The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
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1. You're the pussy happy with losing, faggot.
2. Haden is not a top flight CB and you comparing him to the wealthiest corporation on earth is embarrassing and shows me how fucking foolish you are. No one in the NFL is going to give up a 1st round pick for an average CB with a massive contract.
3. "It's called patience" heard that since 1999 you jerk off.
4. I want Manziel to start and he will, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him traded. Never said I wanted to trade him you absolute dipshit who can't read.
5. You're a fucking idiot, I'll root for any Browns player but I call it as I see it. As I see it, they are overpaid and overrated on defense. It's dumbass sheep like you shoving a 9 dollar hot dog into your mouth inside the stadium with mustard stain on your khaki pants and barrel assed balding head chugging a beer telling everyone to "be patient". Just shut up fatso and realize we are in the cellar again. I'm sure you're one of those assholes who told everyone to be patient with Couch, Quinn, Edwards, Winslow, Warren, Brown, Green, McCoy, Frye, Anderson, Richardson, Weeden etc.
1. You're the pussy happy with losing, faggot.
2. Haden is not a top flight CB and you comparing him to the wealthiest corporation on earth is embarrassing and shows me how fucking foolish you are. No one in the NFL is going to give up a 1st round pick for an average CB with a massive contract.
3. "It's called patience" heard that since 1999 you jerk off.
4. I want Manziel to start and he will, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him traded. Never said I wanted you absolute dipshit who can't read.
5. You're a fucking idiot, I'll root for any Browns player but I call it as I see it. As I see it, they are overpaid and overrated on defense. It's dumbass sheep like you shoving a 9 dollar hot dog into your mouth inside the stadium with mustard stain on your khaki pants and barrel assed balding head chugging a beer telling everyone to "be patient". Just shut up fatso and realize we are in the cellar again.
1) I never said I was happy with losing. I just possess a pair of balls and don't flip out every time something goes wrong.
2) Did you just start watching the NFL this year? I'm sure you believe Kirk Cousins is the best QB in NFL history then.
3) Having patience 3 games into the fucking season is just common sense. Another quality you seem to lack.
4) You sure seemed to get a chubby thinking about the possibility of it.
5) Oh is someone's feelings hurt? Having to assume I'm overweight and balding so you can attempt to hurl pathetic insults. Has JM not responded to a certain someone's erotic fan-fiction?
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1. You're the pussy happy with losing, faggot.
2. Haden is not a top flight CB and you comparing him to the wealthiest corporation on earth is embarrassing and shows me how fucking foolish you are. No one in the NFL is going to give up a 1st round pick for an average CB with a massive contract.
3. "It's called patience" heard that since 1999 you jerk off.
4. I want Manziel to start and he will, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him traded. Never said I wanted you absolute dipshit who can't read.
5. You're a fucking idiot, I'll root for any Browns player but I call it as I see it. As I see it, they are overpaid and overrated on defense. It's dumbass sheep like you shoving a 9 dollar hot dog into your mouth inside the stadium with mustard stain on your khaki pants and barrel assed balding head chugging a beer telling everyone to "be patient". Just shut up fatso and realize we are in the cellar again.
1) I never said I was happy with losing. I just possess a pair of balls and don't flip out every time something goes wrong.
2) Did you just start watching the NFL this year? I'm sure you believe Kirk Cousins is the best QB in NFL history then.
3) Having patience 3 games into the fucking season is just common sense. Another quality you seem to lack.
4) You sure seemed to get a chubby thinking about the possibility of it.
5) Oh is someone's feelings hurt? Having to assume I'm overweight and balding so you can attempt to hurl pathetic insults. Has JM not responded to a certain someone's erotic fan-fiction?
1) I never said I was happy with losing. I just possess a pair of balls and don't flip out every time something goes wrong.
2) Did you just start watching the NFL this year? I'm sure you believe Kirk Cousins is the best QB in NFL history then.
3) Having patience 3 games into the fucking season is just common sense. Another quality you seem to lack.
4) You sure seemed to get a chubby thinking about the possibility of it.
