Re-watched the Browns Steelers game...
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Post game, Hoyer said that in the 2nd half the Oline was gassed. The topic of the question he was
answering was whether the Offense could sustain the no-huddle for the entire game.
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I was shitfaced in Heinz Field when I watched it in person, now watching it on TV and here are my notes.
1. The o-line is there. It's getting very strong and very solid. Love Bitonio.
2. Jordan Cameron flat out cost us a TD, he fell fucking down and we settled for a field goal. Stay on your feet and that's 7 points.
3. Brian Hoyer had 3 interceptions dropped. Once by Shazier, one by Taylor, one by Allen. He still throws some very questionable passes. I don't think he's set in stone to be a great starter. He got away with A LOT. He can also be soo oooo good when he's confident. He is going to struggle without Gordon.
4. Ben Tate, Terrance West, and Isaah Crowell are a 3 headed monster. Love it.
5. Hawkins & Gabriel are quality starters. The lack of a true #1 is disturbing. Should of drafted Watkins, Evans, or Benjamin.
6. Joe Haden is overrated. He gets burnt far too much to be elite. He causes a lot of penalties too. Had 2 or 3 this game. Joe Haden is an above average corner but not elite. He's just the best we have. He's Antonio Browns bitch. Justin Gilbert is totally fucking lost. I don't know whats worse, his lack of coverage or the fact he has the tackling ability of a frightened college mentality back up. I would bench him on principal alone.
7. Ryan Shazier is a fucking animal. DROY material.
8. Paul Kruger is coming along nicely. Glad to see him earning that $
9. Donte Whitner is all bark, absolutely zero bite.
10. Whoever is the tackling coach, should be shot. I'd have these fuckers running gassers until they died. Fucking pathetic.
11. Armonty Bryant fucking slammed Big Ben. It was amazing.
12. 30 seconds left in the 3rd on 3rd and 1 and Hoyer or someone fucked up a hand off. Settled for a field goal. We should of scored there or got the first down. Too many mistakes like this cost us games.
13. Stay in this no huddle pistol as much as possible.
14. The fake punt... That's balls right there. That's playing to win. That's a perfect example of why the Steelers are better than us. They play to win. That changed the momentum. We had them pinned and another classic fuck up by Haden and Gilbert.
15. We lot off the fucking gas in the final minutes. This is on Shanahan and Pettine. We quit doing what got us to comeback. Total fucking pussy shit. I can't believe we punted with 4:30 left. We had it 2nd and 7 and we should have just kept fucking pounding it or did a play action. This was a momentum shifter.
16. Our final drive, sacked for -6 yards, at this point WHY NOT LET THE FUCKING CLOCK RUN OUT TO FORCE PITT TO USE A TIME OUT? Next play, incomplete pass... next play a screen for -4 yards. Got scared and played like fucking dummies. Instead of giving Pittsburgh 20-30 seconds with no timeouts, we gave them 49.
17. Am I fucking dreaming or how did we FUCK UP THAT PUNT INSIDE THE 1? That's fucking pathetic. Another classic Cleveland opportunity we let slip.
18. Gilbert burnt twice in the final 30 seconds. Why didn't they fucking pull his ass earlier? The 20 yard pick up Gilberts dumb fucking ass was 6 yards away and laying on the fucking ground. God what a bum.
Are there things to build on? Yes.
But it was classic blown opportunities (the fake punt, punt inside the 1 and shitty coaching (our final drive, not forcing them to burn their timeouts, not pulling Gilbert) in the end that got us.
I blame Pettine, Shanahan, and Gilbert for losing this game.
Bright Spots: 0-line, RB's, Hoyer, Hawkins, Gabriel, Dansby, Kruger, Mingo, Bryant, Kirskey.
Fuck Sticks: Whitner, Haden, and Gilbert.
In the end, it was a fucking heartbreaker but we were out coached.
I was shitfaced in Heinz Field when I watched it in person, now watching it on TV and here are my notes.
1. The o-line is there. It's getting very strong and very solid. Love Bitonio.
2. Jordan Cameron flat out cost us a TD, he fell fucking down and we settled for a field goal. Stay on your feet and that's 7 points.
