

      This is the simplest analogy I can come up with:

      If every time you put your hand on the stove you get burned...you are going to reflexively pull it back.

      If every time BE went for a catch..DA missed him or led him into a big hit...he is going to gator arm it and look to avoid the hit.

      Eventually, that psyche becomes ingrained and the result is 2008 for BE.

      Give him a off-season with a QB that is more accurate and doesn't get him killed...and I bet the dropsies go away.

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        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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        I would trade him.

        I don't care what he says....he wants out....and his value is good right now.

        He is in his contract year....if we don't trade him we have 2 choices...transition him for a low tender number and watch him get scooped up and not get any value for him, or franchise him and have nobody touch him, and then we are overpaying for his services.

        The Giants have a later first rounder and need a big receiver since Plax is done in NY...ship him to the Giants for that 1st rounder.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          R Roy.E.Munson wrote on last edited by
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          Shut up....... BE isn't going any where!

          It is just Assinign to want to get rid of him!

          He just had a bad year... you are acting like the NFL isn't a business.... he will go off this year!

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            R Roy.E.Munson wrote on last edited by
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            Why the xxxx would anyone want Plaxico Burres???!!!??

            BE has not seen anywhere near the trouble as that Retard ...

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              @deadwombat said:

              Is it really so easy to correct? Its not like we can stick some superglue on his hands, here. If the man dosn't care about catching balls, he's not gonna make an effort to make sure he dosn't drop them.

              I honestly don't believe it was a matter of caring.

              This is the simplest analogy I can come up with:

              If every time you put your hand on the stove you get burned...you are going to reflexively pull it back.

              If every time BE went for a catch..DA missed him or led him into a big hit...he is going to gator arm it and look to avoid the hit.

              Eventually, that psyche becomes ingrained and the result is 2008 for BE.

              Give him a off-season with a QB that is more accurate and doesn't get him killed...and I bet the dropsies go away.

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              @wpb-dawg-fan said:

              I honestly don't believe it was a matter of caring.

              This is the simplest analogy I can come up with:

              If every time you put your hand on the stove you get burned...you are going to reflexively pull it back.

              If every time BE went for a catch..DA missed him or led him into a big hit...he is going to gator arm it and look to avoid the hit.

              Eventually, that psyche becomes ingrained and the result is 2008 for BE.

              Give him a off-season with a QB that is more accurate and doesn't get him killed...and I bet the dropsies go away.

              Look, no one really knows why he dropped so many passes, but there were more than a few that hit him in the chest and he has all his fingers on. And while most players would be pissed or angry at themselves, Braylon acted like nothing happened every time. You could see it in his body language that he just didn't seem to care.

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                @wpb-dawg-fan said:

                I honestly don't believe it was a matter of caring.

                This is the simplest analogy I can come up with:

                If every time you put your hand on the stove you get burned...you are going to reflexively pull it back.

                If every time BE went for a catch..DA missed him or led him into a big hit...he is going to gator arm it and look to avoid the hit.

                Eventually, that psyche becomes ingrained and the result is 2008 for BE.

                Give him a off-season with a QB that is more accurate and doesn't get him killed...and I bet the dropsies go away.

                Look, no one really knows why he dropped so many passes, but there were more than a few that hit him in the chest and he has all his fingers on. And while most players would be pissed or angry at themselves, Braylon acted like nothing happened every time. You could see it in his body language that he just didn't seem to care.

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                R Roy.E.Munson wrote on last edited by
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                @deadwombat said:

                Look, no one really knows why he dropped so many passes, but there were more than a few that hit him in the chest and he has all his fingers on. And while most players would be pissed or angry at themselves, Braylon acted like nothing happened every time. You could see it in his body language that he just didn't seem to care.

                What kind of body language would you have liked to see...

                He responded exactly like i would have... move on... dont let anyone see that it botherd you.....

                But he would get your sympathy if he layed on the field and cryed and then publicly apolagized?

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                  @wpb-dawg-fan said:

                  I honestly don't believe it was a matter of caring.

                  This is the simplest analogy I can come up with:

                  If every time you put your hand on the stove you get burned...you are going to reflexively pull it back.

