Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Way too soon for JM. Hoyer should start given the record before injury, even if he did throw picks. A win is a win and until it gets to the point he can't even come close due to his own poor play, then he should start.
Way too soon for JM. Hoyer should start given the record before injury, even if he did throw picks. A win is a win and until it gets to the point he can't even come close due to his own poor play, then he should start.
it's pretty obvious by his play and his own admission that manziel doesn't believe he's ready....if he doesn't believe he's ready (confidence has not been a problem for johnny) then he's not ready....don't throw him to the wolves, just yet.....let him develop a little and get comfortable executing the playbook...meanwhile start hoyer or grossman, which ever shows the best......i'm not confidant manziel will ever succeed in the nfl like he did in college.....sumlin gave him the perfect offense to play in for his skills....shanahan, not so much.....
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Post pics of cartel. Wait, not a good idea.
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Hilarious.
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You don't draft someone in the 1st round for them to sit on the bench to a career backup and nobody named Brian Hoyer. Brian Hoyer is decent at best, but is he really the future\? PUt in manziel and throw him vs dick lebeaus defense. Dick lebeau is severely overrated, tim tebow beat him. Our team is down and out, we lost josh gordon and mike pettine is a horrible coach. Put in manziel and let him get the rookie rust off, because hoyer isn't winning us games, our defense will if anything. Jason Campbell is a better qb than brian hoyer, manziel is a better qb than brian hoyer, connor shaw is a better qb than brian hoyer.
Hopefully the preseason game tommorow will open eyes when brian hoyer looks terrible vs 3rd stringers.
You don't draft someone in the 1st round for them to sit on the bench to a career backup and nobody named Brian Hoyer. Brian Hoyer is decent at best, but is he really the future\? PUt in manziel and throw him vs dick lebeaus defense. Dick lebeau is severely overrated, tim tebow beat him. Our team is down and out, we lost josh gordon and mike pettine is a horrible coach. Put in manziel and let him get the rookie rust off, because hoyer isn't winning us games, our defense will if anything. Jason Campbell is a better qb than brian hoyer, manziel is a better qb than brian hoyer, connor shaw is a better qb than brian hoyer.
Hopefully the preseason game tommorow will open eyes when brian hoyer looks terrible vs 3rd stringers.
El Presador is that you?
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Good one.
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nice
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You don't draft someone in the 1st round for them to sit on the bench to a career backup and nobody named Brian Hoyer. Brian Hoyer is decent at best, but is he really the future\? PUt in manziel and throw him vs dick lebeaus defense. Dick lebeau is severely overrated, tim tebow beat him. Our team is down and out, we lost josh gordon and mike pettine is a horrible coach. Put in manziel and let him get the rookie rust off, because hoyer isn't winning us games, our defense will if anything. Jason Campbell is a better qb than brian hoyer, manziel is a better qb than brian hoyer, connor shaw is a better qb than brian hoyer.
Hopefully the preseason game tommorow will open eyes when brian hoyer looks terrible vs 3rd stringers.
You don't draft someone in the 1st round for them to sit on the bench to a career backup and nobody named Brian Hoyer. Brian Hoyer is decent at best, but is he really the future\? PUt in manziel and throw him vs dick lebeaus defense. Dick lebeau is severely overrated, tim tebow beat him. Our team is down and out, we lost josh gordon and mike pettine is a horrible coach. Put in manziel and let him get the rookie rust off, because hoyer isn't winning us games, our defense will if anything. Jason Campbell is a better qb than brian hoyer, manziel is a better qb than brian hoyer, connor shaw is a better qb than brian hoyer.
Hopefully the preseason game tommorow will open eyes when brian hoyer looks terrible vs 3rd stringers.
and hoyer is? Hoyer caught a lucky streak last year, one of the games he won he threw 3 picks. People act as if hes amazing but in reality he is average. Manziel should be thrown to the wolves and allowed to work through the growing pains. Its the only way. You don't get better by sitting on the bench, hoyer can attest to that.
