RB Glenn Winston in a Browns uniform
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And I thought he was a receiver....
Not to hijack the thread with Johnny, but he made a great, running, one-handed grab on that toss from Hoyer. The guy is so athletic, I am up for using him anyway we can.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
Not to hijack the thread with Johnny, but he made a great, running, one-handed grab on that toss from Hoyer. The guy is so athletic, I am up for using him anyway we can.
Zombo
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That was a nice one handed grab
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I thought this thread was about a fourth running back. What was his name again?
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I see this topic went sideways. I for one want to see what we can do with him...If pettine thinks he has more talent then the babybacks...could be interesting down the road.
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Tale of the Tape
Taylor Gabriel, 5,8 167 lb, 4.4 40 time, trips and falls down when he catches balls.
Johnny Manziel, 6'0 210 lb, one handed grabs in stride with plenty of YAC
Do we have the wrong guy as our #3 receiver?
Zombo
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I saw a few clips of him in preseason. One game he hit the hole and took it to the house for like 30 yards.
(edit) here it is...http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000383224/Winston-27-yard-touchdown-run
Nothing fancy, but its nice to see a back hit a hole hard and not tap dance around...
Good size. Good pickup off another teams practice squad. Probably wouldn't have been on their practice squad if they didn't have Gore AND Carlos...
I don't really think carrying 4 RB with Ben Tate on the roster is a bad thing. Tate didn't make it out of the first game, so if Crowell or West goes down, you are down to one back without him.
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I was curious about why he was dismissed from Michigan State.
Just read a good article on Winston's wayward past and his apparent maturation...
"A mistake doesn’t dictate who I am,” Winston said. “I was young around the time. I was 18, 19, I’m a grown man now. I’m completely past that. I paid my debt.”
After two arrests — he spent six months in jail for a 2008 fight with MSU hockey players and violated his probation with the 2009 Rather Hall incident — Winston is a longshot to get drafted, even though one area scout who spoke to the Free Press on the condition of anonymity said he would have no problem taking the running back late in next week’s draft.
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On an aside, I think Johnny should be holding on kicks too.....why not?.....I bet he coulda run that botched snap in.....and he opens a LOT of doors for 2 point conversions and fake FG's cause he can run and throw.....
On an aside, I think Johnny should be holding on kicks too.....why not?.....I bet he coulda run that botched snap in.....and he opens a LOT of doors for 2 point conversions and fake FG's cause he can run and throw.....
Who is doing the holding, the punter? Yes, I agree, the backup QB could/should be a holder...for the reason you site. JFF could make up for a botched snap, or be able to do fakes.
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Sideways? As in "off-the-rails"?
First time for everything...
Zombo said:
Tale of the Tape
Johnny Manziel, 6'0 210 lb, one handed grabs in stride with plenty of YAC
True Tale of the Tape... thumb off scales and wedges out of shoes...
5'11-1/2 191 lb...
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Zombo said:
He was 207 at the combine. He's thicker than some of these other scrawny guys. Looks thicker in person. There is no way he is under 200.
OK... maybe not now with all those Snickers he's been obliged to pound down...
Wait...
In person?
You been hangin' with the "little, loose deuce"*?
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* soon to be trademarked by ManzielCorp... right after ManzielCorp.
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Zombo said:
He was 207 at the combine. He's thicker than some of these other scrawny guys. Looks thicker in person. There is no way he is under 200.
OK... maybe not now with all those Snickers he's been obliged to pound down...
Wait...
In person?
You been hangin' with the "little, loose deuce"*?
____________________________________________________________________
* soon to be trademarked by ManzielCorp... right after ManzielCorp.
OK... maybe not now with all those Snickers he's been obliged to pound down...
Wait...
In person?
You been hangin' with the "little, loose deuce"*?
____________________________________________________________________
* soon to be trademarked by ManzielCorp... right after ManzielCorp.
We pounded beers at Two Bucks and played the roulette at the Horshoe Casino. Dude's not very lucky, so he must be good.
Zombo
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OK... maybe not now with all those Snickers he's been obliged to pound down...
Wait...
In person?
You been hangin' with the "little, loose deuce"*?
____________________________________________________________________
* soon to be trademarked by ManzielCorp... right after ManzielCorp.
We pounded beers at Two Bucks and played the roulette at the Horshoe Casino. Dude's not very lucky, so he must be good.
Zombo
Zombo said:
We pounded beers at Two Bucks and played the roulette at the Horshoe Casino. Dude's not very lucky, so he must be good.
Zombo
I think the best part is he made it through both the bye week AND Zombo without making TMZ. Maybe he's gained a few maturity pounds.
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I think it is a good pick up insurance in case Tate goes down again we would still have 3 strong Backs to tote the ball around to the endzone..hmm wonder if he is on Madden???
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Tate scheduled to start this week, and neither West or Crow are adept yet at special teams or receiving ... Do you dress them both or sit one, and which one?