                  If every time BE went for a catch..DA missed him or led him into a big hit...he is going to gator arm it and look to avoid the hit.

                  Eventually, that psyche becomes ingrained and the result is 2008 for BE.

                  Give him a off-season with a QB that is more accurate and doesn't get him killed...and I bet the dropsies go away.

                  Look, no one really knows why he dropped so many passes, but there were more than a few that hit him in the chest and he has all his fingers on. And while most players would be pissed or angry at themselves, Braylon acted like nothing happened every time. You could see it in his body language that he just didn't seem to care.

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                  W WPB Dawg Fan wrote on last edited by
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                  @deadwombat said:

                  Look, no one really knows why he dropped so many passes, but there were more than a few that hit him in the chest and he has all his fingers on. And while most players would be pissed or angry at themselves, Braylon acted like nothing happened every time. You could see it in his body language that he just didn't seem to care.

                  The man was targeted 138 times and had 55 catches. That is a 39.9 completion/target rate.

                  Even if he caught EVERY dropped pass he would only have 71 receptions and a 51.4% completion/target rate. So, even if BE was PERFECT...DA still barely broke a 50% completion rate when throwing to him.

                  Name me one other TOP RECEIVER that has to put up with that kind of ineptitude.

                  As a point of fact...Brandon Marshall was second in NUMBER of passes NOT CAUGHT (77 to BE's 83) and had 12 drops and he had 183 Targets...for a completion rate of (104/183) 56.8%...and without his drops 63.4%.

                  Get the hint?

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                    Isnt this his contract year? He'll show up to play this year, then trade him.

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                      BrownsFan17B BrownsFan17 wrote on last edited by
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                      The question for me is - would another team be willing to give up their first round pick for him? I believe so. So what about this scenario...

                      If Crabtree is available at 5, we could pick him and then offer BE to another team hurting for a receiver for their #1. We could then use that pick to get the LB that we need so desperately need but might not be worth a top 5 pick.

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                        BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                        I would rather have Edwards and trade Winslow.

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                          The question for me is - would another team be willing to give up their first round pick for him? I believe so. So what about this scenario...

                          If Crabtree is available at 5, we could pick him and then offer BE to another team hurting for a receiver for their #1. We could then use that pick to get the LB that we need so desperately need but might not be worth a top 5 pick.

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                          Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                          @brownsfan17 said:

                          The question for me is - would another team be willing to give up their first round pick for him? I believe so. So what about this scenario...

                          If Crabtree is available at 5, we could pick him and then offer BE to another team hurting for a receiver for their #1. We could then use that pick to get the LB that we need so desperately need but might not be worth a top 5 pick.

                          That's the move, because this is his contract year and he will walk next year and you will get nothing for him. And please don't blame Da for him short arming balls, he dropped a whole lot of balls in college and the FO knew it when they drafted him.

                          It's about his "ME" first attitude and giant ego. Remember, it will never be his fault because there will always be an excuse.

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                            Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger wrote on last edited by
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                            I like the idea of trading Edwards. Even if we cant get Crabtree we could trade back and get Maclin(which I think will be the better WR) That will give us another pick or 2 to help with the numerous holes on this team. Like someone said earlier hes a FA after this season and we arent going to the SB next year so find some core people to build around thru the draft. thats just my opinion

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                              @brownsfan17 said:

                              The question for me is - would another team be willing to give up their first round pick for him? I believe so. So what about this scenario...

                              If Crabtree is available at 5, we could pick him and then offer BE to another team hurting for a receiver for their #1. We could then use that pick to get the LB that we need so desperately need but might not be worth a top 5 pick.

                              That's the move, because this is his contract year and he will walk next year and you will get nothing for him. And please don't blame Da for him short arming balls, he dropped a whole lot of balls in college and the FO knew it when they drafted him.

                              It's about his "ME" first attitude and giant ego. Remember, it will never be his fault because there will always be an excuse.

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                              Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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                              @ytownbrownsbacker said:

                              That's the move, because this is his contract year and he will walk next year and you will get nothing for him. And please don't blame Da for him short arming balls, he dropped a whole lot of balls in college and the FO knew it when they drafted him.

                              It's about his "ME" first attitude and giant ego. Remember, it will never be his fault because there will always be an excuse.