He fuck your wife?
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You don't draft someone in the 1st round for them to sit on the bench to a career backup and nobody named Brian Hoyer. Brian Hoyer is decent at best, but is he really the future\? PUt in manziel and throw him vs dick lebeaus defense. Dick lebeau is severely overrated, tim tebow beat him. Our team is down and out, we lost josh gordon and mike pettine is a horrible coach. Put in manziel and let him get the rookie rust off, because hoyer isn't winning us games, our defense will if anything. Jason Campbell is a better qb than brian hoyer, manziel is a better qb than brian hoyer, connor shaw is a better qb than brian hoyer.
Hopefully the preseason game tommorow will open eyes when brian hoyer looks terrible vs 3rd stringers.
and hoyer is? Hoyer caught a lucky streak last year, one of the games he won he threw 3 picks. People act as if hes amazing but in reality he is average. Manziel should be thrown to the wolves and allowed to work through the growing pains. Its the only way. You don't get better by sitting on the bench, hoyer can attest to that.
He fuck your wife?
He fuck your wife?
YES. I'm glad this is back.
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Damn right. Where are Hoyer's endorsements? LMAO
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Damn right. Where are Hoyer's endorsements? LMAO
Damn right. Where are Hoyer's endorsements? LMAO
He's already got a job ... starting quarterback in the NFL.
Zombo
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and hoyer is? Hoyer caught a lucky streak last year, one of the games he won he threw 3 picks. People act as if hes amazing but in reality he is average. Manziel should be thrown to the wolves and allowed to work through the growing pains. Its the only way. You don't get better by sitting on the bench, hoyer can attest to that.
Yup. Aaron Rodgers got progressively worse by sitting on the bench. I hear he is out of the league now.
Yup. Aaron Rodgers got progressively worse by sitting on the bench. I hear he is out of the league now.
Rodgers is only one of a few success stories in today's NFL that had to sit before he started. But he sat behind Favre, Hoyer ( and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong ) is a far cry from Fave. Lets go over them shall we.
AFC North
Cincy - Dalton - day one
Balt - Flacco - day one
Pitt - Ben came in later as a rookie, Maddux started
Clev- Hoyer CAREER BACK-UP
NFC North
Det - Stafford - day one
Chi - Cutler - came in later as a rookie, Plummer started
Minn - Castle - career back-up
G.B. - Rodgers - Sat 4 years behind a Hall Of Famer
AFC South
Indy - Luck - day one
Jax - Henne - pretty sure he didint start as a rook and is basically a career back-up
Hou - ??????? Who knows what they are doing down there. Jeesh we think its rough here.
Tenn - Locker - came in later as a rookie, Hasselbeck started
NFC South
N.O. - Brees - day one
Car - Cam - day one
Atl - Ryan - day one
T.B. - McCown - career back-up
AFC East
N.E. - Brady - came in later as a rookie, Bledsoe Started
Miami - Tannehill - day one
Jets - Vick - day one, Smith - came in later as a rookie, Sanchez started
Buff - Manuel - day one
NFC East
Wash - RGIII - day one
Giants - Manning - day one
Dallas - Romo - sat 3 years behind Bledsoe
Phi - Foles - Came in later as a rookie, Vick started
AFC West
Den - Manning - day one
K.C. - Smith - day one
S.D. - Rivers - sat one year behind Future Hall Of Famer Brees
Oak - Schaub - Started as a back-up to Vick in Atl for a few years before gettin to start.