5) Oh is someone's feelings hurt? Having to assume I'm overweight and balding so you can attempt to hurl pathetic insults. Has JM not responded to a certain someone's erotic fan-fiction?
1. Everytime something goes wrong? It's been a FUCKING TRAIN WRECK NUCLEAR MELTDOWN since 1999.
2. At no point in Joe Haden's career, has he been "elite" by any means. He gives up huge plays all the time.
3. Having patience 3 games into the season? We are already 0-2 against our biggest rivals in games we had in the bag. I've seen this movie befor ya fucking dummy.
4. Manziel is the future. Get over it.
5. No, you just sound like a fat man licking sauce off your fingers telling everyone to be patient slobbering all over yourself.
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1) I never said I was happy with losing. I just possess a pair of balls and don't flip out every time something goes wrong.
2) Did you just start watching the NFL this year? I'm sure you believe Kirk Cousins is the best QB in NFL history then.
3) Having patience 3 games into the fucking season is just common sense. Another quality you seem to lack.
4) You sure seemed to get a chubby thinking about the possibility of it.
5) Oh is someone's feelings hurt? Having to assume I'm overweight and balding so you can attempt to hurl pathetic insults. Has JM not responded to a certain someone's erotic fan-fiction?
1. Everytime something goes wrong? It's been a FUCKING TRAIN WRECK NUCLEAR MELTDOWN since 1999.
2. At no point in Joe Haden's career, has he been "elite" by any means. He gives up huge plays all the time.
3. Having patience 3 games into the season? We are already 0-2 against our biggest rivals in games we had in the bag. I've seen this movie befor ya fucking dummy.
4. Manziel is the future. Get over it.
5. No, you just sound like a fat man licking sauce off your fingers telling everyone to be patient slobbering all over yourself.
1. Everytime something goes wrong? It's been a FUCKING TRAIN WRECK NUCLEAR MELTDOWN since 1999.
2. At no point in Joe Haden's career, has he been "elite" by any means. He gives up huge plays all the time.
3. Having patience 3 games into the season? We are already 0-2 against our biggest rivals in games we had in the bag. I've seen this movie befor ya fucking dummy.
4. Manziel is the future. Get over it.
5. No, you just sound like a fat man licking sauce off your fingers telling everyone to be patient slobbering all over yourself.
1) We've lacked the necessary talent to succeed for a majority of our time back in the league. We've also lacked the continuity in terms of coaching and system to build anything sustainable. Every single franchise or program that has been successfully for a long period of time has continuity.
2) So you did just start watching the NFL this year.
3) If it were a 3 game season, go ahead and be pissed off. The NFL plays a 16 game season. I'll forgive you since this is your first year watching the game. We all knew the first three games were going to be tough sledding. The schedule opens up from here and we have plenty of winnable games coming up. 1-2 isn't a death sentence.
4) I was in favor of drafting JM, as long as it wasn't at 4. I also thought he needed to sit for awhile so I'm a happy camper as far as he is concerned. All of this nonsense in the NFL recently making JM's off the field antics seem like child's play is merely icing on the cake.
5) No, I sound like a reasonable adult who has a semblance of an idea of how shit works. I don't expect greatness from day one because that rarely ever happens. I don't call for someone's head the instance they make a mistake. I can accept that someone made a bad play without assuming they are they worst human being that has ever attempted to play the position.
It's called not being a bitch. You should try it sometime. I know you're capable of it. You've shown very, and I mean very, brief glimpses of it in the past.
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^ You're happy to be a loser. You're happy with mediocrity. You're content with losing.
That my friends is what I call: A fucking loser.
I'm so fucking tired of losing. I'm so sick and fucking tired of it.
And losers like you who defend it. We are Pittsburgh and Baltimore's bitch.
Ask Joe Haden last year when he cried in the locker room after getting burnt by Cecil Shorts to lose to Jacksonville.
Haden is also Aj Green's bitch. He's owned him most of his career. Joe Haden isn't very good, at all.
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Walter White didnt do the meth, he just sold it and made it,
You are on meth if u think Joe Haden sucks, and I dont mean "average" , so far thats how hes started his season.
In no fucking way, whatsoever, can u say Joe Haden sucks.