3. Brian Hoyer had 3 interceptions dropped. Once by Shazier, one by Taylor, one by Allen. He still throws some very questionable passes. I don't think he's set in stone to be a great starter. He got away with A LOT. He can also be soo oooo good when he's confident. He is going to struggle without Gordon.
4. Ben Tate, Terrance West, and Isaah Crowell are a 3 headed monster. Love it.
5. Hawkins & Gabriel are quality starters. The lack of a true #1 is disturbing. Should of drafted Watkins, Evans, or Benjamin.
6. Joe Haden is overrated. He gets burnt far too much to be elite. He causes a lot of penalties too. Had 2 or 3 this game. Joe Haden is an above average corner but not elite. He's just the best we have. He's Antonio Browns bitch. Justin Gilbert is totally fucking lost. I don't know whats worse, his lack of coverage or the fact he has the tackling ability of a frightened college mentality back up. I would bench him on principal alone.
7. Ryan Shazier is a fucking animal. DROY material.
8. Paul Kruger is coming along nicely. Glad to see him earning that $
9. Donte Whitner is all bark, absolutely zero bite.
10. Whoever is the tackling coach, should be shot. I'd have these fuckers running gassers until they died. Fucking pathetic.
11. Armonty Bryant fucking slammed Big Ben. It was amazing.
12. 30 seconds left in the 3rd on 3rd and 1 and Hoyer or someone fucked up a hand off. Settled for a field goal. We should of scored there or got the first down. Too many mistakes like this cost us games.
13. Stay in this no huddle pistol as much as possible.
14. The fake punt... That's balls right there. That's playing to win. That's a perfect example of why the Steelers are better than us. They play to win. That changed the momentum. We had them pinned and another classic fuck up by Haden and Gilbert.
15. We lot off the fucking gas in the final minutes. This is on Shanahan and Pettine. We quit doing what got us to comeback. Total fucking pussy shit. I can't believe we punted with 4:30 left. We had it 2nd and 7 and we should have just kept fucking pounding it or did a play action. This was a momentum shifter.
16. Our final drive, sacked for -6 yards, at this point WHY NOT LET THE FUCKING CLOCK RUN OUT TO FORCE PITT TO USE A TIME OUT? Next play, incomplete pass... next play a screen for -4 yards. Got scared and played like fucking dummies. Instead of giving Pittsburgh 20-30 seconds with no timeouts, we gave them 49.
17. Am I fucking dreaming or how did we FUCK UP THAT PUNT INSIDE THE 1? That's fucking pathetic. Another classic Cleveland opportunity we let slip.
18. Gilbert burnt twice in the final 30 seconds. Why didn't they fucking pull his ass earlier? The 20 yard pick up Gilberts dumb fucking ass was 6 yards away and laying on the fucking ground. God what a bum.
Are there things to build on? Yes.
But it was classic blown opportunities (the fake punt, punt inside the 1 and shitty coaching (our final drive, not forcing them to burn their timeouts, not pulling Gilbert) in the end that got us.
I blame Pettine, Shanahan, and Gilbert for losing this game.
Bright Spots: 0-line, RB's, Hoyer, Hawkins, Gabriel, Dansby, Kruger, Mingo, Bryant, Kirskey.
Fuck Sticks: Whitner, Haden, and Gilbert.
In the end, it was a fucking heartbreaker but we were out coached.
right on!
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@josephsuxdick said:
I've been saying this for years. Now it doesn't seem to get the same jeers and chuckles here anymore.
Ike Taylor has been dropping sure picks for years. Why should he be tougher on Hoyer than any other QB?
Did Shazier really look that good in person?
Haden dominates the best in the game.....Calvin Johnson, AJ Green etc. But yes, for some reason, he has trouble with Brown.
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@josephsuxdick said:
I've been saying this for years. Now it doesn't seem to get the same jeers and chuckles here anymore.
Ike Taylor has been dropping sure picks for years. Why should he be tougher on Hoyer than any other QB?
Did Shazier really look that good in person?
Haden dominates the best in the game.....Calvin Johnson, AJ Green etc. But yes, for some reason, he has trouble with Brown.
Haden dominates the best in the game.....Calvin Johnson, AJ Green etc. But yes, for some reason, he has trouble with Brown.
Are you implying brown isn't one of the best in the game? If not please disregard.
