"White Privilege"
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For some perspective, I recommend a drive into an Appalachian "holler" say in Kentucky or West Virginia. Then inform your peer group of how you spent your weekend. See if their responses aren't bigoted and narrow-mindedThere's a classic example of this if you care to look it up. A study was ran where two resumes were turned in to an office, one with a "white" sounding name and one with a "black" sounding name. It was nothing overt like Quantavious, but it's clear when you read it that one name was perceived as white. The "black" candidate was given much better credentials than the "white" candidate, yet the "white" candidate was chosen almost a significant more amount of the time. When asked why, most recruiters noted the "white" candidate sounded more reliable and responsible. Mind you these people knew nothing about the candidates. Again, things you are pointing to are overt. Both white and black men and women are born into crappy situations, but I am playing with loaded dice.
Cops have reported that by in large they trust white people to be safer and easier to trust. the common response to that is to show those statistics of who is committing crimes which always has black men at the top, yada yada. But for the one gang-banging black man there's 10 who are just normal people. However, it's a subconscious belief that they more dangerous when most are law-abiding citizens just like you and me.
Black citizens are still coming out of the ghetto and poverty situations. I laugh when people throw out the American Dream nonsense and like it's some amazingly easy thing to just leave that life when it includes family and friends. White poverty is seen as people trying to make ends meet while black poverty is seen as a bunch of thugs who can't do better for themselves. It's a double standard that if you don't believe I can't really prove over the internet.
Lastly, look at the positions of power and influence and see the disparity. If you have kids, how many of their teachers are black or another minority? How many top level executives are a minority? Barack Obama is black sure but what he actually does is limited by, you guessed it, a group of white men. It's a subconscious realization that the people in power are white and look out for the interest of their own. The only thing other thing I'll say is I'm not suggesting we're still in slave times and on the whole society is getting better. BUT, white men still hold the keys to the car. It's a hard wall to break down but I hope you consider it. I'm not gonna keep going with it all but I won't squash your beliefs either. Have a good day.
For some perspective, I recommend a drive into an Appalachian "holler" say in Kentucky or West Virginia. Then inform your peer group of how you spent your weekend. See if their responses aren't bigoted and narrow-minded
I could drive an hour into a "holler" in Logan Co., WV. I am sure they are beating themselves up over how privileged they are.
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I'm a white man and I have never heard of "White Privilege"
I do however feel privileged that I have a mother and father that have been together for all 44 of my years.
I'm a white man and I have never heard of "White Privilege"
I do however feel privileged that I have a mother and father that have been together for all 44 of my years.
Well I was going to post something similar to that.
However even more important than an intact family I would suggest the important part is that whatever family you have is supportive and encouraging you to succeed and learn. That could be a single parent, a grandparent an aunt and uncle, one of the above...
Also that encouragement should come from example. You know, like working for whatever it is you have and not blaming your lack of success on someone else.
Every American human being with at least average intelligence has the capacity for success no matter what their race or locale.
WSS
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Last Post: Honestly, I respect everyone's opinion because this whole thing is a tough nut to crack. And frankly typing this over the internet doesn't work in helping me point my feelings towards it all. I will say this: every time you look at this situation as "feeling guilty" or "being racist" you're missing the true point of it all. The media (looking at you CNN) paints an entirely different picture of this concept when things like Ferguson come up. I don't, and have never, felt guilty. I've never felt like a racist or that I should hand things to minorities because I as a white man should feel bad.
I choose to believe through empirical data and looking at the world around me that as of 2014 people like me (white men) have the decked stacked in their favor. That doesn't mean I'm devoid of conditions or get a pass on life. If you see things differently, to quote the Big Lebowski. "well that's like uh, your opinion man". I'm not going to try and bleed a turnip because your life experiences play a huge factor in all this.
P.S. If by Indians you meant Native Americans, I just want to point out that outside the Cherokee (the casino guys) Native Americans are by in large the most oppressed, undereducated and poverty stricken group of citizens in the United States. I would encourage you to look up some documentaries on the subject because it's quite eye opening.
Also, Go Browns?!
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I think he meant Indians from India who outperform the average here in America on a regular basis.
In my opinion the Native Americans have been destroyed by the practice of Balkanization, setting them apart from the rest of society, and treating them more like pets than human beings.
WSS
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I am indeed talking about indians. If I were talking about "Native Americans". I'd have said "American Indians".
American Indians are doing poorly. They lost their war and their lands but I can't help them with that. What's done is done. Like the blacks it's time to throw away their old resentments and move forward. Nothing is PREVENTING them from being successful except their own attitudes about life. Nobody has a hiring policy where blacks and American Indians need not apply. Those days are over.
