Billy Cundiff
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It was our biggest need since Dawson left then we signed him like a week before our opener last year. Phil had a blocked kick today also.
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Phil did long distance better than AT&T.
Anybody else missing Brad Seely?
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Sorry... not hanging this one on Billy.
Doinked a low-snap induced, dubious spot and had a FG blocked by a superb edge rush.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Sorry... not hanging this one on Billy.
Doinked a low-snap induced, dubious spot and had a FG blocked by a superb edge rush.
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Sorry... not hanging this one on Billy.
Doinked a low-snap induced, dubious spot and had a FG blocked by a superb edge rush.
Sorry... not hanging this one on Billy.
Doinked a low-snap induced, dubious spot and had a FG blocked by a superb edge rush.
Bullsh**! Hes like career 2% from 50+. Its not his fault for taking a job in the NFL but this FO needs to end his career for him.
You cant dismiss this position. How many games are won by 3 or less points. How many times do you NEED 50+ to win/take a lead? Im sorry but if youre not top 5 offense and defense, you need to make it up by putting points on the board.
Game 1- we dont even try a 53 yarder with NO wind, and today we doink a 50 yarder. Id be okay with one or the other over the course of an entire season, but not twice in 3 weeks...
I hope we hear others coming in for tryouts during the bye week. Were not top 5 o or d, so theres going to be times we need our kicker to make a play
#Justsayin' -
Sorry... not hanging this one on Billy.
Doinked a low-snap induced, dubious spot and had a FG blocked by a superb edge rush.
Bullsh**! Hes like career 2% from 50+. Its not his fault for taking a job in the NFL but this FO needs to end his career for him.
You cant dismiss this position. How many games are won by 3 or less points. How many times do you NEED 50+ to win/take a lead? Im sorry but if youre not top 5 offense and defense, you need to make it up by putting points on the board.
Game 1- we dont even try a 53 yarder with NO wind, and today we doink a 50 yarder. Id be okay with one or the other over the course of an entire season, but not twice in 3 weeks...
I hope we hear others coming in for tryouts during the bye week. Were not top 5 o or d, so theres going to be times we need our kicker to make a play
Bullsh**! Hes like career 2% from 50+. Its not his fault for taking a job in the NFL but this FO needs to end his career for him.
You cant dismiss this position. How many games are won by 3 or less points. How many times do you NEED 50+ to win/take a lead? Im sorry but if youre not top 5 offense and defense, you need to make it up by putting points on the board.
Game 1- we dont even try a 53 yarder with NO wind, and today we doink a 50 yarder. Id be okay with one or the other over the course of an entire season, but not twice in 3 weeks...
I hope we hear others coming in for tryouts during the bye week. Were not top 5 o or d, so theres going to be times we need our kicker to make a play
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Cundiff is no Dawson but Yount has been sending some knuckle balls to the holder as of late. Lets hope its correctable
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Sorry... not hanging this one on Billy.
Doinked a low-snap induced, dubious spot and had a FG blocked by a superb edge rush.
Bullsh**! Hes like career 2% from 50+. Its not his fault for taking a job in the NFL but this FO needs to end his career for him.
You cant dismiss this position. How many games are won by 3 or less points. How many times do you NEED 50+ to win/take a lead? Im sorry but if youre not top 5 offense and defense, you need to make it up by putting points on the board.
Game 1- we dont even try a 53 yarder with NO wind, and today we doink a 50 yarder. Id be okay with one or the other over the course of an entire season, but not twice in 3 weeks...
I hope we hear others coming in for tryouts during the bye week. Were not top 5 o or d, so theres going to be times we need our kicker to make a play
You cant dismiss this position. How many games are won by 3 or less points. How many times do you NEED 50+ to win/take a lead? Im sorry but if youre not top 5 offense and defense, you need to make it up by putting points on the board.
Not dismissing the position, dismissing the "arguments" being made here...
The Doink was from 50, but the block was from 36. So what's your point on the latter?
