Like I said, Russia is going into E. Ukraine now
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Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.
WSS
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WW1 was pretty much a stalemate. Without Russia in WW2 we would have lost.
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Posted Today, 07:01 PM
Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.
WSS****************************Well, Steve, that's the flip side. All those people don't, the large russian population does.But there's all those other countries. Say, there's plenty of russian immigrants in our country too...... -
and plenty of those in former "owned by the soviets" countries:
Russia is not stopping with Ukraine.
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Posted Today, 07:01 PM
Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.
WSS****************************Well, Steve, that's the flip side. All those people don't, the large russian population does.But there's all those other countries. Say, there's plenty of russian immigrants in our country too......
yes there are. I'm sure all the Hispanics, or many of them, would like Texas and New Mexico to be part of Old Mexico.Posted Today, 07:01 PM
Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.
WSS
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Well, Steve, that's the flip side. All those people don't, the large russian population does.
But there's all those other countries. Say, there's plenty of russian immigrants in our country too......
WSS
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I know you always want to throw the blame at the president(and there is plenty he deserves), but he is walking a very fine line atm trying to prevent WW3. We need to have NATO and other EU countries, that up till the point where there was to much evidence to deny that Russia was involved with Ukrainian conflict, that didn't want to get involved start doing something. Pressure from the US alone does nothing but ratchet up the tension in the area... and unfortunately we need Russia's help to go after ISIS. Syria would see any attack by the US in Syria territory as an act of war, going to war with Syria could mean going to war with Iran and Russia, and without going into Syria ISIS will never be eradicated.
If a major war does break out, Putin has already threatened that "Russia is the most powerful nuclear country", which could be seen as either a deterrent for the west to not get involved or a threat that he is willing to launch.
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dammit. Went and got a root beer, hit a key, and lost my whole post. GARRRRRRR !
Okay, I'll start over - good thing I type very fast:
NO, Obamao is the coward who voted "present" instead of "yay" or "nay" on issues 128 times.
He has no American principles to guide him, nor experience, nor understanding of history
to guide him. He is our "Chamberlein", as in back in the cowardly days of said coward who favored
appeasing the nazis and helped bring out Britains desperate fight for survival in the end.
We should have already armed the Kurds hugely. We should have sent airstrikes to the giant
ISIS column traveling in broad daylight up the major highways into Iraq. We should have armed
Ukraine, and after this build-up, we should have put those missile defense systems in Poland,
the Ukraine, and several other countries, NATO or not, who desperately want to be protected
from being invaded and/or intimidated by the new soviets.
Back in the day, the soviets invaded Czechoslovakia. Know who was president then?
LBJ. Major liberal. No military experience. Pushover coward who sent many tens of thousands
of soldiers to fight in Vietnam, but would never let us bomb Haiphong Harbor because China or
the Soviets wouldn't like it. What a disgrace, and now, Obamao is the same kind of coward.
He won't decide to take action because of politics, like everything else. It isn't just me, Obamao's
latest Gallop poll approval rating has fallen to 38 %. We always kept hearing about Bush's low rating.
but libs don't talk ratings, ever, when they don't suit the agenda.
Way, way back in the day, i was playing intramural basketball in hs. Well, seemed like every shot I took,
just went in. So, the guy guarding me one game, decided to rough me up to "take me out of my game".
I got elbowed in the eye, tripped, elbowed in the ribs and the neck, and he went way up in the air and landed
on me and we both went to the floor. I had been letting know he should knock it off or else. But, "else" never came,
so he kept getting rougher and rougher.
so, after getting landed on, and a forearm to my ear, I called timeout and told my teammates that I wanted
them to get the ball to me and let me shoot. So, they did, I had the ball at the 3 pt line, and I was alone, everybody
else was under the basket.
So, I slowly dribbled toward the basket, giving me an easy shot, and sure enough, his teammates yelled to
him to guard me, cause I was his guy. So he was running for me like mad, I fake-pumped two times, and went
up to shoot my shot. He went way up in the air again. But I never let my feet leave the floor - and when he was on his way
down to crunch me to the floor again, I pulled the ball back down, and stuffed it into his lower ribs as he landed
on my shoulders, and they say the sound he made could have been heard anywhere in school.
