Gordon Suspended for a Year
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@everlastingxxx said:
Imagine the truckload of weed he is going to smoke sitting at home all season.
Not a surprise. Id cut him if i was the Browns. As talent as he is, just too much risk and trouble.
Farmer needs to get his head out of his ass. Go find another WR dumbass.
Right now we're not "risking" anything. We don't have to pay him for a year.
You're telling me that a guy who has gotten more receiving yards in his first 2 years than every other WR in HISTORY except 2 isn't worth the risk? Ya... with the likes of Weeden, Campbell, and Hoyer throwing to him... being suspended 2 games his 2nd year... and the ONLY 2 WRs EVER to have more yards in their first 2 years were Jerry Rice and Randy Moss...
Hmmmm... Risk vs Reward... Risk = another suspension. Reward = Hall of fame talent
I think he is worth the risk... and I'm nowhere near cutting him yet if I'm the Browns...
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Before I go on an uneducated rant, what if any precedent does Gordon have for a lawsuit against the NFL? I'm the first to admit the kid is a knucklehead who has made a lot of questionable decisions. But this whole process from start to finish reeks of incompetance and flat out questionable ethics from the NFL league office. I'd be absolutely incensed right now if I was the Browns organization over this whole fiasco.
Before I go on an uneducated rant, what if any precedent does Gordon have for a lawsuit against the NFL? I'm the first to admit the kid is a knucklehead who has made a lot of questionable decisions. But this whole process from start to finish reeks of incompetance and flat out questionable ethics from the NFL league office. I'd be absolutely incensed right now if I was the Browns organization over this whole fiasco.
Simply put... Ohio Labor Law says his test (if the reported "levels" are accurate) was negative b/c of a "below level" screen on the "B" bottle, but the NFL SA Policy says it's positive b/c of "any presence" of THC in the "B" Bottle. According to Federal Law, the Ohio Labor Law outweighs the NFL SA Policy...
He could file for a Restraining Order, which would halt the suspension, while the legal process plays out...
If that were the case, and he won, he would still face a possible suspension for the DUI; however, that is part of the Personal Conduct Policy and has nothing to do with the SA Policy, and that case was postponed until late November.
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if aldon smith who was DRUNK at 6:30 am within a school district gets his DUI dropped to a laughable sentence, gordon who barely (again.....what a dumb fuck) blew over the legal limit should be skating out of NC with roses cupped in his arms like brian boitano.
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Wife beating = 2 games. Weed smoking = 1 year. Way to go Rodger.
Wife beating = 2 games. Weed smoking = 1 year. Way to go Rodger.
/thread
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Before I go on an uneducated rant, what if any precedent does Gordon have for a lawsuit against the NFL? I'm the first to admit the kid is a knucklehead who has made a lot of questionable decisions. But this whole process from start to finish reeks of incompetance and flat out questionable ethics from the NFL league office. I'd be absolutely incensed right now if I was the Browns organization over this whole fiasco.
Before I go on an uneducated rant, what if any precedent does Gordon have for a lawsuit against the NFL? I'm the first to admit the kid is a knucklehead who has made a lot of questionable decisions. But this whole process from start to finish reeks of incompetance and flat out questionable ethics from the NFL league office. I'd be absolutely incensed right now if I was the Browns organization over this whole fiasco.
The precedent would be Kevin and Pat Williams (Vikings) - where the succesffuly got a temporary restraining order against the NFL that allowed them to play for 2 years...it would have prevented them from getting a suspension (they eventually did get suspended) because they tried to argue that the NFL could not ban substances that were not illegal by the state's law...Gordon's suit would be different in that it would argue that the NFL's limits to a drug can not be more stringent than the State's drug limits (if Gordon worked for Shewin Williams and got drug testes, the levels he tested postive for would not trigger a negative test)
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#Browns Josh Gordon's team is considering its legal options right now.
Granted, it's Mary Kay, but we haven't seen the end of this yet.
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actually that is a good point. If his levels wouldn't trigger a positive in any kind of private company test or state/federal employee test....than why suspend him at all? If those levels really could be from just walking through a room than even if they still suspend him why all this fucking wait? why fuck the organization over? I don't get it.
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I think the Browns have a major grievance here. They can't necessarily argue against the suspension, but only in the way it was handled. People have been asking for a decision for weeks and months now. There has to be a pretty compelling reason for them to have waited for this long other than well we were waiting to see if Johnny Manziel would be a day one starter.
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This doesn't surprise me at all. NFL hates Cleveland.
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Ray Rice is having a good laugh about this. Maybe it will save his old lady from her Wednesday beating.
