I can see us ripping off 5 straight wins in a row now before the Cincy game
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The difference is, there are no glaring weaknesses to this team as far
as personel goes.
Adjustments, which every team has to be able to do, will come. Who was it
in football that said it takes about 3 years to get an offense system down?
well, the Browns have only had three games that count.
Look at how badly the squeelers lost to the ratbirds. 26--6.
The Browns lost by another late field goal twice now, to both.
This is a different football team, one that is geared up to start winning.
Enough with all the negativity...
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I think we'll be 4-4 going into cincy game, and ill be fuckin happy with that after losing 2 games of of 3 that we easily could've won.
If our D nuts up a bit, we can beat anyone. Double edge, we could lose to Tampa or Oakland too. Tough team to predict.
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I think the Browns are improved, but I wouldn't predict much. It's a young team with a new coaching staff. I was expecting a lot of 17-14 games this season, and so far that's way off.
I want to believe that Pettine can get the defense fixed. We haven't been good at stopping TEs on pass routes, or stopping the run since the return. Like Crennel, the D is this guy's calling card. If he doesn't fix it, he knows he's a short-timer.
Once the Browns start figuring out ways to win home games instead of losing them, it's going to be a struggle on all road games. We look like a better team than Tennessee right now, they have to win this game. If they don't, the season may unravel.
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Problem is, we've not been great after the Bye.
Last time we won after the Bye was 2010.
Last year we went into the Bye 3-2, and came out as flat and lifeless as I've seen.
Unless they break out the Cattle Prods and stick 'em up the D's ass, I don't much reason to expect us to come out anything other than flat again.
The surprise to me so far has been the O, much better than expected, but I thought Hoyer was a capable QB.
The D is surprise too, in that it is just so bad, and the Stat's are backing that up (Horton always liked to break those out last year).
Special Teams - early every year we wonder how on Earth Tabor is still here, then by late year (when it doesn't matter anymore) they show up.
Problem is, we've not been great after the Bye.
Last time we won after the Bye was 2010.
Nor the other 16 weeks since 2010...
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Nor the other 16 weeks since 2010...
True.
The point I was trying to make was last year after the Bye we came out Flat, Fireless, and Lifeless.
Can't say for sure if that was the case the other years, but after a loss like we just had and the way we opened the Season - wouldn't surprise me a bit.
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Titans
Steels
Jags
Raiders
Bucs
...then Cincy
We are seething, the team is mad and know they could very easily be 3-0. They are going to take these inferior teams coming up behind the shed and whoop the freaking tar out of them.
6-2 going into Cincy. Book it.
Titans
Steels
Jags
Raiders
Bucs
...then Cincy
We are seething, the team is mad and know they could very easily be 3-0. They are going to take these inferior teams coming up behind the shed and whoop the freaking tar out of them.
6-2 going into Cincy. Book it.
If you insist on getting blazed before you come on the Board, then I'll have to insist that you bring
enough for the rest of us.
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Zombo is going to have to change Soju's Avatar.
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Zombo is going to have to change Soju's Avatar.
Zombo is going to have to change Soju's Avatar.
To Tommy Chong.
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Zombo is going to have to change Soju's Avatar.
To Tommy Chong.
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I've been wielding pom-poms a lot lately on this board, but I can't see 5 straight wins. Unless they flawlessly fix everything wrong over the bye.
Here's the thing, the toughest two opponents on that list right now are Titans and Steelers. And those are the most critical two games we must win.
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Why not?
Seriously?
This team looks at least .500 to me. They could just as easily be 3-0 as they could be 0-3. They've played 3 good opponents (no matter what their records say right now), and were one play from winning/losing each game.
I trully believe they can beat anybody... I'm not going to bet the farm on them winning the next 5, but I'm just saying, they can beat anybody the rest of the way out...
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Is this like opposite day or something?
I think we should start Johnny Manziel.
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Titans
Steels
Jags
Raiders
Bucs
...then Cincy
We are seething, the team is mad and know they could very easily be 3-0. They are going to take these inferior teams coming up behind the shed and whoop the freaking tar out of them.
6-2 going into Cincy. Book it.
Titans
Steels
Jags
Raiders
Bucs
...then Cincy
We are seething, the team is mad and know they could very easily be 3-0. They are going to take these inferior teams coming up behind the shed and whoop the freaking tar out of them.