So, there he was, on my shoulder, and I shrugged him off into the floor and he hit head first.
Didn't play another game, missed a day of school, and never messed with me again. Ever.
And, I made my two foul shots.
Anyways, Remember - Yuri Andropov was the chairman of the KGB back in LBJ's day, and he was
super vicious invasion/aggressive to the core. Putin is also KGB, and has plenty of that in him and his
cohorts, too. Phoney "red lines" and failure to make any significant decision invites more serious trouble like
we have now - and you see it in the Ukraine, Syria, Gaza, Iraq, and other places...
Oh, and btw, Putin and his "we're nuclear" hints? He would never use that on Bush or Reagan.
But Obamao invites bullying the US because of who he and his cronies are. That's very bad.
I said before all this, that Obamao's cowardice and naivete will encourage big, serious trouble.
and perhaps it is going to get a lot worse.
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btw, another failure by this failure of a president, is the refusal to make
a decision in Benghazi, he and higgardly refused to let the commandoes
save the diplomat and others.
Took too much time to take a poll to see if they would lose votes, the
cowards.
What a clusterfook.
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So Russia is threatening to nuke us. That's fun. Cold War part deux. I think he's being a pussy though. You didn't Se Hitler arming rebels. He wanted Poland and went and took it. If Putin wants Ukraine so badly he should man up and invade them.
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Doesn't have to. He can landlock the Ukraine and starve them out, Stalin style.
See, without the E. Ukraine, which Russia wants for the seaport access, and control
over the Ukraine, they can isolate and dominate and control the Ukraine.
That's stalinist marxist 101.
They had it until the super pro russian leader was deposed for trying to sell out all of
Ukraine to russia.
And they ARE invading the Ukraine. Just a piece at a time. After the Ukraine, another country
will be next.
They've said if we let the Ukraine into NATO, they will consider it a national security matter.
Really? So, that means that they are threatening war if they don't get to "re-annex" the Ukraine
and dominate the entire region. Hell, they already took Crimea. Why the E? Because Crimea was
just a start. And russian warhawks see their chance to make America into a joke, to frighten all all of
NATO. The Ukraine is just a start.
Note: The russians are saying that NATO membership of the Ukraine is a matter violation of their national security.
Read up:
General wants permission to launch first strike against us and NATO already.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Russian-pre-emptive-nuclear-strike/2014/09/04/id/592739/
Now, look at the current members of NATO:
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm
The russian foreign minister says some very tellinig things about russian intentions
and posturing:
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They want to put NATO and the US out of their empire rebuilding, that
they are talking about war because the U.S. is protecting
Monsanto with their gmo/spray building.
http://topinfopost.com/2013/05/28/russia-warns-obama-monsanto
I warned years ago, that eventually, the bad players in the world would
make their move while this coward is president, and we are distracted
by this marxist, controversial loser of a president.
It's happening.
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If Putin is a marxist and obamao is a marxist why are we having this stand off?
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So what are the chances this cease-fire will work out how we want it to? Seems NATO is still going ahead with more sanctions with Russia even with the cease-fire.
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So you want us to arm the Kurds hugely? One group that has been helping us is a Kurd terrorist group (PKK) that NATO and other countries consider a terrorist group(for its fighting in Turkey) if we arm them chances are after ISIS is gone those weapons will be used in Turkey.
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There are several groups. For instance, you know there are Jewish Kurds?
And Christian Kurds?
All sorts of ethic Kurds. And they will be wiped out by ISIS when
we don't help them.
The PKK morphed into more of a liberal group, not so much
a communist group anymore. but there are still remants of
the old nationalist movements that are re-arising today.
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Now, we have agents? of russia kidnapping an Esontoia intel officer.
This is tweaking the nose of NATO, and judging obamo's inaction again.
I bet it won't be the last time they screw with one of those NATO countries, just enough
to cause a problem, probably not invade unless they can devise another pretext.
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Now, even libs can't deny that russian soldiers went to the Ukraine,
and masqueraded as "rebels".
Russia in on a destructive mission - to get back the giant
soviet union again.
And they will not care about sanctions, nor the un, nothing is going to stop them.
http://news.yahoo.com/special-report-moscow-stifles-dissent-soldiers-return-coffins-090051931.html
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