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  • Hoyer was very good today. Haden is still on his summer holidays.

    @londonbrown said:

    Hoyer was very good today. Haden is still on his summer holidays.

    He was good the first half, not so good the second half.

  • Hoyer was very good today. Haden is still on his summer holidays.

    @londonbrown said:

    Hoyer was very good today. Haden is still on his summer holidays.

    I've been saying it for years Haden is not an elite cb. He gets beat at the end of games all the time. The other teams pick on him.

    He's an ok cb and maybe even a little above average. But when it's crunch time he fails way way way too much

  • They definitely had a chance to turn the culture of losing. A good team rams TDs into the endzone after a turnover. A good team doesn't have a WR fall and then get a FG blocked. Those 2 series resulted in a shaky 21-17 lead, which could have been 35-17 lead.

    Plus, year after year, we let Flacco go into the locker room with the cleanest game jersey. The Browns missed the memo that 30 other NFL teams got....put heat on Flacco & you win.

  • They definitely had a chance to turn the culture of losing. A good team rams TDs into the endzone after a turnover. A good team doesn't have a WR fall and then get a FG blocked. Those 2 series resulted in a shaky 21-17 lead, which could have been 35-17 lead.

    Plus, year after year, we let Flacco go into the locker room with the cleanest game jersey. The Browns missed the memo that 30 other NFL teams got....put heat on Flacco & you win.

    @bob806 said:

    They definitely had a chance to turn the culture of losing. A good team rams TDs into the endzone after a turnover. A good team doesn't have a WR fall and then get a FG blocked. Those 2 series resulted in a shaky 21-17 lead, which could have been 35-17 lead.

    Plus, year after year, we let Flacco go into the locker room with the cleanest game jersey. The Browns missed the memo that 30 other NFL teams got....put heat on Flacco & you win.

    No sacks and only 3 qb pressures, and 1 of those was the pick. Terrible job by the defense at getting to the QB

  • Only kruger is getting any joy rushing. Mingo was horrible today

  • Bingo?

  • Mingo sucked today

    So did special fucking teams

    What the fuck chris tabor ?

  • "The dawg pound got me, wind was stiff"

    Billy Cundiff can find a new job

  • Hoyer played good today.

    That trick play to Manzel was pretty cool.

    if Haden is an elite CB in the league then someone should tell the the opposing QB's around the league so they quit making him look like an ass every week.

  • You guys who are blaming this on Hoyer are absolutely ridiculous. If we make just one of the field goals then the ravens have to get in the endzone on that last drive and who knows what happens. Hoyer has been very stellar in the three games thus far. I hope the browns coaching staff can see this unlike some of you.

  • That "cool trick play" was illegal from its concept. There was no reason on earth to switch to Little League ball, when we were running it so well, and using that to play action pass so well....... No reason at all. Shanny needs to figure out this offense's identity and do it quickly. We have an outstanding 1-2 punch in West & Crowell, and a QB that has yet to throw a pick in 3 games. Doesn't take a genius, does it?

    Fuckin' trick plays....SMH

  • hoyer has been solid. The offensive play calling has been questionable. The defense could be coached alot better

  • hoyer has been solid. The offensive play calling has been questionable. The defense could be coached alot better

    @lbc-mike said:

    hoyer has been solid. The offensive play calling has been questionable. The defense could be coached alot better

    Exactly. Hoyer isn't the problem.

    The defense is aweful. They continue to get burned on misdirection plays, and they still have tackling issues. And when the game is on the line, just look for whoever Joe Haden is on and throw it there because he continues to get burned.

  • the only statistic that counts is scoring more points than the other team....the good teams average about 28 points a game.....obviously some times they exceed that and sometimes they score less....but if you can average 28 points a game over the season you will likely make the playoffs....

    that said...it always sucks to lose the close ones.....

  • The offense was great most of the game, but started to fizzle out at the end when it counted. The defense fizzled out during the national anthem.

  • We won one game. Manziel?

    @atenears said:

    We won one game. Manziel?

    Giving up on the season already? Because that or a Hoyer injury is the only way Manziel starts this year.

    Our D can't stop the run. The Ravens 4th string RB gashed us for 91 yds on 18 carries and their 3rd down back added 63 on 11. Time for Pettine to retake control of his D...

    Worst I can say about the Offense is that Shanny got too cute too often tooday...

    He established a good ground and passing attack only to follow it up with tickeration after trickeration. Whatever measure of respect we earned form our opponent with our play was pissed away by our play calling.

  • We won one game. Manziel?

    @atenears said:

    We won one game. Manziel?

    I hope you are joking. Hoyer has been solid and isnt turning the ball over. He is definitely not the reason we are losing games. You can hang that squarely on the D and special teams

    @westside-steve said:

    Maybe let's not let Brian Hoyer throw the ball in crunch time...

    WSS

    Steve surely that is sarcasm?? I mean wasn't it Hoyer that led the winning drive in crunch time last week against the Saints? Yes it was.

    @browns149 said:

    No sacks and only 3 qb pressures, and 1 of those was the pick. Terrible job by the defense at getting to the QB

    Amen!!

    @typicalbrowns said:

    Mingo sucked today

    So did special fucking teams

    What the fuck chris tabor ?

    Why the fuck is Chris Tabor still here even? Him and his squad suck balls

    @typicalbrowns said:

    "The dawg pound got me, wind was stiff"

    Billy Cundiff can find a new job

    I still cannot fathom why Cundiff is our kicker. Surely there are other options that are as good or better.

  • @atenears said:

    We won one game. Manziel?

    I hope you are joking. Hoyer has been solid and isnt turning the ball over. He is definitely not the reason we are losing games. You can hang that squarely on the D and special teams

    @westside-steve said:

    Maybe let's not let Brian Hoyer throw the ball in crunch time...

    WSS

    Steve surely that is sarcasm?? I mean wasn't it Hoyer that led the winning drive in crunch time last week against the Saints? Yes it was.

    @browns149 said:

    No sacks and only 3 qb pressures, and 1 of those was the pick. Terrible job by the defense at getting to the QB

    Amen!!

    @typicalbrowns said:

    Mingo sucked today

    So did special fucking teams

    What the fuck chris tabor ?

    Why the fuck is Chris Tabor still here even? Him and his squad suck balls

    @typicalbrowns said:

    "The dawg pound got me, wind was stiff"

    Billy Cundiff can find a new job

    I still cannot fathom why Cundiff is our kicker. Surely there are other options that are as good or better.

    @jcam222 said:

    I hope you are joking. Hoyer has been solid and isnt turning the ball over. He is definitely not the reason we are losing games. You can hang that squarely on the D and special teams.

    Yeah, I was simply joking about Hoyer, but I did try to keep everyone grounded this week and focus on the fact that we still have a long, long way to go. Maybe we can put down the Pom-poms this week and discuss football.

  • @jcam222 said:

    I hope you are joking. Hoyer has been solid and isnt turning the ball over. He is definitely not the reason we are losing games. You can hang that squarely on the D and special teams.

    Yeah, I was simply joking about Hoyer, but I did try to keep everyone grounded this week and focus on the fact that we still have a long, long way to go. Maybe we can put down the Pom-poms this week and discuss football.

    @atenears said:

    Maybe we can put down the Pom-poms this week and discuss football.

    I thought everyone knew Pom poms aren't allowed in bye-weeks...

  • Sarcasm?

    Not quite.

    Two games when running the ball probably would have taken enough time to be in position to win. Steelers and Ravens. Both time he threw in crunch time both times failed.

    Joe H missing his man by a country mile hurt too but it probably shouldn't have gotten to that

    WSS