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  • As far as a sunrise or sunset, they are all pretty much the same.....be it high on a mountain where you might see rise or set a hundered miles away or at sea level where the horizon might be 3 miles away....they are all the same....conditions dictate....the best I have seen all hand some cloud cover. It's a time, moment, and place thing.

  • As far as a sunrise or sunset, they are all pretty much the same.....be it high on a mountain where you might see rise or set a hundered miles away or at sea level where the horizon might be 3 miles away....they are all the same....conditions dictate....the best I have seen all hand some cloud cover. It's a time, moment, and place thing.

    @ballpeen said:

    As far as a sunrise or sunset, they are all pretty much the same.....be it high on a mountain where you might see rise or set a hundered miles away or at sea level where the horizon might be 3 miles away....they are all the same....conditions dictate....the best I have seen all hand some cloud cover. It's a time, moment, and place thing.

    While that is true, I think the thing that can set them apart is the setting. In my choice it was really all about the setting. I was on the tip of a peninsula, fairly high above cliffs below me, and with an Island with a lighthouse on it just adjacent to where the sun set.

    (Cape Flattery, Wash. with Tatoosh Island just offshore)

  • @ballpeen said:

    As far as a sunrise or sunset, they are all pretty much the same.....be it high on a mountain where you might see rise or set a hundered miles away or at sea level where the horizon might be 3 miles away....they are all the same....conditions dictate....the best I have seen all hand some cloud cover. It's a time, moment, and place thing.

    While that is true, I think the thing that can set them apart is the setting. In my choice it was really all about the setting. I was on the tip of a peninsula, fairly high above cliffs below me, and with an Island with a lighthouse on it just adjacent to where the sun set.

    (Cape Flattery, Wash. with Tatoosh Island just offshore)

    @the-gipper said:

    While that is true, I think the thing that can set them apart is the setting. In my choice it was really all about the setting. I was on the tip of a peninsula, fairly high above cliffs below me, and with an Island with a lighthouse on it just adjacent to where the sun set.

    (Cape Flattery, Wash. with Tatoosh Island just offshore)

    Atmospheric conditions as well - you can get some truly spectacular sunsets if the conditions are right like:

    06584-Sunset-over-lake-in-Scotland.jpg

  • Yea, pollution helps with some great sunsets 😕 It really does.

  • Here was a line from my original list:

    Best Small Town: Woodstock, Vermont. (honorable mentions: Chatham, Mass. Seaside Fla)

    I spent my 30th anniversary trip with my wife in Vermont this summer....and we stayed not too far from Woodstock...and I can confirm my original vote whole heartedly that this is my choice for best small town in America.

    Top 5 in that category are: Woodstock VT, Chagrin Falls, OH, Seaside Fla., Wellsboro PA, Cooperstown NY. (Chatham falls off, I was there fairly recently and it didn't have that "it" for me that the others did.

  • War of 1812 Battlesites I have been to:

    Lake Erie//Put-In-Bay

    Ft. McHenry

    Mackinaw Island

    Washington DC and environs

    @the-gipper said:

    War of 1812 Battlesites I have been to:

    Lake Erie//Put-In-Bay

    Ft. McHenry

    Mackinaw Island

    Washington DC and environs

    I have since been also to the River Raisin Battlefield in Monroe, Mich. Sackett's Harbor in New York state.

  • French and Indian War Battlefields I have visited:

    Braddock Expedition, Wester PA

    Fort Necessity

    Fort Carillon/Fort Ticonderoga (Carillon was the French name for the same fort)

    Ft. William Henry

    Lake George Battlefield

    Louisbourg (Nova Scotia)

    The Plains of Abraham (Quebec)

    Mexican-American War Battlefields I have visited:

    Palo Alto (outside Brownsville TX)

    @the-gipper said:

    French and Indian War Battlefields I have visited:

    Braddock Expedition, Wester PA

    Fort Necessity

    Fort Carillon/Fort Ticonderoga (Carillon was the French name for the same fort)

    Ft. William Henry

    Lake George Battlefield

    Louisbourg (Nova Scotia)

    The Plains of Abraham (Quebec)

    I have since been to Fort Niagra at the mouth of the Niagra River, and saw a reenactment of the siege of that fort by the British that was being held by the French.

