Greco Ranked as #4 OG in the League
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I was under impression Cousins was actually a hologram meant to confuse but not stop anyone.
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A few things:
--Cousins played RG at the beginning of the year because both Lava Man and Pinky were hurt.
--Lava Man started the majority of games at RG last year.
--Pinky got some time there, as well...........but not nearly as much as Lava Man.
--I was really worried about our guards when I heard we signed Shanny. Lava, Pinky, and even Grecco worried me. I was pissed we didn't go after either Jon Asamoah, Schwatz;s brother, or Beadles. I would have even went after Albert or Veldheer from Oakland.........both would have been good RT's.
I have to say that I think that Grecco has awed me this year. I got kicked off of DawgTalkers because I told a guy to get a fucking job. Oh my!!! But anyway, I had been praising Grecco each week. He is kicking ass! His seal blocks are outstanding. He is chipping on the double teams and getting to the second level. He is playing great.
Glad to see I was wrong about him.
I love the ZBS. When I coached high school, we ran a ZBS. It takes smarter guys. More agile guys. More cohesion. You have to be more technically sound. But man, if you get that, it is far superior to the Man [base] blocking system that most run because their big guys are too freaking stupid and lumbering to run the ZBS. Love the fact that Shanny brought in the ZBS and Grecco is thriving in this system.
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Not surprising. He's solid, and he's playing with a great group of guys on that line.
I wasn't sure why so many people wanted us to fix the "right side" of the line. I get Schwartz because he's been a little inconsistent, but I had no concerns about Greco... as long as he can stay healthy...
Not surprising. He's solid, and he's playing with a great group of guys on that line.
I wasn't sure why so many people wanted us to fix the "right side" of the line. I get Schwartz because he's been a little inconsistent, but I had no concerns about Greco... as long as he can stay healthy...
All about the system. Browns are bringing in guys (or guys already here) who fit. Probably why they let Gilkey go- not smart enough.
But ya know- there's (supposed) fans already calling Gilbert a bust after 3 games.
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A few things:
--Cousins played RG at the beginning of the year because both Lava Man and Pinky were hurt.
--Lava Man started the majority of games at RG last year.
--Pinky got some time there, as well...........but not nearly as much as Lava Man.
--I was really worried about our guards when I heard we signed Shanny. Lava, Pinky, and even Grecco worried me. I was pissed we didn't go after either Jon Asamoah, Schwatz;s brother, or Beadles. I would have even went after Albert or Veldheer from Oakland.........both would have been good RT's.
I have to say that I think that Grecco has awed me this year. I got kicked off of DawgTalkers because I told a guy to get a fucking job. Oh my!!! But anyway, I had been praising Grecco each week. He is kicking ass! His seal blocks are outstanding. He is chipping on the double teams and getting to the second level. He is playing great.
Glad to see I was wrong about him.
I love the ZBS. When I coached high school, we ran a ZBS. It takes smarter guys. More agile guys. More cohesion. You have to be more technically sound. But man, if you get that, it is far superior to the Man [base] blocking system that most run because their big guys are too freaking stupid and lumbering to run the ZBS. Love the fact that Shanny brought in the ZBS and Grecco is thriving in this system.
I like how Greco lost weight to become a better zone blocker.
--Cousins played RG at the beginning of the year because both Lava Man and Pinky were hurt.
I must have missed that play...
All about the system. Browns are bringing in guys (or guys already here) who fit. Probably why they let Gilkey go- not smart enough.
May have been smarts, but I saw Gilkey as a road grader, power blocking type, not a finesse guy.
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Never understood why we let go of Gilkey. I though he had a lot of up-side and was playing well (but what do I know)
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line has finally looked like we have the talent we have there, Greco, Schwartz and Bitonio are a great group to add to Mack and Thomas.
Sucks we drafted Pierre Desir, would've much rather had a WR or another LB. Ppl are bitching about our first round, I think its the tail end of the draft that Farmer fucked up. He traded away alot of our picks towards the end. Could've used another Defensive player or WR -
Never understood why we let go of Gilkey. I though he had a lot of up-side and was playing well (but what do I know)
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A few things:
--Cousins played RG at the beginning of the year because both Lava Man and Pinky were hurt.
--Lava Man started the majority of games at RG last year.
--Pinky got some time there, as well...........but not nearly as much as Lava Man.