Hes gotten owned by Green? Pull up the stats of the last 4 years between them Walter. I know u wont cuz you'd be proven wrong, haden has gotten better against Green each year.
Why did i even type out this much and waste my time with a person saying Joe Haden sucks?
Skrine so far has played the best, but Haden is playing much more man coverage than any other CB in the league. Sherman and Peterson usually stay on one side of the field. Haden has been moving everywhere. Look at the tape, i know u wont, cuz you'd be proven wrong.
Take a chill pill, your posts recently have been more Retarded than Jason Voorhees,
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^ You're happy to be a loser. You're happy with mediocrity. You're content with losing.
That my friends is what I call: A fucking loser.
I'm so fucking tired of losing. I'm so sick and fucking tired of it.
And losers like you who defend it. We are Pittsburgh and Baltimore's bitch.
Ask Joe Haden last year when he cried in the locker room after getting burnt by Cecil Shorts to lose to Jacksonville.
Haden is also Aj Green's bitch. He's owned him most of his career. Joe Haden isn't very good, at all.
^ You're happy to be a loser. You're happy with mediocrity. You're content with losing.
That my friends is what I call: A fucking loser.
I'm so fucking tired of losing. I'm so sick and fucking tired of it.
And losers like you who defend it. We are Pittsburgh and Baltimore's bitch.
Ask Joe Haden last year when he cried in the locker room after getting burnt by Cecil Shorts to lose to Jacksonville.
Haden is also Aj Green's bitch. He's owned him most of his career. Joe Haden isn't very good, at all.
No I'm just realistic. I wasn't expecting a 19-0 season from a team in transition. I've also seen my two other professional sports teams (the Cards and Thunder) use patience and continuity to build consistent contenders, much like every other successful sports franchise that has consistently succeeded in my life time. Perhaps I'm better equipped to deal due to this but considering how pitiful the Thunder were their first season in OKC and the consistent mediocrity the Cards endured before Pujols came around, I don't see that being the case.
Considering the Steelers and Ravens squeaked out their victories over us, I highly doubt either the players or their fans are considering us their bitches anymore.
You seem to enjoy focusing on the negative but refuse to acknowledge the positives in Haden's game. Has he made mistakes on the field? Of course, just like every fucking player in every fucking sport. Peyton makes mistakes, Sherman makes mistakes, LeBron makes mistakes, KD makes mistakes, Kershaw makes mistakes, Wainwright makes mistakes, everyone makes mistakes. According to your line of thinking, every single person I just named is fucking horrible.
If you want to hold a train of thought responsible for the Brown's woes, it's you're knee jerk, glass less than half empty, incompetent, the sky is falling attitude.
Like I said in my original post in this thread, grow a fucking sac.
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Walter White didnt do the meth, he just sold it and made it,
You are on meth if u think Joe Haden sucks, and I dont mean "average" , so far thats how hes started his season.
In no fucking way, whatsoever, can u say Joe Haden sucks.
Hes gotten owned by Green? Pull up the stats of the last 4 years between them Walter. I know u wont cuz you'd be proven wrong, haden has gotten better against Green each year.
Why did i even type out this much and waste my time with a person saying Joe Haden sucks?
Skrine so far has played the best, but Haden is playing much more man coverage than any other CB in the league. Sherman and Peterson usually stay on one side of the field. Haden has been moving everywhere. Look at the tape, i know u wont, cuz you'd be proven wrong.
Take a chill pill, your posts recently have been more Retarded than Jason Voorhees,
Hes gotten owned by Green? Pull up the stats of the last 4 years between them Walter. I know u wont cuz you'd be proven wrong, haden has gotten better against Green each year.
In the 6 times they have gone up against eachother Green has 27 catches for 402 yards and 4 TD's. That's 14.8 yards a catch.
And 2 of those TD's came in the final 3 minutes of the game. Haden isn't clutch. At all.
God only knows his stats against Antonio Brown. And apparently he's Steve Smith's bitch as well.
I'm sick and fucking tired of overpaid athletes who slack at their job while the rest of the country bust their fucking ass off and get paid like assholes. I'm sick and tired of Joe Haden in his fucking swag outfits and nice sports cars and then his ass gets smoked on the field.