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Ned Beatty was "privileged" to receive that unsolicited butt plug.
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The only time you ever have "white privilege", is when a non-white has
been discriminated against.
The rest of the time, it doesn't exist. There used to be - back in the day of slavery,
no vote, and wanton discrimination.
Now there is none, for the most part. Anybody who thinks there is, might possibly
be feeling liberal angst of victimhood - victim of "guilt".
Now about "black disadvantage" instead ? A major subculture of sloth, living on the dole,
having kids to get that gov support, father splits because they aren't married because
they get more money that way, and the gangsta rap home lives create lost soul
grown-ups who end up in prison, etc.
That exists bigtime. It is a huge problem, but not only restricted to blacks. Whites can be
that disadvantaged, too. But Bill Cosby and Dr. Carson have noted it in the black community
as a huge problem.
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progressivism championing the lowly masses - while enjoying the fruits?
good for ANYONE who rises and is successful in our society
the intended results of civil rights hmm?
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For some perspective, I recommend a drive into an Appalachian "holler" say in Kentucky or West Virginia. Then inform your peer group of how you spent your weekend. See if their responses aren't bigoted and narrow-minded
I could drive an hour into a "holler" in Logan Co., WV. I am sure they are beating themselves up over how privileged they are.
Haha yup. Exactly. I know of Logan Co., also "Out Wayne"I could drive an hour into a "holler" in Logan Co., WV. I am sure they are beating themselves up over how privileged they are.
However, if your car breaks down, get a flat, run out of gas, etc. the throngs of "white privilege" from the Hollers will be the 1st to help you out (as long as you're not looking for trouble).
Wonder what would happen if you broke down in Ferguson.
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I am indeed talking about indians. If I were talking about "Native Americans". I'd have said "American Indians".
American Indians are doing poorly. They lost their war and their lands but I can't help them with that. What's done is done. Like the blacks it's time to throw away their old resentments and move forward. Nothing is PREVENTING them from being successful except their own attitudes about life. Nobody has a hiring policy where blacks and American Indians need not apply. Those days are over.
I am indeed talking about indians. If I were talking about "Native Americans". I'd have said "American Indians".
American Indians are doing poorly. They lost their war and their lands but I can't help them with that. What's done is done. Like the blacks it's time to throw away their old resentments and move forward. Nothing is PREVENTING them from being successful except their own attitudes about life. Nobody has a hiring policy where blacks and American Indians need not apply. Those days are over.
True...Native Americans are doing poorly because they choose to. They much prefer to stay on reservations than assimilate.
Many blacks are doing poorly because they choose to as well.
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There's a classic example of this if you care to look it up. A study was ran where two resumes were turned in to an office, one with a "white" sounding name and one with a "black" sounding name. It was nothing overt like Quantavious, but it's clear when you read it that one name was perceived as white. The "black" candidate was given much better credentials than the "white" candidate, yet the "white" candidate was chosen almost a significant more amount of the time. When asked why, most recruiters noted the "white" candidate sounded more reliable and responsible. Mind you these people knew nothing about the candidates. Again, things you are pointing to are overt. Both white and black men and women are born into crappy situations, but I am playing with loaded dice.
Cops have reported that by in large they trust white people to be safer and easier to trust. the common response to that is to show those statistics of who is committing crimes which always has black men at the top, yada yada. But for the one gang-banging black man there's 10 who are just normal people. However, it's a subconscious belief that they more dangerous when most are law-abiding citizens just like you and me.
Black citizens are still coming out of the ghetto and poverty situations. I laugh when people throw out the American Dream nonsense and like it's some amazingly easy thing to just leave that life when it includes family and friends. White poverty is seen as people trying to make ends meet while black poverty is seen as a bunch of thugs who can't do better for themselves. It's a double standard that if you don't believe I can't really prove over the internet.
Lastly, look at the positions of power and influence and see the disparity. If you have kids, how many of their teachers are black or another minority? How many top level executives are a minority? Barack Obama is black sure but what he actually does is limited by, you guessed it, a group of white men. It's a subconscious realization that the people in power are white and look out for the interest of their own. The only thing other thing I'll say is I'm not suggesting we're still in slave times and on the whole society is getting better. BUT, white men still hold the keys to the car. It's a hard wall to break down but I hope you consider it. I'm not gonna keep going with it all but I won't squash your beliefs either. Have a good day.
