Gordon Suspended for a Year
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Doesn't matter if it's wearing a blue shirt. The rule says not to do it, yet you keep doing it or at least put yourself at risk.
Yes, I think it should be legal, and yes I totally hate this, but it's very simple. Stop breaking rules.
You obviously haven't been staying abreast of what actually went down. No way he actually smoked weed with a 16 and a 13 on his test (those are barely secondhand results). And if the tester arbitrarily labeled his A and B sample differently, he wouldn't be in this position at all. The testing procedure is ridiculous.
You obviously haven't been staying abreast of what actually went down. No way he actually smoked weed with a 16 and a 13 on his test (those are barely secondhand results). And if the tester arbitrarily labeled his A and B sample differently, he wouldn't be in this position at all. The testing procedure is ridiculous.
Reread my post and note the line "or at least put himself at risk"
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This will be my last post in this thread, as I am over Puffy. He knew the rules. It is NOT up for discussion whether or not "weed is bad". It's against his employer's rules. PERIOD. If he doesn't like his employer's rules, then he is free to look for employment elsewhere. Now that that is out of the way ( yea, right.... How many people will still post after this saying, "It's only pot, and RR beat his wife and only got 2 games".... LOTS)
He is selfish and only thought of himself, and now he's gonna pay the price........ As will his teammates, coaches and fans. If you can't do the time, don't load the bowl.
This will be my last post in this thread, as I am over Puffy. He knew the rules. It is NOT up for discussion whether or not "weed is bad". It's against his employer's rules. PERIOD. If he doesn't like his employer's rules, then he is free to look for employment elsewhere. Now that that is out of the way ( yea, right.... How many people will still post after this saying, "It's only pot, and RR beat his wife and only got 2 games".... LOTS)
He is selfish and only thought of himself, and now he's gonna pay the price........ As will his teammates, coaches and fans. If you can't do the time, don't load the bowl.
I agree with these sentiments, sans the selfish comments (neither you or I know the situation so easy on the judgement there) but the employment law violates the state law in which Gordon works in...so Gordon could pursue the legality of the ruling...
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I know I'm wasting my breath. But it's not for weed smoking. It's for repeated violations of a clear rule.Wife beating = 2 games. Weed smoking = 1 year. Way to go Rodger.
I know I'm wasting my breath. But it's not for weed smoking. It's for repeated violations of a clear rule.
And that rule is that it is illegal to have controlled substances in your blood while employed by the NFL.
A guy passes 70 drug tests over the last year and one inconclusive test is enough for a year's banishment. It is ridiculous.
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I know I'm wasting my breath. But it's not for weed smoking. It's for repeated violations of a clear rule.
And that rule is that it is illegal to have controlled substances in your blood while employed by the NFL.
A guy passes 70 drug tests over the last year and one inconclusive test is enough for a year's banishment. It is ridiculous.
Getting a DUI doesn't help. Why the incessant defense?And that rule is that it is illegal to have controlled substances in your blood while employed by the NFL.
A guy passes 70 drug tests over the last year and one inconclusive test is enough for a year's banishment. It is ridiculous.
I think the punishment for weed is way too harsh, but until it's changed this is going to happen. I do hope this case changes the faulty testing procedures, but it'll be too late for josh
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Anyone have a link to contact the NFL?
Anyone have a link to contact the NFL?
Best I could find...
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I just sent the following
Just received the news that Josh Gordon's appeal has been denied. I am extremely disappointed in this decision for two reasons.
First, I am disappointed that Commissioner Goodell did not meet with Josh. To have publically acknowledge that face-to-face meetings played a role in reducing the suspensions doled out in the past yet not meet with a player facing a year-long suspension is unconscionable.
Second, I am disappointed that the NFL is choosing to dig in its heels on an issue where public sentiment change lags only the gay rights issue.
The NFL's decision in this case is simply wrongheaded. I hope that paths/ actions are available to Mr. Gordon to right the wrong the league office has done him this day.
Sincerely,
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My other take on this is that the Browns didn't bow to NFL pressure and throw JF in there for opening day. JF sells, everybody wants to see how he's gonna do. Regardless of whether he was ready or not the NFL wanted him in there. The move to start Hoyer cost the NFL in some way so they're saying FUCK YOU Cleveland. Had you started JF we'd have given you Gordon after a couple games. Ok now I'm taking the tin foil hat off....but something just strikes me as off with this whole deal and I can't help but wonder if us drafting JF had something to do with this.
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I just sent the following
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Just received the news that Josh Gordon's appeal has been denied. I am extremely disappointed in this decision for two reasons.
First, I am disappointed that Commissioner Goodell did not meet with Josh. To have publically acknowledge that face-to-face meetings played a role in reducing the suspensions doled out in the past yet not meet with a player facing a year-long suspension is unconscionable.
Second, I am disappointed that the NFL is choosing to dig in its heels on an issue where public sentiment change lags only the gay rights issue.
The NFL's decision in this case is simply wrongheaded. I hope that paths/ actions are available to Mr. Gordon to right the wrong the league office has done him this day.
Sincerely,nicely done.