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And the last 2 years what has he done? Last year green has 4 catches for like 30 yds.
It is absolutely the system. Haden is doing more than hes ever been asked to do. Certainly has gotten off to a mediocre start, but i still have no clue how youve gotten to the basis that "Haden sucks, and isnt clutch....at all"
3 games in. We are 1-2. If the D wakes up this is a playoff team THIS YEAR. Without a doubt. We are in better shape on O than we have been in years, prolly since 2007
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And the last 2 years what has he done? Last year green has 4 catches for like 30 yds.
It is absolutely the system. Haden is doing more than hes ever been asked to do. Certainly has gotten off to a mediocre start, but i still have no clue how youve gotten to the basis that "Haden sucks, and isnt clutch....at all"
3 games in. We are 1-2. If the D wakes up this is a playoff team THIS YEAR. Without a doubt. We are in better shape on O than we have been in years, prolly since 2007
It is absolutely the system. Haden is doing more than hes ever been asked to do.
When you get a 60 million dollar contract, you better live up to the hype and he's constantly out of position and getting burnt.
If it is absolutely the system, Skrine seems to be doing fine? Haden is just not clutch at all. He never has been. Sorry for the reality check.
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Walter, your killing me.
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Week 1.
Haden burnt on the fake punt. Burnt by Brown on the TD, Couldn't get close. 5 rec 116 yards and a TD
Week 2.
Haden burnt by Jimmy Graham for 2 TD's and critical 3rd downs. 10 rec. 118 yards and 2 TD's
Week 3.
Haden burnt by Steve Smith for 5 catches and 101 yards and the pass that put them into field goal range.
One what planet does that justify 60 million dollars and "elite status" ?
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walter just being walter.
x100 on the ghoulie meter.
difference is: at least ghoulie is funny.
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The Good- Hoyer played really well, I like the dynamic with Manziel also. It's really refreshing to see a veteran not like Hoyer in here and helping the young stallion get his legs under him. Hawkins has already been the best FA WR that we've ever had, he's also very young and hungry. He's an absolute magician running routes and his hands are exceptional. We will have a very potent WR group when Gordon returns. We put up a huge fight against Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
The Bad- We lost. Benjamin has lost his flair and his confidence, a change may be needed at returner. Haden got beat for the winning field goal, although Whitner should have been there over the top to cut him down sooner. Rookie mistakes from both the players and the Coaching Staff.
The Ugly- We're now 0-2 in the division and although we still have a lot of football left to play we need to get it in gear and turn around our record to keep us in the hunt down the stretch. Penalties, flags and bad calls from the refs- They cannot allow WRs to push off our secondary so consistently and continue to flag us exclusively.
The Forecast- We have 6 winnable games in a row coming up after the bye week and if we capitalize we could really shake things up in the AFCN.
The Good- Hoyer played really well, I like the dynamic with Manziel also. It's really refreshing to see a veteran not like Hoyer in here and helping the young stallion get his legs under him. Hawkins has already been the best FA WR that we've ever had, he's also very young and hungry. He's an absolute magician running routes and his hands are exceptional. We will have a very potent WR group when Gordon returns. We put up a huge fight against Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
The Bad- We lost. Benjamin has lost his flair and his confidence, a change may be needed at returner. Haden got beat for the winning field goal, although Whitner should have been there over the top to cut him down sooner. Rookie mistakes from both the players and the Coaching Staff.
The Ugly- We're now 0-2 in the division and although we still have a lot of football left to play we need to get it in gear and turn around our record to keep us in the hunt down the stretch. Penalties, flags and bad calls from the refs- They cannot allow WRs to push off our secondary so consistently and continue to flag us exclusively.
The Forecast- We have 6 winnable games in a row coming up after the bye week and if we capitalize we could really shake things up in the AFCN.
Thanks for sticking to the topic.
Are you the same Poetic who used to be on DawgTalkers or the Browns main message board?
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walter just being walter.
x100 on the ghoulie meter.
difference is: at least ghoulie is funny.
