Ravens Week: 2014 Part 1
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For us to win this game, our tackling HAS to improve.
Allowing a receiver to gain 15-20 yards after the catch because we're not wrapping up and
bringing the runner down is eventually going to catch up to us.
I watched the Steeler/Ravens game last Thursday, and the one thing that got my
attention was that when Antonio Brown or Heath Miller caught a pass, they were
immediately hit hard and brought down on the spot. It doesn't stop with our DB's--
I've seen the front seven allow several 2 or 3 yard losses become 1 or 2 yard or no gains.
It's worrisome to me because poor tackling isn't something that normally suddenly improves
in the middle of the season.
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Both Suggs and Dumervil are one trick ponies at this stage in their careers. Dumervil absued Gilbert with the bullrush, because...well that fuckin' guy can't maintain his leverage.
Here's some words for hope. The Ravens had zero sacks and zero turnovers against the Bungles. While I will concede that Cincy has a fine team this year, their Oline isn't much better than ours.
On defense, stop the early down runs, watch the play action to Pitta and Daniels. I think our CB's match up well with the dirty birds.
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For us to win this game, our tackling HAS to improve.
Allowing a receiver to gain 15-20 yards after the catch because we're not wrapping up and
bringing the runner down is eventually going to catch up to us.
I watched the Steeler/Ravens game last Thursday, and the one thing that got my
attention was that when Antonio Brown or Heath Miller caught a pass, they were
immediately hit hard and brought down on the spot. It doesn't stop with our DB's--
I've seen the front seven allow several 2 or 3 yard losses become 1 or 2 yard or no gains.
It's worrisome to me because poor tackling isn't something that normally suddenly improves
in the middle of the season.
For us to win this game, our tackling HAS to improve.
It's worrisome to me because poor tackling isn't something that normally suddenly improves
in the middle of the season.
The tackling looked better just from game one to game two. While it's not perfect, I dont see it as a huge problem either.
Lucky thing it's only the second game and not the 'middle of the season'.
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Both Suggs and Dumervil are one trick ponies at this stage in their careers. Dumervil absued Gilbert with the bullrush, because...well that fuckin' guy can't maintain his leverage.
Here's some words for hope. The Ravens had zero sacks and zero turnovers against the Bungles. While I will concede that Cincy has a fine team this year, their Oline isn't much better than ours.
On defense, stop the early down runs, watch the play action to Pitta and Daniels. I think our CB's match up well with the dirty birds.
On defense, stop the early down runs, watch the play action to Pitta and Daniels. I think our CB's match up well with the dirty birds.
Stop run and guard against PAP is easier said than done.
Do you have a preference on our CB/ bird WR match-ups?
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Both Suggs and Dumervil are one trick ponies at this stage in their careers. Dumervil absued Gilbert with the bullrush, because...well that fuckin' guy can't maintain his leverage.
Here's some words for hope. The Ravens had zero sacks and zero turnovers against the Bungles. While I will concede that Cincy has a fine team this year, their Oline isn't much better than ours.
On defense, stop the early down runs, watch the play action to Pitta and Daniels. I think our CB's match up well with the dirty birds.
Both Suggs and Dumervil are one trick ponies at this stage in their careers. Dumervil absued Gilbert with the bullrush, because...well that fuckin' guy can't maintain his leverage.
Here's some words for hope. The Ravens had zero sacks and zero turnovers against the Bungles. While I will concede that Cincy has a fine team this year, their Oline isn't much better than ours.
On defense, stop the early down runs, watch the play action to Pitta and Daniels. I think our CB's match up well with the dirty birds.
Bungles haven't given up a sack in two games and Andy Dalton was not hit once against Atlanta ... Not touched once. No wonder that Falcons guy wants our pass rushers.
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Stop run and guard against PAP is easier said than done.
Do you have a preference on our CB/ bird WR match-ups?
If this Dline is as good as some say and the issue is schematic, then stopping the run should be a task their up for.
As for my personal preference, Haden on Smitty, Skrine/Gilbert on Torrey. Smitty has lost a stop but he's still strong as an ox and that's right up Haden's alley.
Also, Flacco seems to have built a great rapport with him, hence the high targets.
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This game worries me alot. I think bmores run defense may be the first big task for this offense. And this offense is predicated off running the football and play action. If you cant run the ball play action doesnt work. Also the browns run defense has been REALLY bad and bmore is now running the same offense as the browns, kubiak is one of shanny jrs mentors, gary k learned from shanny sr in denver. If any of you watched the steeler raven game then u saw bmore run the ball at will with the zone scheme vs stoolers. I see the defense keeping them close but its gonna be tough. Hoyer will have to really step up to win this game and having cameron in the lineup will be huge. I think we win this one by screen plays and taking some shots deep. Also the defense must stop the run and flacos big play ability. Gonna be a really tough one.