--I was really worried about our guards when I heard we signed Shanny. Lava, Pinky, and even Grecco worried me. I was pissed we didn't go after either Jon Asamoah, Schwatz;s brother, or Beadles. I would have even went after Albert or Veldheer from Oakland.........both would have been good RT's.
I have to say that I think that Grecco has awed me this year. I got kicked off of DawgTalkers because I told a guy to get a fucking job. Oh my!!! But anyway, I had been praising Grecco each week. He is kicking ass! His seal blocks are outstanding. He is chipping on the double teams and getting to the second level. He is playing great.
Glad to see I was wrong about him.
I love the ZBS. When I coached high school, we ran a ZBS. It takes smarter guys. More agile guys. More cohesion. You have to be more technically sound. But man, if you get that, it is far superior to the Man [base] blocking system that most run because their big guys are too freaking stupid and lumbering to run the ZBS. Love the fact that Shanny brought in the ZBS and Grecco is thriving in this system.
--Cousins played RG at the beginning of the year because both Lava Man and Pinky were hurt.
I must have missed that play...
What play?
Pinky and Lava both got hurt during preseason last year. That is why Cousins started the first couple of games.
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line has finally looked like we have the talent we have there, Greco, Schwartz and Bitonio are a great group to add to Mack and Thomas.
Sucks we drafted Pierre Desir, would've much rather had a WR or another LB. Ppl are bitching about our first round, I think its the tail end of the draft that Farmer fucked up. He traded away alot of our picks towards the end. Could've used another Defensive player or WR... I think its the tail end of the draft that Farmer fucked up. He traded away alot of our picks towards the end. Could've used another Defensive player or WR
There certainly was a lot of late talent in the "deep" draft of 2014... at minimum we could have added some quality depth.
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Just read a report rating this years rookie class for the first quarter......based upon performance....
THE #1 rated rookie = Joe Bitonio
#13 = Terrence West
#26 = Isiah Crowell
#54 = Justin Gilbert
Now...there are 64 picks in the first 2 rounds.....yet we have 4 of the top 54......and how Kirksey didn;t make the list is beyond me....
But....it is what it is....considering we have 2 of the top 13 players and they were taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds...plus #26 who was picked as a freeby......Id say Mr. Farmer knows his shit.....
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Just read a report rating this years rookie class for the first quarter......based upon performance....
THE #1 rated rookie = Joe Bitonio
#13 = Terrence West
#26 = Isiah Crowell
#54 = Justin Gilbert
Now...there are 64 picks in the first 2 rounds.....yet we have 4 of the top 54......and how Kirksey didn;t make the list is beyond me....
But....it is what it is....considering we have 2 of the top 13 players and they were taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds...plus #26 who was picked as a freeby......Id say Mr. Farmer knows his shit.....
Now...there are 64 picks in the first 2 rounds.....yet we have 4 of the top 54...
What's the over/under on the time it takes for someone to point out that we have one in the bottom ten?*
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*Actually bottom eleven, but they won't know.... shhhh...
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Now...there are 64 picks in the first 2 rounds.....yet we have 4 of the top 54...
What's the over/under on the time it takes for someone to point out that we have one in the bottom ten?*
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*Actually bottom eleven, but they won't know.... shhhh...
What's the over/under on the time it takes for someone to point out that we have one in the bottom ten?*
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*Actually bottom eleven, but they won't know.... shhhh...
Ahhhahaha....everybody has picks that suck.....I would like someone to show me another team that has 3 in the top 26, pulled from rounds OTHER than the first.....
On an aside.....only 17 first rounders made the list, which means A LOT of teams aren't getting immediate production from their first round picks.....
Hate to say it, but Cinn had a couple at 32 & 33....Pitt had Shazier at 15th, but he'll fall now that he's hurt....Ravens had Mosely at 8.....
So, the early return has the Browns with the best "performing" draft in our division.....