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Haden dominates the best in the game.....Calvin Johnson, AJ Green etc. But yes, for some reason, he has trouble with Brown.
Are you implying brown isn't one of the best in the game? If not please disregard.
Are you implying brown isn't one of the best in the game? If not please disregard.
I am implying that he is not as good as Green or Johnson or Fitzgerald. But yes, he is very good. Probably Top Ten in the league. But it is a fact that Haden does better against those others and not as well against Browns. So, yes, that is a compliment for him.
One site I checked listed these as the Top Ten WRs in the league this year (no order)
Calvin Johnson
Dez Bryant
Brandon Marshall
Julio Jones
Demarius Thomas
TY Hilton
Larry Fitzgerald
AJ Green
Antonio Brown
Gordon...if he played.
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Post game, Hoyer said that in the 2nd half the Oline was gassed. The topic of the question he was
answering was whether the Offense could sustain the no-huddle for the entire game.
Post game, Hoyer said that in the 2nd half the Oline was gassed. The topic of the question he was
answering was whether the Offense could sustain the no-huddle for the entire game.
doesn't seem to bother the eagles...and they run it all the time...there may be good reasons why not to run this offense, but "our players aren't in good enough shape" shouldn't be one of them....
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Post game, Hoyer said that in the 2nd half the Oline was gassed. The topic of the question he was
answering was whether the Offense could sustain the no-huddle for the entire game.
doesn't seem to bother the eagles...and they run it all the time...there may be good reasons why not to run this offense, but "our players aren't in good enough shape" shouldn't be one of them....
doesn't seem to bother the eagles...and they run it all the time...there may be good reasons why not to run this offense, but "our players aren't in good enough shape" shouldn't be one of them....
No argument here. Just telling you what the man said.
Although, Philly runs it as their primary offense, through training camp into the season. So they may be
a little more acclimated to the pace.
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Are you implying brown isn't one of the best in the game? If not please disregard.
I am implying that he is not as good as Green or Johnson or Fitzgerald. But yes, he is very good. Probably Top Ten in the league. But it is a fact that Haden does better against those others and not as well against Browns. So, yes, that is a compliment for him.
One site I checked listed these as the Top Ten WRs in the league this year (no order)
Calvin Johnson
Dez Bryant
Brandon Marshall
Julio Jones
Demarius Thomas
TY Hilton
Larry Fitzgerald
AJ Green
Antonio Brown
Gordon...if he played.
I am implying that he is not as good as Green or Johnson or Fitzgerald. But yes, he is very good. Probably Top Ten in the league. But it is a fact that Haden does better against those others and not as well against Browns. So, yes, that is a compliment for him.
One site I checked listed these as the Top Ten WRs in the league this year (no order)
Calvin Johnson
Dez Bryant
Brandon Marshall
Julio Jones
Demarius Thomas
TY Hilton
Larry Fitzgerald
AJ Green
Antonio Brown
Gordon...if he played.
Brown is every bit as good as those you list, he's just not 6'3 or taller. I also wouldn't put t.y Hilton on that list at all.
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I am implying that he is not as good as Green or Johnson or Fitzgerald. But yes, he is very good. Probably Top Ten in the league. But it is a fact that Haden does better against those others and not as well against Browns. So, yes, that is a compliment for him.
One site I checked listed these as the Top Ten WRs in the league this year (no order)
Calvin Johnson
Dez Bryant
Brandon Marshall
Julio Jones
Demarius Thomas
TY Hilton
Larry Fitzgerald
AJ Green
Antonio Brown
Gordon...if he played.
Brown is every bit as good as those you list, he's just not 6'3 or taller. I also wouldn't put t.y Hilton on that list at all.
Brown is every bit as good as those you list, he's just not 6'3 or taller. I also wouldn't put t.y Hilton on that list at all.
No one but a Steeler fan would list Brown as good as Megatron, Green, or Fitz.
While I did not list them in order when I wrote it down, the website I took this from had him at #10, behind all those others.
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Brown is every bit as good as those you list, he's just not 6'3 or taller. I also wouldn't put t.y Hilton on that list at all.
No one but a Steeler fan would list Brown as good as Megatron, Green, or Fitz.