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This game worries me alot. I think bmores run defense may be the first big task for this offense. And this offense is predicated off running the football and play action. If you cant run the ball play action doesnt work. Also the browns run defense has been REALLY bad and bmore is now running the same offense as the browns, kubiak is one of shanny jrs mentors, gary k learned from shanny sr in denver. If any of you watched the steeler raven game then u saw bmore run the ball at will with the zone scheme vs stoolers. I see the defense keeping them close but its gonna be tough. Hoyer will have to really step up to win this game and having cameron in the lineup will be huge. I think we win this one by screen plays and taking some shots deep. Also the defense must stop the run and flacos big play ability. Gonna be a really tough one.
This game worries me alot. I think bmores run defense may be the first big task for this offense. And this offense is predicated off running the football and play action. If you cant run the ball play action doesnt work. Also the browns run defense has been REALLY bad and bmore is now running the same offense as the browns, kubiak is one of shanny jrs mentors, gary k learned from shanny sr in denver. If any of you watched the steeler raven game then u saw bmore run the ball at will with the zone scheme vs stoolers. I see the defense keeping them close but its gonna be tough. Hoyer will have to really step up to win this game and having cameron in the lineup will be huge. I think we win this one by screen plays and taking some shots deep. Also the defense must stop the run and flacos big play ability. Gonna be a really tough one.
To the contrary, having an OC with intimate knowledge of the opposing offenses mindset will work wonders for both sides DC. It basically comes down to play makers making plays at that point. I'm hoping the defense takes the next step forward. I would expect a low(er) scoring affair this go around.
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Both Suggs and Dumervil are one trick ponies at this stage in their careers. Dumervil absued Gilbert with the bullrush, because...well that fuckin' guy can't maintain his leverage.
Here's some words for hope. The Ravens had zero sacks and zero turnovers against the Bungles. While I will concede that Cincy has a fine team this year, their Oline isn't much better than ours.
On defense, stop the early down runs, watch the play action to Pitta and Daniels. I think our CB's match up well with the dirty birds.
Bungles haven't given up a sack in two games and Andy Dalton was not hit once against Atlanta ... Not touched once. No wonder that Falcons guy wants our pass rushers.
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Zombo said:
Bungles haven't given up a sack in two games and Andy Dalton was not hit once against Atlanta ... Not touched once. No wonder that Falcons guy wants our pass rushers.
Well... maybe once...
Andy got popped pretty good on his TD pass to Sanu. Took an all-out blitz to get to him, but they did. Gingers the world over are proud of how one of theirs stood in there...
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This game worries me alot. I think bmores run defense may be the first big task for this offense. And this offense is predicated off running the football and play action. If you cant run the ball play action doesnt work. Also the browns run defense has been REALLY bad and bmore is now running the same offense as the browns, kubiak is one of shanny jrs mentors, gary k learned from shanny sr in denver. If any of you watched the steeler raven game then u saw bmore run the ball at will with the zone scheme vs stoolers. I see the defense keeping them close but its gonna be tough. Hoyer will have to really step up to win this game and having cameron in the lineup will be huge. I think we win this one by screen plays and taking some shots deep. Also the defense must stop the run and flacos big play ability. Gonna be a really tough one.
... kubiak is one of shanny jrs mentors, gary k learned from shanny sr in denver. If any of you watched the steeler raven game then u saw bmore run the ball at will with the zone scheme vs stoolers. I see the defense keeping them close but its gonna be tough. Hoyer will have to really step up to win this game and having cameron in the lineup will be huge. I think we win this one by screen plays and taking some shots deep. Also the defense must stop the run and flacos big play ability. Gonna be a really tough one.
Well... I was starting to feel better...
Good point on Kubiak...
Very tough...
Very even...
Game just may come down to home field and our crowd getting loud.
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Pettines press conference today was very telling. He was asked if the shanny and kubiak offenses were the same? He said that the running schemes and play action boots are very similar but the 3rd down passing is very different. He didnt say but plus I dont think kubiak runs the pistol. He also said the saint running success was by design because theyd rather give up the run than big plays to bress. so he sounded fairly confident in the run defense, but ill believe it when I see it.
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Pettines press conference today was very telling. He was asked if the shanny and kubiak offenses were the same? He said that the running schemes and play action boots are very similar but the 3rd down passing is very different. He didnt say but plus I dont think kubiak runs the pistol. He also said the saint running success was by design because theyd rather give up the run than big plays to bress. so he sounded fairly confident in the run defense, but ill believe it when I see it.