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Here it is....of course, this is only one writers opinion....still think it's a pretty fair assessment
Top 50 Rankings Rank Player Pos. Team Pick LW Moving 1 Joel Bitonio LG Browns 2.3 2 Up 2 Khalil Mack OLB Raiders 1.5 6 Up 3 Anthony Barr OLB Vikings 1.9 1 Down 4 Kelvin Benjamin WR Panthers 1.28 9 Up 5 Kyle Fuller CB Bears 1.14 11 Up 6 Calvin Pryor S Jets 1.18 13 Up 7 Aaron Donald DT Rams 1.13 3 Down 8 C.J. Mosley ILB Ravens 1.17 16 Up 9 Brandin Cooks WR Saints 1.20 10 Up 10 Corey Linsley C Packers 5.21 8 Down 11 Jack Mewhort LG Colts 2.27 24 Up 12 Jason Verrett CB Chargers 1.25 10 Same 13 Terrance West RB Browns 3.30 4 Down 14 Chandler Catanzaro K Cardinals N/A 23 Up 15 Ryan Shazier ILB Steelers 1.15 5 Down 16 Sammy Watkins WR Bills 1.4 7 Down 17 John Brown WR Cardinals 3.27 27 Up 18 Mike Evans WR Buccaneers 1.7 26 Up 19 Cody Parkey K Eagles N/A 28 Up 20 Seantrel Henderson RT Bills 7.22 31 Up 21 Bradley Roby CB Broncos 1.31 19 Down 22 E.J. Gaines CB Rams 6.12 20 Down 23 Allen Hurns WR Jaguars N/A 18 Down 24 Ja'Wuan James RT Dolphins 1.19 25 Up 25 Allen Robinson WR Jaguars 2.29 37 Up 26 Isaiah Crowell RB Browns N/A 32 Up 27 Derek Carr QB Raiders 2.4 17 Down 28 Zack Martin RG Cowboys 1.16 21 Down 29 Weston Richburg LG Giants 2.11 38 Up 30 Bene Benwikere CB Panthers 5.8 15 Down 31 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix S Packers 1.21 39 Up 32 Russell Bodine C Bengals 4.11 42 Up 33 Jeremy Hill RB Bengals 2.23 24 Down 34 Gabe Jackson LG Raiders 3.17 30 Down 35 Deone Bucannon SS Cardinals 1.27 33 Down 36 Justin Ellis NT Raiders 4.7 44 Up 37 Preston Brown LB Bills 3.9 35 Down 38 Jarvis Landry WR Dolphins 2.31 NR Up 39 Zach Kerr DE Colts N/A 45 Up 40 Jimmie Ward CB 49ers 1.30 NR Up 41 Jake Matthews LT Falcons 1.6 NR Up 42 Jordan Matthews WR Eagles 2.10 NR Up 43 Justin Britt RT Seahawks 2.32 34 Down 44 Trai Turner RG Panthers 3.28 41 Down 45 Dominique Easley DE Patriots 1.29 43 Down 46 Will Sutton DT Bears 3.18 NR Up 47 Ego Ferguson DT Bears 2.19 NR Up 48 Jace Amaro TE Jets 2.17 NR Up 49 Bashaud Breeland CB Redskins 4.2 NR Up 50 Alfred Blue RB Texans 6.5 NRUp
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I find notepad good for that kind of thing - this site is terrible at importing tables.
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What play?
The play where Cousins actually played RG...
See because I thought he mostly just filled out a uniform and stood on the field and...
Aw... never mind... if you have to explain them...
Here it is....of course, this is only one writers opinion....still think it's a pretty fair assessment
Top 50 Rankings Rank Player Pos. Team Pick LW Moving 1 Joel Bitonio LG Browns 2.3 2 Up 2 Khalil Mack OLB Raiders 1.5 6 Up 3 Anthony Barr OLB Vikings 1.9 1 Down 4 Kelvin Benjamin WR Panthers 1.28 9 Up 5 Kyle Fuller CB Bears 1.14 11 Up 6 Calvin Pryor S Jets 1.18 13 Up 7 Aaron Donald DT Rams 1.13 3 Down 8 C.J. Mosley ILB Ravens 1.17 16 Up 9 Brandin Cooks WR Saints 1.20 10 Up 10 Corey Linsley C Packers 5.21 8 Down 11 Jack Mewhort LG Colts 2.27 24 Up 12 Jason Verrett CB Chargers 1.25 10 Same 13 Terrance West RB Browns 3.30 4 Down 14 Chandler Catanzaro K Cardinals N/A 23 Up 15 Ryan Shazier ILB Steelers 1.15 5 Down 16 Sammy Watkins WR Bills 1.4 7 Down 17 John Brown WR Cardinals 3.27 27 Up 18 Mike Evans WR Buccaneers 1.7 26 Up 19 Cody Parkey K Eagles N/A 28 Up 20 Seantrel Henderson RT Bills 7.22 31 Up 21 Bradley Roby CB Broncos 1.31 19 Down 22 E.J. Gaines CB Rams 6.12 20 Down 23 Allen Hurns WR Jaguars N/A 18 Down 24 Ja'Wuan James RT Dolphins 1.19 25 Up 25 Allen Robinson