And not attempting the late FG Week 1 was still the right call... IMO...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
You cant dismiss this position. How many games are won by 3 or less points. How many times do you NEED 50+ to win/take a lead? Im sorry but if youre not top 5 offense and defense, you need to make it up by putting points on the board.
Not dismissing the position, dismissing the "arguments" being made here...
The Doink was from 50, but the block was from 36. So what's your point on the latter?
And not attempting the late FG Week 1 was still the right call... IMO...
Not dismissing the position, dismissing the "arguments" being made here...
The Doink was from 50, but the block was from 36. So what's your point on the latter?
And not attempting the late FG Week 1 was still the right call... IMO...
The macro level point is that he is 21.8% career for FG's 50 and up. That is well below the average for NFL kickers in the last 10 years. We need a guy that can win us close games from the 50 and its not him.
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Not dismissing the position, dismissing the "arguments" being made here...
The Doink was from 50, but the block was from 36. So what's your point on the latter?
And not attempting the late FG Week 1 was still the right call... IMO...
The macro level point is that he is 21.8% career for FG's 50 and up. That is well below the average for NFL kickers in the last 10 years. We need a guy that can win us close games from the 50 and its not him.
The macro level point is that he is 21.8% career for FG's 50 and up. That is well below the average for NFL kickers in the last 10 years. We need a guy that can win us close games from the 50 and its not him.
What is the 50+ average?
How does Billy stack up 40-49? 30-39? etc.?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
What is the 50+ average?
How does Billy stack up 40-49? 30-39? etc.?
Here is an excerpt from a CBS news article written in 2010. I am sure its still as good or better. I will try to crunch his other numbers later but its the 50 and up that concern me. Basically Cundiff is stuck in the 70s for his long field goal ability.
The rise in precision from 50 yards and greater has been especially dramatic:
1960s: 13.1 percent
1970s: 21.6 percent
1980s: 35.6 percent
1990s: 47.8 percent
2000s: 53.0 percent
And this year (2010), it's better still: 55.9 percent.
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You cant dismiss this position. How many games are won by 3 or less points. How many times do you NEED 50+ to win/take a lead? Im sorry but if youre not top 5 offense and defense, you need to make it up by putting points on the board.
Not dismissing the position, dismissing the "arguments" being made here...
The Doink was from 50, but the block was from 36. So what's your point on the latter?
And not attempting the late FG Week 1 was still the right call... IMO...
Not dismissing the position, dismissing the "arguments" being made here...
The Doink was from 50, but the block was from 36. So what's your point on the latter?
And not attempting the late FG Week 1 was still the right call... IMO...
A block is not always on the kicker, but a doink is. He makes one or the other and we win...
We'll agree to disagree about the Steelers game
#Justsayin' -
Final 8 kickers in the playoffs last year. Career stats from 50+
Steven Hauschka 7 of 13 54%
Matt Prater 21 of 27 78%
Stephen Gostowski 12 of 16 75%
Phil Dawson 28 of 40 70%
Graham Gano 12 of 18 67%
Garrett Hartley 6 of 8 75%
Adam Vinatieri 20 of 38 53%
Nick Novak 9 of 15 60%
Billy Cundiff 7 of 27 26%
Kicker makes a difference. He's gotta go...
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Not dismissing the position, dismissing the "arguments" being made here...
The Doink was from 50, but the block was from 36. So what's your point on the latter?
And not attempting the late FG Week 1 was still the right call... IMO...
A block is not always on the kicker, but a doink is. He makes one or the other and we win...
We'll agree to disagree about the Steelers game
A block is not always on the kicker, but a doink is. He makes one or the other and we win...
We'll agree to disagree about the Steelers game
This block was definitely not on Billy. The Doink may not be either if the hold was "off", i.e., angled improperly, laces, etc.
I really cannot see the hold in the footage, but it had the distance so the contact was solid. The flight looked "funny" and that can be a sign of the hold being off.
As for agreeing to disagree... I'll think about it...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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