Interesting decision, don't want to burn a roster spot, but don't want to deactivate either of these kids either.
Z
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Tate scheduled to start this week, and neither West or Crow are adept yet at special teams or receiving ... Do you dress them both or sit one, and which one?
Interesting decision, don't want to burn a roster spot, but don't want to deactivate either of these kids either.
Z
Zombo said:
Tate scheduled to start this week, and neither West or Crow are adept yet at special teams or receiving ... Do you dress them both or sit one, and which one?
Dress all three of them. Deactivate Winston or...
Can Crow play FB? Would have to be better than Ag at lead blocking in the zone plays.
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Zombo said:
Tate scheduled to start this week, and neither West or Crow are adept yet at special teams or receiving ... Do you dress them both or sit one, and which one?
Dress all three of them. Deactivate Winston or...
Can Crow play FB? Would have to be better than Ag at lead blocking in the zone plays.
Dress all three of them. Deactivate Winston or...
Can Crow play FB? Would have to be better than Ag at lead blocking in the zone plays.
So, this is really kind of a tricky problem? we have here......too many good backs.....
It's just not practical to carry 5 RB's.......but, if we try to move one to PS, he is sure to get nabbed.....and if we keep em all, we are burning valuable roster spots, just to hold players we might need someday.....
Can't cut rookies who are on fire and look like the future.....
Can't cut the proven star you just signed.....
Sooooooooooo.....what to do, what to do.....
I say......work Tate hard for the next few games.....let him rack up some serious yards......then investigate trading him....we didn't give up anything to get him and he might bring us some much needed help somewhere else.....
Just an idea.....
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Dress all three of them. Deactivate Winston or...
Can Crow play FB? Would have to be better than Ag at lead blocking in the zone plays.
So, this is really kind of a tricky problem? we have here......too many good backs.....
It's just not practical to carry 5 RB's.......but, if we try to move one to PS, he is sure to get nabbed.....and if we keep em all, we are burning valuable roster spots, just to hold players we might need someday.....
Can't cut rookies who are on fire and look like the future.....
Can't cut the proven star you just signed.....
Sooooooooooo.....what to do, what to do.....
I say......work Tate hard for the next few games.....let him rack up some serious yards......then investigate trading him....we didn't give up anything to get him and he might bring us some much needed help somewhere else.....
Just an idea.....
So, this is really kind of a tricky problem? we have here......too many good backs.....
It's just not practical to carry 5 RB's.......but, if we try to move one to PS, he is sure to get nabbed.....and if we keep em all, we are burning valuable roster spots, just to hold players we might need someday.....
Can't cut rookies who are on fire and look like the future.....
Can't cut the proven star you just signed.....
Sooooooooooo.....what to do, what to do.....
I say......work Tate hard for the next few games.....let him rack up some serious yards......then investigate trading him....we didn't give up anything to get him and he might bring us some much needed help somewhere else.....
Just an idea.....
It's not a bad idea, and crossed my mind, but I wonder if you run the risk of putting off future FA signings by doing that? At the end of the year, it's certainly worth considering, if Tate has had a big year, but then he'd only have a year on his contract, and wouldn't get much in a trade.
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So, this is really kind of a tricky problem? we have here......too many good backs.....
It's just not practical to carry 5 RB's.......but, if we try to move one to PS, he is sure to get nabbed.....and if we keep em all, we are burning valuable roster spots, just to hold players we might need someday.....
Can't cut rookies who are on fire and look like the future.....
Can't cut the proven star you just signed.....
Sooooooooooo.....what to do, what to do.....
I say......work Tate hard for the next few games.....let him rack up some serious yards......then investigate trading him....we didn't give up anything to get him and he might bring us some much needed help somewhere else.....
Just an idea.....
It's not a bad idea, and crossed my mind, but I wonder if you run the risk of putting off future FA signings by doing that? At the end of the year, it's certainly worth considering, if Tate has had a big year, but then he'd only have a year on his contract, and wouldn't get much in a trade.
It's not a bad idea, and crossed my mind, but I wonder if you run the risk of putting off future FA signings by doing that? At the end of the year, it's certainly worth considering, if Tate has had a big year, but then he'd only have a year on his contract, and wouldn't get much in a trade.
Yeah, Im not sure Id worry about that.....Id think it's a pretty unique situation with the rookies doing so well and most FA's would understand that it's an isolated situation......not something we've done before or on a normal basis....
And you're correct, at the end of the year it will have to be addressed(trade bait for the draft maybe?)....but, Im thinking why burn a whole season with 5 running backs????
We are carrying 2 QB's and only 2 extra O linemen...cant see having all these running backs when we are so thin elsewhere...
Wonder what Tate is worth......a 3rd rounder maybe?......a 4th or 5th round pick?.....a #2 or #3 receiver?.....a back up on the OL ?.......
I hear Indy pays well for RB's......or maybe Buffalo wants to trade us Watkins.....hahaha
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