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  • Frenchie F Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    F Frenchie wrote on last edited by
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    I don't think this is a priority now - perhaps in the off season. But fixing the bad snaps is a priority. Can we get a statistic on the accuracy of snaps for PAT and field goals? Everyone seems way off target.

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      B bonedawg wrote on last edited by
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      ...Billy CuntLips.

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        ...Billy CuntLips.

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        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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        @bonedawg said:

        ...Billy CuntLips.

        you should copyright that. i don't think it's ever been used.

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          A Adoug319 wrote on last edited by
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          Billy Cuntsniff

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            @jcam222 said:

            The macro level point is that he is 21.8% career for FG's 50 and up. That is well below the average for NFL kickers in the last 10 years. We need a guy that can win us close games from the 50 and its not him.

            What is the 50+ average?

            How does Billy stack up 40-49? 30-39? etc.?

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            dawgpound101D dawgpound101 wrote on last edited by
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            @tour2ma said:

            What is the 50+ average?

            How does Billy stack up 40-49? 30-39? etc.?

            he does not stack up...

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              @miktoxic said:

              ask steve spurrier or bill parcells about kickers.

              you don't make it you're baggin groceries on monday.

              not blaming the L on cuntlips but if i'm not mistaken didn't he miss a chip shot xtra point last week?

              Why not blame it on Cundiff?? We played well enough to win but he didnt convert.

              And yes, he missed a PAT that almost costed us a game... jeesh

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              hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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              @thenew23 said:

              Why not blame it on Cundiff?? We played well enough to win but he didnt convert.

              And yes, he missed a PAT that almost costed us a game... jeesh

              Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

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                @thenew23 said:

                Why not blame it on Cundiff?? We played well enough to win but he didnt convert.

                And yes, he missed a PAT that almost costed us a game... jeesh

                Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

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                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                @hoorta said:

                Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

                ^this x1k

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                • KvoetheK Kvoethe

                  Bironas was available.

                  Im going to hell.

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                  marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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                  @kvoethe said:

                  Bironas was available.

                  Im going to hell.

                  Yes sir you are. Don't worry I'll be right there too because I laughed when I read it.

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                  • TopDawg31T TopDawg31

                    Cundiff is no Dawson but Yount has been sending some knuckle balls to the holder as of late. Lets hope its correctable

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                    djdawg2010D djdawg2010 wrote on last edited by
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                    @topdawg31 said:

                    Cundiff is no Dawson but Yount has been sending some knuckle balls to the holder as of late. Lets hope its correctable

                    I remember a few years back a certain long snapper was cut for doing something similar. And Phil Dawson was the kicker.

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                    • F Frenchie

                      I don't think this is a priority now - perhaps in the off season. But fixing the bad snaps is a priority. Can we get a statistic on the accuracy of snaps for PAT and field goals? Everyone seems way off target.

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                      jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                      @frenchie said:

                      I don't think this is a priority now - perhaps in the off season. But fixing the bad snaps is a priority. Can we get a statistic on the accuracy of snaps for PAT and field goals? Everyone seems way off target.

                      insuring we don't lose several more games due to botched has to be a priority period.
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                        @thenew23 said:

                        Why not blame it on Cundiff?? We played well enough to win but he didnt convert.

                        And yes, he missed a PAT that almost costed us a game... jeesh

                        Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

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                        jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                        @hoorta said:

                        Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

                        for the few times you are referring to we can show you 20+ other plays where the executed very well. That is not true for the FG unit. Bring I'm a snapper and a kicker for all I care but fix it.
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                          OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                          Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

                          2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

                          2012: Brad Smelley, FB

                          2011: Eric Hagg, DB

                          2008: Alex Hall, LB

                          2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

                          2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

                          Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

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                          • F Frenchie

                            I don't think this is a priority now - perhaps in the off season. But fixing the bad snaps is a priority. Can we get a statistic on the accuracy of snaps for PAT and field goals? Everyone seems way off target.

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                            A Alkid3 wrote on last edited by
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                            @frenchie said:

                            I don't think this is a priority now - perhaps in the off season. But fixing the bad snaps is a priority. Can we get a statistic on the accuracy of snaps for PAT and field goals? Everyone seems way off target.

                            How is it not priority? A couple of points was the difference in all 3 games.

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                              A Alkid3 wrote on last edited by
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                              Yes the bad snaps needs to be fixed as well but if my kicker can't hit a 50+ field goal in 2014 it's a problem

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                                @thenew23 said:

                                Why not blame it on Cundiff?? We played well enough to win but he didnt convert.

                                And yes, he missed a PAT that almost costed us a game... jeesh

                                Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

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                                thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                                @hoorta said:

                                Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

                                I agree. But, if he makes one of those field goals, we're not having the discussion about how we should have gotten one first down... it can go both ways...

                                #Justsayin'
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                                • OsirisO Osiris

                                  Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

                                  2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

                                  2012: Brad Smelley, FB

                                  2011: Eric Hagg, DB

                                  2008: Alex Hall, LB

                                  2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

                                  2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

                                  Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

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                                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                  @osiris said:

                                  Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

                                  2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

                                  2012: Brad Smelley, FB

                                  2011: Eric Hagg, DB

                                  2008: Alex Hall, LB

                                  2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

                                  2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

                                  Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

                                  You have a point

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                                  • OsirisO Osiris

                                    Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

                                    2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

                                    2012: Brad Smelley, FB

                                    2011: Eric Hagg, DB

                                    2008: Alex Hall, LB

                                    2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

                                    2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

                                    Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

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                                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                    @osiris said:

                                    Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick.

                                    Agree... even higher if kicker is truly exceptional.

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                                      thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                                      Lions just changed kickers. I expect us to do the same

                                      #Justsayin'
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                                        TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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                                        There has to be at least a 1000 UDFA kickers that graduate every year, lets go Farmer youv'e been gold with those UDFA's find us another long snapper while your at it

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                                        • A Alkid3

                                          There has to be a better kicker that can hit field goals better than this guy. Every time he gets ready to kick I feel like he's got a 25% chance to make it from wherever. I remember him falling down getting ready to kick against the Bengals last year when they won. Cundiff looked like a fool. And still does.

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                                          V Vers wrote on last edited by
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                                          @alkid3 said:

                                          There has to be a better kicker that can hit field goals better than this guy. Every time he gets ready to kick I feel like he's got a 25% chance to make it from wherever. I remember him falling down getting ready to kick against the Bengals last year when they won. Cundiff looked like a fool. And still does.

                                          I only read the first half-dozen posts on this thread. With that said.....I think you guys are whacked.

                                          Cundiff had an excellent year last year. His kickoffs are deep.

                                          Neither FG miss was his fault yesterday. The first one had a low snap that Lanning had a hard time handling. He got it in position way too late and Cundiff still hit the crossbar from 50. How he did that.......I don't know. The second one was blocked because Tabor is an idiot. The Rats overloaded our offensive right side and the dude blew right by Winn. Btw............why the fuck is Winn our wing guy? He is way too slow for that spot.

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