While I did not list them in order when I wrote it down, the website I took this from had him at #10, behind all those others.
No one but a Steeler fan would list Brown as good as Megatron, Green, or Fitz.
While I did not list them in order when I wrote it down, the website I took this from had him at #10, behind all those others.
K. Let's just wait until this season is over and we'll see where he rates.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Brown may be concussed
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Steelers looking like all kinds of dog shit I love it.
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Gilbert gives up another sack. Jesus Christ, that's 3 in 2 games I believe. But according to Vag, this Steelers Oline is much improved. Lol, what a joke.
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I love watching the Squeelers D get called for the illegal hits they make.
And if you started Owen Daniels in fantasy.. you're both lucky and a genius.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Gilbert gives up another sack. Jesus Christ, that's 3 in 2 games I believe. But according to Vag, this Steelers Oline is much improved. Lol, what a joke.
Gilbert gives up another sack. Jesus Christ, that's 3 in 2 games I believe. But according to Vag, this Steelers Oline is much improved. Lol, what a joke.
I have him at 4 in a game and a 1/2....but who's counting(not vag).....
Bet the squealers would trade for Schwartz in a heart beat......
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I love watching the Squeelers D get called for the illegal hits they make.
And if you started Owen Daniels in fantasy.. you're both lucky and a genius.
I love watching the Squeelers D get called for the illegal hits they make.
And if you started Owen Daniels in fantasy.. you're both lucky and a genius.
I might hate the Steelers, but I love defense and the game itself. That first call was pure bullshit. The second was still too damn close to call.
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I love watching the Squeelers D get called for the illegal hits they make.
And if you started Owen Daniels in fantasy.. you're both lucky and a genius.
I love watching the Squeelers D get called for the illegal hits they make.
And if you started Owen Daniels in fantasy.. you're both lucky and a genius.
I dropped him in my one league. I picked him up in the very last round of the draft too. With all the talk of Pitta, I figured he wasn't worth holding on to. Might just be one good lucky week for him?
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I love watching the Squeelers D get called for the illegal hits they make.
And if you started Owen Daniels in fantasy.. you're both lucky and a genius.
I might hate the Steelers, but I love defense and the game itself. That first call was pure bullshit. The second was still too damn close to call.
I might hate the Steelers, but I love defense and the game itself. That first call was pure bullshit. The second was still too damn close to call.
You're referring to Polamalu's hit? And then (I forget who) but the 2nd one right after? I thought the 2nd one was a quite a bit iffy. The first one was helmet to helmet hit on Owen Daniels. Not that bad of a hit since he held onto the ball and got up right away, but in today's NFL that's a no-no.
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No one but a Steeler fan would list Brown as good as Megatron, Green, or Fitz.
While I did not list them in order when I wrote it down, the website I took this from had him at #10, behind all those others.
K. Let's just wait until this season is over and we'll see where he rates.
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I might hate the Steelers, but I love defense and the game itself. That first call was pure bullshit. The second was still too damn close to call.
You're referring to Polamalu's hit? And then (I forget who) but the 2nd one right after? I thought the 2nd one was a quite a bit iffy. The first one was helmet to helmet hit on Owen Daniels. Not that bad of a hit since he held onto the ball and got up right away, but in today's NFL that's a no-no.
You're referring to Polamalu's hit? And then (I forget who) but the 2nd one right after? I thought the 2nd one was a quite a bit iffy. The first one was helmet to helmet hit on Owen Daniels. Not that bad of a hit since he held onto the ball and got up right away, but in today's NFL that's a no-no.
OK, on the hits, there were 4 in that game:
A. The penalty call on the BR sack in the first minute of the game was complete BS. That was a textbook hit. It was a very hard hit....and I guess it is a penalty now just to hit a QB too hard....even though it was otherwise completely legal.
B. The Ravens hit Brown and knocked him out for a while. There, a penalty probably should have been called but wasn't. That was a forearm to the head.
C. Polamalu's hit was a legit penalty. He hit him with the crown of his helmet into the other players head.
D. The followup call on the Steeler DB (can't recall the name), to me was BS. He hit his shoulder into the receivers shoulder. It was just a hard hit. It was not a hit to the head or neck. Again, sorry, when is just a clean hard hit illegal?
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