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The Good- Hoyer played really well, I like the dynamic with Manziel also. It's really refreshing to see a veteran not like Hoyer in here and helping the young stallion get his legs under him. Hawkins has already been the best FA WR that we've ever had, he's also very young and hungry. He's an absolute magician running routes and his hands are exceptional. We will have a very potent WR group when Gordon returns. We put up a huge fight against Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
The Bad- We lost. Benjamin has lost his flair and his confidence, a change may be needed at returner. Haden got beat for the winning field goal, although Whitner should have been there over the top to cut him down sooner. Rookie mistakes from both the players and the Coaching Staff.
The Ugly- We're now 0-2 in the division and although we still have a lot of football left to play we need to get it in gear and turn around our record to keep us in the hunt down the stretch. Penalties, flags and bad calls from the refs- They cannot allow WRs to push off our secondary so consistently and continue to flag us exclusively.
The Forecast- We have 6 winnable games in a row coming up after the bye week and if we capitalize we could really shake things up in the AFCN.
Thanks for sticking to the topic.
Are you the same Poetic who used to be on DawgTalkers or the Browns main message board?
Thanks for sticking to the topic.
Are you the same Poetic who used to be on DawgTalkers or the Browns main message board?
Yeah, I used to be on the ClevelandBrowns main message forum. I got banned for life for creating a second account under my girlfriend's name. I was banned the first time for saying, "Winslow is a motherfucking solider!" Then again for calling Mangini a fucking "Mangina", Then again for a tirade I went on for letting Lawrence Vickers walk after Mangini was fired. I kept getting banned and I couldn't take not posting or talking about the Browns leading up to the draft... I'm so glad I found this place...
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^ You're happy to be a loser. You're happy with mediocrity. You're content with losing.
That my friends is what I call: A fucking loser.
I'm so fucking tired of losing. I'm so sick and fucking tired of it.
And losers like you who defend it. We are Pittsburgh and Baltimore's bitch.
Ask Joe Haden last year when he cried in the locker room after getting burnt by Cecil Shorts to lose to Jacksonville.
Haden is also Aj Green's bitch. He's owned him most of his career. Joe Haden isn't very good, at all.
^ You're happy to be a loser. You're happy with mediocrity. You're content with losing.
Im not happy or content with any of it. Im just not a cry baby bitch.
That my friends is what I call: A fucking loser.
No. Taking a level headed approach and not freaking out is not being a fucking loser. It's what smart people do. BUT, going on constant internet rants about things you cant change and decisions that were made 5 years ago is definitely being a FUCKING loser. And attacking fans who support their team is positively 100% a loser move.
I'm so fucking tired of losing. I'm so sick and fucking tired of it.
Me too. And if losing isn't bad enough, I also gotta listen to bunch of losers, quitters and bitches shitting their pants over it. Like a room full of 8 year olds that can't cope with simple simple things that dont matter in real life.
And losers like you who defend it. We are Pittsburgh and Baltimore's bitch.
No one is defending it. You're blind if you can't see the improvements. And you have unrealistic expectations if you think it will change over night. Grow some balls and act like a man. You'd be the first guy I'd cut from any team, based upon your finger pointing whiny ways.
Ask Joe Haden last year when he cried in the locker room after getting burnt by Cecil Shorts to lose to Jacksonville.
Haden is also Aj Green's bitch. He's owned him most of his career. Joe Haden isn't very good, at all.
???...Your point is? Hadens the best we got right now, no matter what your opinion is. But maybe Farmer can shit out another starting corner back tonight. K? And there's no game this week to give you something or someone new to cry about, so does that mean 2 weeks of I hate Haden?
Why dont you just butch up?
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The Good
*Hoyer's play
The Bad
*1st Round of the 2014 NFL Draft for the Cleveland Browns
The Ugly
*Joe Haden, exposed
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Remember when Browns D and ST looked pretty good...and all we needed was an offense? It's like working on one part of the puzzle, and then the other pieces come apart that you just worked on getting together. Eventually that puzzle will be complete. We damn well know the D is good, it just needs a little fixin'. Bye week was the time to do that and it'd better show positive results @ Tennessee Sunday.
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