WR Jaguars 2.29 37 Up 26 Isaiah Crowell RB Browns N/A 32 Up 27 Derek Carr QB Raiders 2.4 17 Down 28 Zack Martin RG Cowboys 1.16 21 Down 29 Weston Richburg LG Giants 2.11 38 Up 30 Bene Benwikere CB Panthers 5.8 15 Down 31 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix S Packers 1.21 39 Up 32 Russell Bodine C Bengals 4.11 42 Up 33 Jeremy Hill RB Bengals 2.23 24 Down 34 Gabe Jackson LG Raiders 3.17 30 Down 35 Deone Bucannon SS Cardinals 1.27 33 Down 36 Justin Ellis NT Raiders 4.7 44 Up 37 Preston Brown LB Bills 3.9 35 Down 38 Jarvis Landry WR Dolphins 2.31 NR Up 39 Zach Kerr DE Colts N/A 45 Up 40 Jimmie Ward CB 49ers 1.30 NR Up 41 Jake Matthews LT Falcons 1.6 NR Up 42 Jordan Matthews WR Eagles 2.10 NR Up 43 Justin Britt RT Seahawks 2.32 34 Down 44 Trai Turner RG Panthers 3.28 41 Down 45 Dominique Easley DE Patriots 1.29 43 Down 46 Will Sutton DT Bears 3.18 NR Up 47 Ego Ferguson DT Bears 2.19 NR Up 48 Jace Amaro TE Jets 2.17 NR Up 49 Bashaud Breeland CB Redskins 4.2 NR Up 50 Alfred Blue RB Texans 6.5 NR
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Mud,
Thanks... as soon as my eyes uncross...
That looks like one of those piles of letters where you look for and circle everything in a category like "The 50 Contiguous States" or some such shit... And they are in there every which way: verticle, backwards, angled up/ down and left/right...
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Here it is....of course, this is only one writers opinion....still think it's a pretty fair assessment
Top 50 Rankings Rank Player Pos. Team Pick LW Moving 1 Joel Bitonio LG Browns 2.3 2 Up 2 Khalil Mack OLB Raiders 1.5 6 Up 3 Anthony Barr OLB Vikings 1.9 1 Down 4 Kelvin Benjamin WR Panthers 1.28 9 Up 5 Kyle Fuller CB Bears 1.14 11 Up 6 Calvin Pryor S Jets 1.18 13 Up 7 Aaron Donald DT Rams 1.13 3 Down 8 C.J. Mosley ILB Ravens 1.17 16 Up 9 Brandin Cooks WR Saints 1.20 10 Up 10 Corey Linsley C Packers 5.21 8 Down 11 Jack Mewhort LG Colts 2.27 24 Up 12 Jason Verrett CB Chargers 1.25 10 Same 13 Terrance West RB Browns 3.30 4 Down 14 Chandler Catanzaro K Cardinals N/A 23 Up 15 Ryan Shazier ILB Steelers 1.15 5 Down 16 Sammy Watkins WR Bills 1.4 7 Down 17 John Brown WR Cardinals 3.27 27 Up 18 Mike Evans WR Buccaneers 1.7 26 Up 19 Cody Parkey K Eagles N/A 28 Up 20 Seantrel Henderson RT Bills 7.22 31 Up 21 Bradley Roby CB Broncos 1.31 19 Down 22 E.J. Gaines CB Rams 6.12 20 Down 23 Allen Hurns WR Jaguars N/A 18 Down 24 Ja'Wuan James RT Dolphins 1.19 25 Up 25 Allen Robinson WR Jaguars 2.29 37 Up 26 Isaiah Crowell RB Browns N/A 32 Up 27 Derek Carr QB Raiders 2.4 17 Down 28 Zack Martin RG Cowboys 1.16 21 Down 29 Weston Richburg LG Giants 2.11 38 Up 30 Bene Benwikere CB Panthers 5.8 15 Down 31 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix S Packers 1.21 39 Up 32 Russell Bodine C Bengals 4.11 42 Up 33 Jeremy Hill RB Bengals 2.23 24 Down 34 Gabe Jackson LG Raiders 3.17 30 Down 35 Deone Bucannon SS Cardinals 1.27 33 Down 36 Justin Ellis NT Raiders 4.7 44 Up 37 Preston Brown LB Bills 3.9 35 Down 38 Jarvis Landry WR Dolphins 2.31 NR Up 39 Zach Kerr DE Colts N/A 45 Up 40 Jimmie Ward CB 49ers 1.30 NR Up 41 Jake Matthews LT Falcons 1.6 NR Up 42 Jordan Matthews WR Eagles 2.10 NR Up 43 Justin Britt RT Seahawks 2.32 34 Down 44 Trai Turner RG Panthers 3.28 41 Down 45 Dominique Easley DE Patriots 1.29 43 Down 46 Will Sutton DT Bears 3.18 NR Up 47 Ego Ferguson DT Bears 2.19 NR Up 48 Jace Amaro TE Jets 2.17 NR Up 49 Bashaud Breeland CB Redskins 4.2 NR Up 50 Alfred Blue RB Texans 6.5 NRUp
Sorry about that.....Im pretty ignorant with this kind of stuff.....highlighted the brownies.....