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Pettine challenged the fans to be loud this past week and I will say FE Stadium was the loudest I have ever heard it, now we need to knock the roof off the place and make it so loud their offense can't hear a thing Flacco is saying.
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hmmm......I now see that the Sunday weather forecast looks pretty bad....80% chance of thunderstorms....could be a good old fashioned mud bowl.....
AND....The last four times that Baltiwhore played in Cleveland, Flacco did not put up good passing yardage....
2013 = 250 yds
2012 = 150 yds
2011 = 158 yds
2010 = 102 yds
So....his history here....plus a good rainy day.....makes for some smash mouth style running and defense.....
Originally, I had us winning 24-13........but if it's pouring rain and a messy muddy game....I'd adjust, but still give it to the Browns 17-10
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I think the Browns will win. Especially at home. Unless Flacco gets one of his PI calls that he gets almost every game, I don't see them moving the ball very effectively against your defense.
I honestly don't know why Baltimore and Pittsburgh got so much love in the offseason. It's clear to me that the Bengals and Browns are the best two teams in the division now. I know you guys dropped the opener to the Steelers, but, I still don't think the Steelers will sniff better than 8-8.
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I think the Browns will win. Especially at home. Unless Flacco gets one of his PI calls that he gets almost every game, I don't see them moving the ball very effectively against your defense.
I honestly don't know why Baltimore and Pittsburgh got so much love in the offseason. It's clear to me that the Bengals and Browns are the best two teams in the division now. I know you guys dropped the opener to the Steelers, but, I still don't think the Steelers will sniff better than 8-8.
I think the Browns will win. Especially at home. Unless Flacco gets one of his PI calls that he gets almost every game, I don't see them moving the ball very effectively against your defense.
I honestly don't know why Baltimore and Pittsburgh got so much love in the offseason. It's clear to me that the Bengals and Browns are the best two teams in the division now. I know you guys dropped the opener to the Steelers, but, I still don't think the Steelers will sniff better than 8-8.
Media outlets often lag behind the times. Yes, the Steelers were in 3 SBs since 2000, and yes the Ravens have won 2 SBs in the 2000s, so that deference to the teams that have been good lately is hard to get over. Yes, in fact, the Bengals have been the overall better team in the division for like the last 3-4 years. But they have not done anything in the postseason as have the Steelers and Ravens. So they are not getting respect.
Plus, yes, I agree that I think the Browns have about as much talent as any team in the division, but they are not going to be given any credit since they can't get past the 4-5 win level for the last 6 years. The natural assumption is that they will continue to lose to those other two who have had success. Of course, the burden of proof is on the Browns to show they aren't the same old losers. Not being able to pull the game out against the Steeler solidifies the image of the "can't win when the chips are down" belief. Pulling the game out against the Saints goes a little bit to overcoming that image.....but they ahve to keep it up.
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It would have been hard though for any sports media outlet to have a sunny forecast on the upcoming Browns season given that we stink every year and, more importantly, had changed over our coaching staff again after 1 year.
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hmmm......I now see that the Sunday weather forecast looks pretty bad....80% chance of thunderstorms....could be a good old fashioned mud bowl.....
AND....The last four times that Baltiwhore played in Cleveland, Flacco did not put up good passing yardage....
2013 = 250 yds
2012 = 150 yds
2011 = 158 yds
2010 = 102 yds
So....his history here....plus a good rainy day.....makes for some smash mouth style running and defense.....
Originally, I had us winning 24-13........but if it's pouring rain and a messy muddy game....I'd adjust, but still give it to the Browns 17-10
hmmm......I now see that the Sunday weather forecast looks pretty bad....80% chance of thunderstorms....could be a good old fashioned mud bowl.....
So 80% chance of a game delay?
When was our last mud bowl? A soggy Heinz field??? Which was about every Sunday in the fall for its first few years.
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It would have been hard though for any sports media outlet to have a sunny forecast on the upcoming Browns season given that we stink every year and, more importantly, had changed over our coaching staff again after 1 year.
It would have been hard though for any sports media outlet to have a sunny forecast on the upcoming Browns season given that we stink every year and, more importantly, had changed over our coaching staff again after 1 year.
There was that and there was Hoyer passing to Miles Austin, Hawkins and ???
They saw a passing attack that was not very good losing it's best weapon. Hoyer didn't make anyone's top-30 QB list. And nobody likes Haden nearly as much as Browns fans do.
All I wanted to see out of this season was progress. There's a good team here that I suspect will be better halfway through the season than we've seen so far. And so far, so good IMO,
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