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My other take on this is that the Browns didn't bow to NFL pressure and throw JF in there for opening day. JF sells, everybody wants to see how he's gonna do. Regardless of whether he was ready or not the NFL wanted him in there. The move to start Hoyer cost the NFL in some way so they're saying FUCK YOU Cleveland. Had you started JF we'd have given you Gordon after a couple games. Ok now I'm taking the tin foil hat off....but something just strikes me as off with this whole deal and I can't help but wonder if us drafting JF had something to do with this.
Ok now I'm taking the tin foil hat off....but something just strikes me as off with this whole deal and I can't help but wonder if us drafting JF had something to do with this.
really???.......
How about JG just got the same punishment every other player has gotten for the same offenses. Precedents HAVE been set and, now, followed. Everyone wanted the NFL to handle Josh "differently" and then when they didn't, it becomes a conspiracy?
Thats it....Josh got suspended because the Browns wont start Manziel...NOW I've heard it all.....!
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WWBJD?
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The league is going to use their drug policy to open up a collective bargaining session now instead of waiting till 2021. Drug policy/ higher cap for 18 regular season games. They had to go balls out on the punishment with a drug issue involved to get the union to go for it and have indicated they could go for 2 more games.
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So if he is found guilty of the DUI, what does the league policy call for since he is already on a year suspension for drug policy violation?
Do they have a death penalty that precludes ever playing again for JG?
The Browns took a chance on a talented player who already had the same problems while at Baylor. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and move on.
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Ok now I'm taking the tin foil hat off....but something just strikes me as off with this whole deal and I can't help but wonder if us drafting JF had something to do with this.
really???.......
How about JG just got the same punishment every other player has gotten for the same offenses. Precedents HAVE been set and, now, followed. Everyone wanted the NFL to handle Josh "differently" and then when they didn't, it becomes a conspiracy?
Thats it....Josh got suspended because the Browns wont start Manziel...NOW I've heard it all.....!
like I said it was the tinfoil hat. My issue was not with the suspension though dude...you need to read that carefully again. It was the absolutely unprecedented way in which they handled it. Knowing full well that waiting and then dropping the 365 suspension was not just royally fucking him but the whole Browns organization. Had we known Gordon was gonna go down for 365 the browns could have moved him or made some other drastic WR moves. At least we'd have played other people during the preseason...we would told someone hey, you know you're gonna the 1 right? Something just smells funny with how they've handled it. This suspension could have come down months ago dude wtf?
really???.......
How about JG just got the same punishment every other player has gotten for the same offenses. Precedents HAVE been set and, now, followed. Everyone wanted the NFL to handle Josh "differently" and then when they didn't, it becomes a conspiracy?
Thats it....Josh got suspended because the Browns wont start Manziel...NOW I've heard it all.....!
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Getting a DUI doesn't help. Why the incessant defense?And that rule is that it is illegal to have controlled substances in your blood while employed by the NFL.
A guy passes 70 drug tests over the last year and one inconclusive test is enough for a year's banishment. It is ridiculous.
I think the punishment for weed is way too harsh, but until it's changed this is going to happen. I do hope this case changes the faulty testing procedures, but it'll be too late for josh
Getting a DUI doesn't help. Why the incessant defense?
I think the punishment for weed is way too harsh, but until it's changed this is going to happen. I do hope this case changes the faulty testing procedures, but it'll be too late for josh
I'm not defending him. I'm saying the testing procedure, as well as the appeals process, is a complete joke.
Some people are making it out to be that Gordon has failed every test ever given, when that isn't the case. He kept his nose clean, he passed 70 random drug tests, and one borderline test was enough to ban him. I'm sure that in every normal test, there's an acceptable margin of error and that Gordon's "positive" test fell within that margin, yet the NFL is disregarding that information because he's a repeat offender.
The NFL is a joke, plain and simple. Roger Goodell is a fucking waste of space.
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should have hired barry scheck as part of his defense team. he could've cross examined the test giver like he did dennis fung at the oj trial.
courttv anyone?
and cochran (if that piece of shit were still alive)...... "if he didn't smoke it, you can't revoke it."
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The league is going to use their drug policy to open up a collective bargaining session now instead of waiting till 2021. Drug policy/ higher cap for 18 regular season games. They had to go balls out on the punishment with a drug issue involved to get the union to go for it and have indicated they could go for 2 more games.
The league is going to use their drug policy to open up a collective bargaining session now instead of waiting till 2021. Drug policy/ higher cap for 18 regular season games. They had to go balls out on the punishment with a drug issue involved to get the union to go for it and have indicated they could go for 2 more games.
I'd say they will use it to leverage HGH testing over 18 games-
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That's very frustrating. Very exaggerated punishment, it's the kind of suspension that doesn't help the person who supposedly needed help (Gordon), it's not gonna correct his misbehavior, it can end up getting worse.
Goodell can't stay a week without doing some shit.
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I wonder if Gordon is going to sue? He has a good case, but does he want to be in the media that much?
The other question is "Will it even help this team that much?"
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Wife beating = 2 games. Weed smoking = 1 year. Way to go Rodger.
Wife beating = 2 games. Weed smoking = 1 year. Way to go Rodger.
I totally get this perspective. However it was Gordon's third offense. He had to go supplemental because of stuff like this and that's why he grabbed one year. Hell after he picked up his third he then went out and grabbed a DUI. The year suspension could save his career, the ball is in his court.
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