There's a classic example of this if you care to look it up. A study was ran where two resumes were turned in to an office, one with a "white" sounding name and one with a "black" sounding name. It was nothing overt like Quantavious, but it's clear when you read it that one name was perceived as white. The "black" candidate was given much better credentials than the "white" candidate, yet the "white" candidate was chosen almost a significant more amount of the time. When asked why, most recruiters noted the "white" candidate sounded more reliable and responsible. Mind you these people knew nothing about the candidates. Again, things you are pointing to are overt. Both white and black men and women are born into crappy situations, but I am playing with loaded dice.
Cops have reported that by in large they trust white people to be safer and easier to trust. the common response to that is to show those statistics of who is committing crimes which always has black men at the top, yada yada. But for the one gang-banging black man there's 10 who are just normal people. However, it's a subconscious belief that they more dangerous when most are law-abiding citizens just like you and me.
Black citizens are still coming out of the ghetto and poverty situations. I laugh when people throw out the American Dream nonsense and like it's some amazingly easy thing to just leave that life when it includes family and friends. White poverty is seen as people trying to make ends meet while black poverty is seen as a bunch of thugs who can't do better for themselves. It's a double standard that if you don't believe I can't really prove over the internet.
Lastly, look at the positions of power and influence and see the disparity. If you have kids, how many of their teachers are black or another minority? How many top level executives are a minority? Barack Obama is black sure but what he actually does is limited by, you guessed it, a group of white men. It's a subconscious realization that the people in power are white and look out for the interest of their own. The only thing other thing I'll say is I'm not suggesting we're still in slave times and on the whole society is getting better. BUT, white men still hold the keys to the car. It's a hard wall to break down but I hope you consider it. I'm not gonna keep going with it all but I won't squash your beliefs either. Have a good day.
Same old tired white guilt gibberish. Blacks, with the help of guilt ridden white liberals have created the situation they are in, and any negative perception that exists of black people is only because they have brought it upon themselves....80% of black children raised without a father in the home that are the products of baby popping mamas and irresponsible black men that run around impregnating every irresponsible female hood rat with their legs spread apart. High crime rates and the disproportionate number of blacks in prison are the result of a fatherless upbringing. There is no excuse for being lazy and irresponsible.
Foget about white privelege, it's the attitude of black privilege thats a larger problem ...the sense of entitlement, and that the white man "owes us". Before welfare most blacks lived as family units... a mother, father and children all living under one roof...post welfare family units seem rare. Every conceivable social program has been put in place to help blacks, yet it still isn't enough....must have something to do with white privilege.
Then there's those black children that criticize other black children for studying by accusing them of "acting white"...Dr. Ben Carson grew up in one of Detroits worst crime infested neighborhoods to become one of the top neurosurgeons in the country. There simply is no excuse.
Two 8yold black girls accusing each other of sucking dick and accusing the other of being "more black" than the other ...among a bunch of other foul mouth shit.
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Using a racial hatred attack on whites as a political movement doesn't
get the likes of Obamao, and his regime, and Jesse Jackson, and the rest,
votes and money.
But it's happening around the country.
And it's very dangerous - check all the assaults around the country, on the sidebar:
http://topconservativenews.com/2013/07/hate-crime-mob-attacks-in-cincinnati/
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Sad. You go to a county fair, or something, and ten black kids walk past you...
do you keep an eye out for an attack? It's happening often, around the country.
Here in Ohio, Toledo, Cincy, Akron, Columbus...for starters.
Yes - if you are white, and get assaulted by a group of black kids - Obamao and holder
and Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, etc, will all demand you get prosecuted
for using mace to protect yourself from serious injury.
This is a violent, out of control, Obamao/holder agitated subculture, and condoned
by their silence, if the victims are white, and the attackers are black.
It's all going upside down, inside out, and bass ackwards in this country under this
dirtbag president and his corrupt ag.
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Stereotypes exist for a reason.
They don't have to be permanent.
Still it takes a concerted effort on the members of whatever group you are talking about to change them. That, sir, is the American dream.
WSS
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I would love to see Dr. Ben Carson be president, and watch how
these things change over time.
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Stereotypes exist for a reason.
They don't have to be permanent.
Still it takes a concerted effort on the members of whatever group you are talking about to change them. That, sir, is the American dream.
WSS
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
They don't have to be permanent.
Still it takes a concerted effort on the members of whatever group you are talking about to change them. That, sir, is the American dream.
WSS
That concerted effort doesn't seem to be on the agenda though
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Stereotypes exist for a reason.
They don't have to be permanent.
Still it takes a concerted effort on the members of whatever group you are talking about to change them. That, sir, is the American dream.
WSS
That concerted effort doesn't seem to be on the agenda though
That concerted effort doesn't seem to be on the agenda though
Unfortunately true.
WSS
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