    Also, I have been to Ogdensburg NY, site of either a French/Indian battle, or War of 1812, perhaps the latter.

    Mexican-American War Battlefields I have visited:

    Palo Alto (outside Brownsville TX)

  • Revolutionary War Battlefields I have visited:

    Lexington and Concord

    Ft. Stanwix/Oriskany

    Brandywine

    Saratoga

    Kings Mountain

    The Cowpens

    Guilford Courthouse

    The Siege of 96

    Germantown (Philadelphia)

    Yorktown

    Valley Forge (not strictly a battle)

    @the-gipper said:

    Revolutionary War Battlefields I have visited:

    Lexington and Concord

    Ft. Stanwix/Oriskany

    Brandywine

    Saratoga

    Kings Mountain

    The Cowpens

    Guilford Courthouse

    The Siege of 96

    Germantown (Philadelphia)

    Yorktown

    Valley Forge (not strictly a battle)

    Also have been to the Battle of Bennington site. Plus Morristown

  • Civil War Battlefields I have visited:

    Ft. Sumter

    Bull Run/Manassas I and II

    Wilson Creek

    Ft. Donelson

    Yorktown (yes, a Civil War battle was fought at Yorktown)

    Shiloh

    Ft. Pulaski

    Corinth

    Murfreesboro/Stone's River

    Harper's Ferry

    Antietem/Sharpsburg

    Arkansas Post

    Chancellorsville

    Fredericksburg

    Vicksburg

    Gettysburg

    Morgan's Surrender/Salineville

    Charleston Harbor

    The Wilderness

    Spotsylvania

    Brice Crossroad's

    Tupelo

    Monocacy

    Siege of Columbia SC.

    I am going to be visiting Richmond/Petersburg/Appamattox/Cedar Creek in June

    When I was a little kid I may have visited Chattanooga, but I was so young I barely remember it, so I don't count it.

    @the-gipper said:

    Civil War Battlefields I have visited:

    Ft. Sumter

    Bull Run/Manassas I and II

    Wilson Creek

    Ft. Donelson

    Yorktown (yes, a Civil War battle was fought at Yorktown)

    Shiloh

    Ft. Pulaski

    Corinth

    Murfreesboro/Stone's River

    Harper's Ferry

    Antietem/Sharpsburg

    Arkansas Post

    Chancellorsville

    Fredericksburg

    Vicksburg

    Gettysburg

    Morgan's Surrender/Salineville

    Charleston Harbor

    The Wilderness

    Spotsylvania

    Brice Crossroad's

    Tupelo

    Monocacy

    Siege of Columbia SC.

    I am going to be visiting Richmond/Petersburg/Appamattox/Cedar Creek in June

    When I was a little kid I may have visited Chattanooga, but I was so young I barely remember it, so I don't count it.

    Now add the Chickamauga/Chattanooga Battlefield, plus Kennesaw Mountain

  • In checking I see that I still have quite a number of "battlefield" or at least "war related" National Parks units which I have not been to. Here is a list of some I would like to visit at some point:

    Revolutionary War related sites: Boston NHP (Bunker Hill, Old North Church). George Rogers Clark (Indiana)

    War of 1812: Horseshoe Bend (really a battle with Creek Indians, but 1812 related)

    Civil War: Pea Ridge, Ark. Andersonville Ga. Ft. Scott Kan., Peco, New Mex.

    Indian Wars: Fort Smith Ark. Sand Creek Massacre, Colo. Fort Larned, Kan., Big Hole Battlefield, Mont., Washita Battlefield, Okla., Knife River, North Dak.