Ray Rice is having a good laugh about this. Maybe it will save his old lady from her Wednesday beating.
Ray just smacked his ole lady once up side the head for the fuck of it.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I think the Browns have a major grievance here. They can't necessarily argue against the suspension, but only in the way it was handled. People have been asking for a decision for weeks and months now. There has to be a pretty compelling reason for them to have waited for this long other than well we were waiting to see if Johnny Manziel would be a day one starter.
I think the Browns have a major grievance here. They can't necessarily argue against the suspension, but only in the way it was handled. People have been asking for a decision for weeks and months now. There has to be a pretty compelling reason for them to have waited for this long other than well we were waiting to see if Johnny Manziel would be a day one starter.
There is no grievance. This is all with the union agreement. Its over. Gordon's career is probably over.
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Thank to you two guys, that's really helpful. I think the big picture for me and most level headed Browns fans is this. No one is denying the kid has made stupid decisions along the way, and no matter what one's personal opinion on marijuana is Gordon should have known to dodge the shit with a 100ft pole. But there's a lot of good precedent here that the NFL's system is fundamentally flawed, and this case was handled extremely innappropriately from the start till now. I really hope Gordon takes a stand and at least keeps the conversation going.
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even parcels pompous ass would not have fired josh Gordon after his performance last year
you nailed it New23. talent like this isn't A yearly NFL commodity. will be awhile before a player makes a JG impact
goodell won't be visiting Cleveland anytime soon. he'd be lucky to make it back to ny with his cunt still attached.
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This will be my last post in this thread, as I am over Puffy. He knew the rules. It is NOT up for discussion whether or not "weed is bad". It's against his employer's rules. PERIOD. If he doesn't like his employer's rules, then he is free to look for employment elsewhere. Now that that is out of the way ( yea, right.... How many people will still post after this saying, "It's only pot, and RR beat his wife and only got 2 games".... LOTS)
He is selfish and only thought of himself, and now he's gonna pay the price........ As will his teammates, coaches and fans. If you can't do the time, don't load the bowl.
This will be my last post in this thread, as I am over Puffy. He knew the rules. It is NOT up for discussion whether or not "weed is bad". It's against his employer's rules. PERIOD. If he doesn't like his employer's rules, then he is free to look for employment elsewhere. Now that that is out of the way ( yea, right.... How many people will still post after this saying, "It's only pot, and RR beat his wife and only got 2 games".... LOTS)
He is selfish and only thought of himself, and now he's gonna pay the price........ As will his teammates, coaches and fans. If you can't do the time, don't load the bowl.
Well said. Agree 100%.
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#Browns Josh Gordon's team is considering its legal options right now.
Granted, it's Mary Kay, but we haven't seen the end of this yet.
#Browns Josh Gordon's team is considering its legal options right now.
Granted, it's Mary Kay, but we haven't seen the end of this yet.
Oh boy!!!!!
Looking forward to hearing about this non stop for the next 2 years.....Yay!!!!!
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Ray Rice is having a good laugh about this. Maybe it will save his old lady from her Wednesday beating.
Ray just smacked his ole lady once up side the head for the fuck of it.
Ray just smacked his ole lady once up side the head for the fuck of it.
Goodell is sticking to his strict "2 Games per woman punch" policy. The Ravens are just glad he didn't unload a combo.
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Can you stop posting this like a 14-year old? It's clearly not the case. It's about repeated offenses. Let the adults talk.
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So if he is found guilty of the DUI, what does the league policy call for since he is already on a year suspension for drug policy violation?
Do they have a death penalty that precludes ever playing again for JG?
The Browns took a chance on a talented player who already had the same problems while at Baylor. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and move on.
Do they have a death penalty that precludes ever playing again for JG?
May be wrong, but I believe he has essentially gotten "the death penalty" since all he is entitled to do in one year is apply for reinstatement.
"if he didn't smoke it, you can't revoke it."
Don't know about Cochran, but sure sounds like something Jackie Childs would say...
Hmmmm... Risk vs Reward... Risk = another suspension. Reward = Hall of fame talent
I think he is worth the risk... and I'm nowhere near cutting him yet if I'm the Browns...
Agree 100%...
@everlastingxxx said:
The risk is having another camp full of Gordan distractions and risking the chemistry of the team.
No chance of that... those are Johnny's jobs...
... Gordon should have known to dodge the shit with a 100ft pole.
I think the one point that was made in an earlier thread (that I have not seen here) is that the levels in Josh's "positive test" were consistent with his second hand smoke claim.
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