                              My favorite excuse last year was after the game in which he had all the second half drops. He said due to DA's inability to get him the ball in the first half when he was open so often, it caused him to lose concetration in the second half.

                              Nothing like throwing a teammate under the bus Braylon!

                              After that I knew this guy has some serious issues.

                              I think he really, really needs to go for the same reasons Ytown mentioned. I do realize the Browns can't just dump him without someone to replace him. But they need to work their hardest at rid of him..

                              Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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                                Isnt this his contract year? He'll show up to play this year, then trade him.

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                                AdaM said:

                                Isnt this his contract year? He'll show up to play this year, then trade him.

                                If you want to trade him after this year, we would have to slap the franchise tag on him in 2010 in order to trade him.

                                'Roy.E.Munson said:

                                He just had a bad year...

                                Here we go again with this "one bad year" bullcrap. He's had only one good year, the rest are all bad.

                                'DeadWombat said:

                                Look, no one really knows why he dropped so many passes...

                                I'm sure there's more than one reason why, but the predominant reason is that he is hearing footsteps. I've been calling him Braylon "Chicken Shit" Edwards for years. It's not hard to see that his eyes are on incoming defenders moreso than on incoming passes. I don't know how to explain those wide open bombs he drops with nobody closing in on him except to say that he has stone hands.

                                I say trade him!

                                -Al

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                                  Seeing that Mangini is a "character" guy and "musts" guy, it would not suprise me if he waited 'til the Browns were on the board to see if Crabtree was still there,drafted him,then turned right around and traded Edwards to someone willing to give up a mid-level to low 1st round pick.I have heard people say that Crabtree is a definite top 10 pick so in my books that is a (must have guy). Since Edwards is in a contract year that means we don't have to resign him,we would get another pick to address another position of need,and be ridding the locker room of a huge ego (Character). It would be a win,win,win situation for Mangenius.

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                                    Shut up....... BE isn't going any where!

                                    It is just Assinign to want to get rid of him!

                                    He just had a bad year... you are acting like the NFL isn't a business.... he will go off this year!

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                                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                                    @roy.e.munson said:

                                    Shut up....... BE isn't going any where!

                                    It is just Assinign to want to get rid of him!

                                    He just had a bad year... you are acting like the NFL isn't a business.... he will go off this year!

                                    It isn't asinine to want to trade him....and really, I am acting like the NFL is a business.

                                    Trade him now while we can or be stuck with him with a franchise tag...which is to much money for that guy.

                                    But you are right....he will have a good year since he has something to play for.....himself being his contract year.

                                    Edwards is a Me player.

                                    Here is a recent interview

                                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                      I dont like BE's attitude or his take on the fans what the sam hell does "the drive" have to do with him?

                                      I dont harbor any bad feelings for BE other than he sucked last year and didnt seem to even care..i dont care that he came from michigan all i care about is how he plays on sunday and his dellusional and mental cop out of blaming the fans shows he doesnt accept responsibility for the way he plays my thoughts are he lacks the work ethic and mental toughness to make a mankok team or at least to stay in cleveland long...regardless of what BE says its obvious he is disgruntled about being a brown and is slowly becoming a cancer and we dont need that..

                                      We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                                        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                                        That's why I posted what I did...he is a me first player.....just like Leon.

                                        Braby needs to go. I have a feeling Mangini isn't going to like Edwards once he spends more than a few hours around him.

                                        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                          I believe that if Braylon had been born in Cleveland or Columbus and played for Ohio State he would get a free pass on every ball he dropped. He does need to improve his concentration, there is no question. He can be one of the top 10 receivers but he isn't there now

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                                          Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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                                          @dawgtracker said:

                                          I believe that if Braylon had been born in Cleveland or Columbus and played for Ohio State he would get a free pass on every ball he dropped. He does need to improve his concentration, there is no question. He can be one of the top 10 receivers but he isn't there now

                                          Your 100% wrong I don't give a crap where ANYONE plays college. The Browns are first in my book. Everyone else is second. I think he is the only person who cares he played for Michigan. HE HAS TO CATCH THE BALL AND STOP MAKING EXCUSES LIKE A BITCH, PERIOD.

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