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Could We Still See Gordon This Year?

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  • Im not holding my breath. This deal has been on the table for a LONG time and the players union is terrified of HGH testing....which is the caveat here....So, let's be clear, it's the players union that is causing all the delays....not the NFL....

    So, if they do get the agreement done, maybe a few pot smokers like JG will find their way back into the league, but MANY MORE players will be suspended for HGH use......and who knows "who" they may be......but I bet there are a lot more players using HGH during the season, than there are smoking pot or taking molly......

    Thats the dilemma.....does the union prefer to have pot smokers playing or HGH users playing....???.......hmmmmm

  • Per PFT :

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/04/a-new-drug-testing-agreement-could-benefit-welker-gordon/

    Broncos receiver Wes Welker is suspended for the first four games of the season, and Browns receiver Josh Gordon is suspended for the entire season. Both players have already appealed, and lost.

    And yet there’s a chance that both players could still see their suspensions reduced.

    As Mike Florio reported on NBC, Welker, Gordon and potentially other players in the midst of suspensions could benefit from a new drug testing policy that the owners and players could agree upon soon.

    The new policy that may be forthcoming has received attention primarily because it would include testing for human growth hormone, which has never before been tested in the NFL. But the policy would also have some other changes.

    One change is that offseason use of amphetamines would move from the performance-enhancing substance policy to the substance-abuse policy. That would mean that Welker would switch from a first-time offender in the PED policy (which carries an automatic four-game suspension) to a first-time offender in the substance-abuse policy (which carries no suspension).

    Another change is that the threshold to trigger a positive result on a marijuana test would rise. That would affect Gordon because his positive marijuana test was just barely above the NFL’s current threshold for a positive, which is significantly lower than the threshold for other organizations like the World Anti-Doping Agency.

    If the NFL changes its policy and agrees to apply it retroactively to players who tested positive this year, Welker and Gordon would benefit. Which means that while the players’ union is stopping short of saying an agreement is very close, Welker and Gordon would be wise to call their union representatives and urge them to get the deal done, and get it done soon.

    Plus

    qzhbfg9lgfrkmkrt4l4u_normal.jpeg ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 44m Source says earliest a new drug policy will be finalized is Monday or Tuesday. Existing suspensions will stand for Week One.
  • I am actually starting to think this might happen. There are reports in multiple places alluding to the fact the NFLPA will insist on the suspensions this year being dismissed if they agree to the HGH testing protocols. JG is looking like a pretty smart 10th round pick now lol

  • I am actually starting to think this might happen. There are reports in multiple places alluding to the fact the NFLPA will insist on the suspensions this year being dismissed if they agree to the HGH testing protocols. JG is looking like a pretty smart 10th round pick now lol

    @jcam222 said:

    I am actually starting to think this might happen. There are reports in multiple places alluding to the fact the NFLPA will insist on the suspensions this year being dismissed if they agree to the HGH testing protocols. JG is looking like a pretty smart 10th round pick now lol

    The other hang up is the NFL insisting on being able to suspend a player on arrest for DUI. Shove it Goodell. Remember that guy Jim Irsay? Hell, based on initial evidence he was charged with felony drug possession. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24488636/colts-owner-jim-irsay-arrested-charged-with-owi

    You let that one play out in the courts- of course Irsay signs your paychecks.

  • Im not holding my breath. This deal has been on the table for a LONG time and the players union is terrified of HGH testing....which is the caveat here....So, let's be clear, it's the players union that is causing all the delays....not the NFL....

    So, if they do get the agreement done, maybe a few pot smokers like JG will find their way back into the league, but MANY MORE players will be suspended for HGH use......and who knows "who" they may be......but I bet there are a lot more players using HGH during the season, than there are smoking pot or taking molly......

    Thats the dilemma.....does the union prefer to have pot smokers playing or HGH users playing....???.......hmmmmm

    @mudfly said:

    I bet there are a lot more players using HGH during the season, than there are smoking pot or taking molly......

    Who's Molly?

  • If Gordon does manage to see the field next week, can he stay clean enough to remain on it? I have my doubts.

  • ... and Gordon is disappearing from Fantasy FA lists all across the nation...

  • If Gordon does manage to see the field next week, can he stay clean enough to remain on it? I have my doubts.