Here it is....of course, this is only one writers opinion....still think it's a pretty fair assessment
Top 50 Rankings Rank Player Pos. Team Pick LW Moving
1 Joel Bitonio LG Browns 2.3 2 Up
2 Khalil Mack OLB Raiders 1.5 6 Up
3 Anthony Barr OLB Vikings 1.9 1 Down
4 Kelvin Benjamin WR Panthers 1.28 9 Up
5Kyle Fuller CB Bears 1.14 11 Up
6 Calvin Pryor S Jets 1.18 13 Up
7 Aaron Donald DT Rams 1.13 3 Down
8 C.J. Mosley ILB Ravens 1.17 16 Up
9 Brandin Cooks WR Saints 1.20 10 Up
10 Corey Linsley C Packers 5.21 8 Down
11 Jack Mewhort LG Colts 2.27 24 Up
12 Jason Verrett CB Chargers 1.25 10 Same
13 Terrance West RB Browns 3.30 4 Down
14 Chandler Catanzaro K Cardinals N/A 23 Up
15 Ryan Shazier ILB Steelers 1.15 5 Down
16 Sammy Watkins WR Bills 1.4 7 Down
17 John Brown WR Cardinals 3.27 27 Up
18 Mike Evans WR Buccaneers 1.7 26 Up
19 Cody Parkey K Eagles N/A 28 Up
20 Seantrel Henderson RT Bills 7.22 31 Up
21 Bradley Roby CB Broncos 1.31 19 Down
22 E.J. Gaines CB Rams 6.12 20 Down
23 Allen Hurns WR Jaguars N/A 18 Down
24 Ja'Wuan James RT Dolphins 1.19 25 Up
25 Allen Robinson WR Jaguars 2.29 37 Up
26 Isaiah Crowell RB Browns N/A 32 Up
27 Derek Carr QB Raiders 2.4 17 Down 28 Zack Martin RG Cowboys 1.16 21 Down 29 Weston Richburg LG Giants 2.11 38 Up 30 Bene Benwikere CB Panthers 5.8 15 Down 31 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix S Packers 1.21 39 Up 32 Russell Bodine C Bengals 4.11 42 Up 33 Jeremy Hill RB Bengals 2.23 24 Down 34 Gabe Jackson LG Raiders 3.17 30 Down 35 Deone Bucannon SS Cardinals 1.27 33 Down 36 Justin Ellis NT Raiders 4.7 44 Up 37 Preston Brown LB Bills 3.9 35 Down 38 Jarvis Landry WR Dolphins 2.31 NR Up 39 Zach Kerr DE Colts N/A 45 Up 40 Jimmie Ward CB 49ers 1.30 NR Up 41 Jake Matthews LT Falcons 1.6 NR Up 42 Jordan Matthews WR Eagles 2.10 NR Up 43 Justin Britt RT Seahawks 2.32 34 Down 44 Trai Turner RG Panthers 3.28 41 Down 45 Dominique Easley DE Patriots 1.29 43 Down 46 Will Sutton DT Bears 3.18 NR Up 47 Ego Ferguson DT Bears 2.19 NR Up 48 Jace Amaro TE Jets 2.17 NR Up 49 Bashaud Breeland CB Redskins 4.2 NR Up 50 Alfred Blue RB Texans 6.5 NR
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