    WWII: Tuskeegee Airmen Ala, Port Chicago Cal. Rosie the Riveter Cal., War in the Pacific, Guam.. Minidoka, Idaho (Japanese Internment camp)

    Cold War: Minuteman Missile NHP, South Dakota.

    I will be visiting the Big Hole battlefield in a couple of weeks....plus I may make a return trip to The Little Bighorn.

  • There's a WWII museum near the Akron-Canton airport.

    Pretty cool. I wonder how the Air Force Museum in Dayton has changed over

    nearly 40 years....

    There's another military museum in Branson Mo. .... has all the names of WWII lost soldiers on

    a long room's three walls. Pretty amazing, albeit sad and somber, display.

  • In checking I see that I still have quite a number of "battlefield" or at least "war related" National Parks units which I have not been to. Here is a list of some I would like to visit at some point:

    Revolutionary War related sites: Boston NHP (Bunker Hill, Old North Church). George Rogers Clark (Indiana)

    War of 1812: Horseshoe Bend (really a battle with Creek Indians, but 1812 related)

    Civil War: Pea Ridge, Ark. Andersonville Ga. Ft. Scott Kan., Peco, New Mex.

    Indian Wars: Fort Smith Ark. Sand Creek Massacre, Colo. Fort Larned, Kan., Big Hole Battlefield, Mont., Washita Battlefield, Okla., Knife River, North Dak.

    WWII: Tuskeegee Airmen Ala, Port Chicago Cal. Rosie the Riveter Cal., War in the Pacific, Guam.. Minidoka, Idaho (Japanese Internment camp)

    Cold War: Minuteman Missile NHP, South Dakota.

    I will be visiting the Big Hole battlefield in a couple of weeks....plus I may make a return trip to The Little Bighorn.

    @the-gipper said:

    In checking I see that I still have quite a number of "battlefield" or at least "war related" National Parks units which I have not been to. Here is a list of some I would like to visit at some point:

    Revolutionary War related sites: Boston NHP (Bunker Hill, Old North Church). George Rogers Clark (Indiana)

    War of 1812: Horseshoe Bend (really a battle with Creek Indians, but 1812 related)

    Civil War: Pea Ridge, Ark. Andersonville Ga. Ft. Scott Kan., Peco, New Mex.

    Indian Wars: Fort Smith Ark. Sand Creek Massacre, Colo. Fort Larned, Kan., Big Hole Battlefield, Mont., Washita Battlefield, Okla., Knife River, North Dak.

    WWII: Tuskeegee Airmen Ala, Port Chicago Cal. Rosie the Riveter Cal., War in the Pacific, Guam.. Minidoka, Idaho (Japanese Internment camp)

    Cold War: Minuteman Missile NHP, South Dakota.

    I will be visiting the Big Hole battlefield in a couple of weeks....plus I may make a return trip to The Little Bighorn.

    There's an Indian wars battlefield in ohio not far from Toledo. I see the signs for it every now and again when I'm up that way. Been meaning to check it out. Since I'm here I'm fixing to add fort Sumter to my list of civil war battlefields visited over the next few days
  • If you ever get round abouts dc again gip check out balls bluff battlefield. It's a small relatively hidden civil war battlefield. What's interesting about it is that it's the only place to date where a u.s. senator has fallen in battle.

  • There's a WWII museum near the Akron-Canton airport.

    Pretty cool. I wonder how the Air Force Museum in Dayton has changed over

    nearly 40 years....

    There's another military museum in Branson Mo. .... has all the names of WWII lost soldiers on

    a long room's three walls. Pretty amazing, albeit sad and somber, display.

    @calfoxwc said:

    There's a WWII museum near the Akron-Canton airport.

    Pretty cool. I wonder how the Air Force Museum in Dayton has changed over

    nearly 40 years....