    @topdawg31 said:

    If Gordon does manage to see the field next week, can he stay clean enough to remain on it? I have my doubts.

    Yeah, I dont have much faith in him myself. Especially with the looming DUI. .....

    Im just not planning on him being here, so IF he is, Ill consider it a bonus....but not losing any sleep over it.

    Plus, I think if he comes back, he'll be gone again as soon as that DUI gets reviewed......when was that....oct nov?

  • @jcam222 said:

    I am actually starting to think this might happen. There are reports in multiple places alluding to the fact the NFLPA will insist on the suspensions this year being dismissed if they agree to the HGH testing protocols. JG is looking like a pretty smart 10th round pick now lol

    The other hang up is the NFL insisting on being able to suspend a player on arrest for DUI. Shove it Goodell. Remember that guy Jim Irsay? Hell, based on initial evidence he was charged with felony drug possession. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24488636/colts-owner-jim-irsay-arrested-charged-with-owi

    You let that one play out in the courts- of course Irsay signs your paychecks.

    @hoorta said:

    The other hang up is the NFL insisting on being able to suspend a player on arrest for DUI. Shove it Goodell. Remember that guy Jim Irsay? Hell, based on initial evidence he was charged with felony drug possession. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24488636/colts-owner-jim-irsay-arrested-charged-with-owi

    You let that one play out in the courts- of course Irsay signs your paychecks.

    It is amazing that the NFLPA ever agreed to allow DUI suspensions prior to conviction. It is mind boggling to me that that type of suspension wouldn't be overturned in any court of law in the nation. You would think it easy to get an injunction against the suspension pending the outcome of the DUI in court. Anyone who has ever been suspended, sat out the games, lost the paychecks and then beat it in court should be due reparation.

  • Right now there is no suspension penalty for a 1st time DUI, only a two-game fine. The proposal is that there be a one-game suspension, the same as Josh may end up with for his "no-longer-a-positive-test" banned substance suspension...

    I smell package deal... namely time served...

  • Plus 1 on that....I was thinking if he missed a game, then they rescinded the suspension, they would owe him(and the Browns) one game you cant get back.....sooooo, a trade seems reasonable to me too

  • Just heard it on the halftime show. 32 player reps to vote on it tomorrow. Would have had the vote today but 4 reps had games today.

  • per Chris Mortensen...

    NFL - ESPN.com - Go.com

    espn.go.com/nfl/

    ESPN

    mortreport Chris Mortensen NFLPA will have 32 player reps vote Tuesday on a proposed overhauled drug policy after daylong negotiations, per sources.

  • Rumor's out that the NFLPA will vote tomorrow on the new Drug testing tomorrow.

    Dawg Pound Nation ‏@DawgPoundNews 1h Per Chris Mortensen, the NFLPA will vote on the new drug policy tomorrow. Could have big implications for the #Browns.

    And

    Tom Reed ‏@treed1919 1h Obviously this could have huge implications for Josh Gordon. As of last week #Browns did not have a player rep. D'Qwell was player rep.

  • Love to see Gordon paired up with the other young guys on Sunday.

    Cleveland will be rocking!

  • If they could change rices suspension they can change Gordons

  • http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11491428/nfl-players-association-vote-revised-drug-policy

    NFLPA to vote on new drug policy

    The NFL Players Association will take a vote Tuesday among its 32 player representatives on a radically revised drug policy after a daylong face-to-face negotiation with the league in New York, according to player sources.

    The proposed policy will include human growth hormone testing for the first time, as well as make significant changes that raise limits for marijuana testing and expand neutral arbitration, sources said.

    The two sides still have some disagreement on proposed issues, but the NFLPA agreed to take the league's latest proposal to the player reps for a vote. The union informed the majority of its player reps Monday evening of the development. Four others are involved in the Monday night double-header.

    One late sticking point is that the league has received complaints and concerns from owners regarding possible reinstatement for recently suspended players such as Josh Gordon of the Cleveland Browns and Wes Welker of the Denver Broncos, who would not have been suspended under the proposed policy. Those owners were displeased that a new agreement would not necessarily alter the standing of their own suspended players.

    Nevertheless, there are numerous unidentified players in the league's substance-abuse program who would benefit from the changes, sources said.

  • If he comes back it would be nice

  • I don't know how badly Blackmon flunked his pee test but gordon was definitely ticky tack shit.