6-2 going into Cincy. Book it.
u r right...if we don't win at least 4 out of those 5 games, we're in trouble....it doesn't get any easier than that.....
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If we have even average secondary play, this team is 2-1 or 3-0.
Our secondary is chopped liver.
If Haden pulls his head out of his ass and Gilbert realizes what planet he's on, we can beat anyone.
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why not??
stopping the run can be done with scheme change....
any less than 5-3 and youll get a chance to see a lot of new players.....
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Titans
Steels
Jags
Raiders
Bucs
...then Cincy
We are seething, the team is mad and know they could very easily be 3-0. They are going to take these inferior teams coming up behind the shed and whoop the freaking tar out of them.
6-2 going into Cincy. Book it.
Oh Jesus Christ, here we fuckin go. We shat our pants today and lost a game we HAD IN THE FUCKIN BAG before sharting multie times. Ill be optimistic when this team shows me they can finish, and finish consistently. They have never shown this, so your assumption is wishful thinking at best.
Hell ill be the first to say our roster is loaded, I think we have playoff talent on our team, but it doesn't mean shit if we continue to do stupid shit to lose games we outplayed our opponents In.
Today was a gut wrenching loss. Painful. There are no F'ing moral victories, and certainly no reason to assume we run off 5 straight against shitty teams.
There is no reason to assume we run off 5 straight against shitty teams.
PIT and CIN are not shitty teams.
PIT - BAL - CIN all have the same schedule against the same shitty teams as CLE does.
CLE already lost to PIT and BAL in spite of the fact that CLE could-have-or-should-have won at least one of those games.
The bottom line is that CLE is in last place after a heavy dose of inter-division games.
That's not a good place to be.
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Titans
Steels
Jags
Raiders
Bucs
...then Cincy
We are seething, the team is mad and know they could very easily be 3-0. They are going to take these inferior teams coming up behind the shed and whoop the freaking tar out of them.
6-2 going into Cincy. Book it.
Titans
Steels
Jags
Raiders
Bucs
...then Cincy
We are seething, the team is mad and know they could very easily be 3-0. They are going to take these inferior teams coming up behind the shed and whoop the freaking tar out of them.
6-2 going into Cincy. Book it.
I like the optimism and feel good going into this stretch.....we should at least be favored in all 5....
....they're definitely all winnable games. We always give cincy a run for their money, too.
I agree. Im sure something will happen somewhere,,,,but im looking for 4-1 and a solid thrashing of Pittspuke...
No, but I have a dream
Me too.....
PIT and CIN are not shitty teams.
PIT - BAL - CIN all have the same schedule against the same shitty teams as CLE does.
CLE already lost to PIT and BAL in spite of the fact that CLE could-have-or-should-have won at least one of those games.
The bottom line is that CLE is in last place after a heavy dose of inter-division games.
That's not a good place to be.
Cin isnt in the next 5 games and we'll beat Pittspuke. Bank on it.
In re to the schedule, they are close but NOT exactly the same. We have 14 the same, but Cleveland drew the Bills/Raiders, while Cinn got Broncos/Patriots(HUGE difference).....Ravens got Chargers/Dolphins(also better).....Stillers got Jets/Chiefs(slightly better).....
So, while it's only 2 games, thats really is a total of 6 games that we get an advantage over our divisional rivals....and in the NFL, those 2 games can easily be the difference between who wins in the end....
Conversely, the Squealers next 5 games are Jags, Browns,Texans, Colts , Ravens.....they could easily go 1-4....
In a month, the whole division could look completely different....and if the division plays fairly even, those 2 games could loom huge.....
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There is no reason to assume we run off 5 straight against shitty teams.
PIT and CIN are not shitty teams.
PIT - BAL - CIN all have the same schedule against the same shitty teams as CLE does.
CLE already lost to PIT and BAL in spite of the fact that CLE could-have-or-should-have won at least one of those games.
The bottom line is that CLE is in last place after a heavy dose of inter-division games.
That's not a good place to be.
PIT and CIN are not shitty teams.
PIT - BAL - CIN all have the same schedule against the same shitty teams as CLE does.
But PTG is well on their way to shitty. Just a Big Bent away...
Your notes on schedule and the 0-2 divisional hole we are in are valid points though.
Bigger issues are that CIN is really, really good and BLT is much better than expected.
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And the Hoyer-led Browns did so well against CIN last year at home. What have been their upgrades this year that make them even better?
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