    There's another military museum in Branson Mo. .... has all the names of WWII lost soldiers on

    a long room's three walls. Pretty amazing, albeit sad and somber, display.

    Are you talking about the MAPS Museum Cal? I thought that was a aviation museum...not strictly limited to WWII....unless we are thinking of something else? The old 356th Fighter Group restaurant is closed up now, no? Always liked that place.

  • @the-gipper said:

    In checking I see that I still have quite a number of "battlefield" or at least "war related" National Parks units which I have not been to. Here is a list of some I would like to visit at some point:

    Revolutionary War related sites: Boston NHP (Bunker Hill, Old North Church). George Rogers Clark (Indiana)

    War of 1812: Horseshoe Bend (really a battle with Creek Indians, but 1812 related)

    Civil War: Pea Ridge, Ark. Andersonville Ga. Ft. Scott Kan., Peco, New Mex.

    Indian Wars: Fort Smith Ark. Sand Creek Massacre, Colo. Fort Larned, Kan., Big Hole Battlefield, Mont., Washita Battlefield, Okla., Knife River, North Dak.

    WWII: Tuskeegee Airmen Ala, Port Chicago Cal. Rosie the Riveter Cal., War in the Pacific, Guam.. Minidoka, Idaho (Japanese Internment camp)

    Cold War: Minuteman Missile NHP, South Dakota.

    I will be visiting the Big Hole battlefield in a couple of weeks....plus I may make a return trip to The Little Bighorn.

    There's an Indian wars battlefield in ohio not far from Toledo. I see the signs for it every now and again when I'm up that way. Been meaning to check it out. Since I'm here I'm fixing to add fort Sumter to my list of civil war battlefields visited over the next few days

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    There's an Indian wars battlefield in ohio not far from Toledo. I see the signs for it every now and again when I'm up that way. Been meaning to check it out. Since I'm here I'm fixing to add fort Sumter to my list of civil war battlefields visited over the next few days

    I think you are talking about the Fallen Timbers/Fort Miami sites:

    http://www.nps.gov/fati/index.htm

  • If you ever get round abouts dc again gip check out balls bluff battlefield. It's a small relatively hidden civil war battlefield. What's interesting about it is that it's the only place to date where a u.s. senator has fallen in battle.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    If you ever get round abouts dc again gip check out balls bluff battlefield. It's a small relatively hidden civil war battlefield. What's interesting about it is that it's the only place to date where a u.s. senator has fallen in battle.

    I know about it, but have not been there. It is not a National Park Battlefield, perhaps a state park? It is up the Potomac toward Harpers Ferry from DC, no?

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    There's an Indian wars battlefield in ohio not far from Toledo. I see the signs for it every now and again when I'm up that way. Been meaning to check it out. Since I'm here I'm fixing to add fort Sumter to my list of civil war battlefields visited over the next few days

    I think you are talking about the Fallen Timbers/Fort Miami sites:

    http://www.nps.gov/fati/index.htm

    @the-gipper said:

    I think you are talking about the Fallen Timbers/Fort Miami sites:

    http://www.nps.gov/fati/index.htm

    Fallen timbers that is affirmative

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    If you ever get round abouts dc again gip check out balls bluff battlefield. It's a small relatively hidden civil war battlefield. What's interesting about it is that it's the only place to date where a u.s. senator has fallen in battle.

    I know about it, but have not been there. It is not a National Park Battlefield, perhaps a state park? It is up the Potomac toward Harpers Ferry from DC, no?

    @the-gipper said:

    I know about it, but have not been there. It is not a National Park Battlefield, perhaps a state park? It is up the Potomac toward Harpers Ferry from DC, no?

    Yeah it is. Took me a while to find it because it's literally at the back culdesac of a housing development. It's a really neat scenic park with the obligatory unknown soldier graveyard and historical markers. Sort of insignificant next to Antietam or Manassas or Gettysburg but definitely worth checking out