NFC West
Seattle - Wilson - day one
S.F. - Cap - came in later as a rookie, Alex smith started
Ari - Palmer - sat one year behind John Kitna in Cincy
Rams - Bradford - day one
15 of the 32 starting QB's in the NFL today all started their first game on opening day of their rookie seasons. The time of sitting your 1st round drafted QB are long gone. We needed to start Johnny and let him grow with the team on the field. not grow with the number 2's in practice. I personally think not doing so is a mistake by Pettine and will only slow Johnny's growth down. Obviously if almost half of the starters in the NFL have achieved this than it works. Almost a 50% chance of success. Couch has probably been our best QB since our return And outside of Weeden he is the only one we have let just go out there and play from day one. I guess its a either piss or get off the pot scenario for me. I say we absolutely should have went with Johnny
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"Cause you're Johnny Football man."
LOL! Instant classic.
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Have another laugh!
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Yup. Aaron Rodgers got progressively worse by sitting on the bench. I hear he is out of the league now.
Rodgers is only one of a few success stories in today's NFL that had to sit before he started. But he sat behind Favre, Hoyer ( and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong ) is a far cry from Fave. Lets go over them shall we.
AFC North
Cincy - Dalton - day one
Balt - Flacco - day one
Pitt - Ben came in later as a rookie, Maddux started
Clev- Hoyer CAREER BACK-UP
NFC North
Det - Stafford - day one
Chi - Cutler - came in later as a rookie, Plummer started
Minn - Castle - career back-up
G.B. - Rodgers - Sat 4 years behind a Hall Of Famer
AFC South
Indy - Luck - day one
Jax - Henne - pretty sure he didint start as a rook and is basically a career back-up
Hou - ??????? Who knows what they are doing down there. Jeesh we think its rough here.
Tenn - Locker - came in later as a rookie, Hasselbeck started
NFC South
N.O. - Brees - day one
Car - Cam - day one
Atl - Ryan - day one
T.B. - McCown - career back-up
AFC East
N.E. - Brady - came in later as a rookie, Bledsoe Started
Miami - Tannehill - day one
Jets - Vick - day one, Smith - came in later as a rookie, Sanchez started
Buff - Manuel - day one
NFC East
Wash - RGIII - day one
Giants - Manning - day one
Dallas - Romo - sat 3 years behind Bledsoe
Phi - Foles - Came in later as a rookie, Vick started
AFC West
Den - Manning - day one
K.C. - Smith - day one
S.D. - Rivers - sat one year behind Future Hall Of Famer Brees
Oak - Schaub - Started as a back-up to Vick in Atl for a few years before gettin to start.
NFC West
Seattle - Wilson - day one
S.F. - Cap - came in later as a rookie, Alex smith started
Ari - Palmer - sat one year behind John Kitna in Cincy
Rams - Bradford - day one
15 of the 32 starting QB's in the NFL today all started their first game on opening day of their rookie seasons. The time of sitting your 1st round drafted QB are long gone. We needed to start Johnny and let him grow with the team on the field. not grow with the number 2's in practice. I personally think not doing so is a mistake by Pettine and will only slow Johnny's growth down. Obviously if almost half of the starters in the NFL have achieved this than it works. Almost a 50% chance of success. Couch has probably been our best QB since our return And outside of Weeden he is the only one we have let just go out there and play from day one. I guess its a either piss or get off the pot scenario for me. I say we absolutely should have went with Johnny
N.O. - Brees - day one
NO ... sat entire first year behind Flutie
AFC East
Jets - Vick - day one, Smith - came in later as a rookie, Sanchez started
NO ... Sat behind Chandler first year
Giants - Manning - day one
NO ... took over for Warner week 10
AFC West
K.C. - Smith - day one
NO ... backed up Tim Rattay to start the season
15 of the 32 starting QB's in the NFL today all started their first game on opening day of their rookie seasons.
NO ... you are down to 11 of 32 with some quick fact checking
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Damn Did that all from memory
I thought I had it. Anyway the basic point from it all is, I just dont see how Johnny sitting behind Hoyer ( a career back-up ) will help him learn anything other than how to be a career back-up.Thanks for all those corrections Zombo but for what its worth Im still at 12 cuz I didnt count Vick since he probably isnt stating anyway
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