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The NFL Celebration Policy vs Religious Expression

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  • "going to one’s knees to give praise is exempt from that enforcement"

    So there's no NFL v religion conflict here. Just a ref or two that got the rule wrong. NFL might say it shouldn't have been flagged, and refs should receive guidance on that kind of thing.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    "going to one’s knees to give praise is exempt from that enforcement"

    So there's no NFL v religion conflict here. Just a ref or two that got the rule wrong. NFL might say it shouldn't have been flagged, and refs should receive guidance on that kind of thing.

    @gftchris said:

    "going to one’s knees to give praise is exempt from that enforcement"

    So there's no NFL v religion conflict here. Just a ref or two that got the rule wrong. NFL might say it shouldn't have been flagged, and refs should receive guidance on that kind of thing.

    Yep, looks like they came out and said he shouldn't have been flagged. Seems the referees need some training on that front. I think the NFL celebration policy in general is stupid, though. A touchdown is worth celebrating as long as nobody is directly taunted during the celebration.

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  • I'm fine with it. On the other hand I would imagine that Jehovah for Allah have got enough shit to worry about then the Kansas City Fucking Chiefs.

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  • OsirisO Osiris

    @gftchris said:

    "going to one’s knees to give praise is exempt from that enforcement"

    So there's no NFL v religion conflict here. Just a ref or two that got the rule wrong. NFL might say it shouldn't have been flagged, and refs should receive guidance on that kind of thing.

    Yep, looks like they came out and said he shouldn't have been flagged. Seems the referees need some training on that front. I think the NFL celebration policy in general is stupid, though. A touchdown is worth celebrating as long as nobody is directly taunted during the celebration.

    @osiris said:

    Yep, looks like they came out and said he shouldn't have been flagged. Seems the referees need some training on that front. I think the NFL celebration policy in general is stupid, though. A touchdown is worth celebrating as long as nobody is directly taunted during the celebration.

    Yep, exactly what I was thinking. Probably just some refs that didn't know the rules and that the celebration rules in general are dumb.

    But this would have been a "War on Praying" shitstorm caused by Obamao if it was a Christian player.

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  • I honestly have no idea why Antonio Brown got flagged for his ball-spinning celebration. I get that you're not allowed to use props, but since when does the ball count? And why, then, does it not affect players spiking the ball, or throwing it in to the crowd, or even people Lambeau Leaping?

  • W Westside Steve

    I'm fine with it. On the other hand I would imagine that Jehovah for Allah have got enough shit to worry about then the Kansas City Fucking Chiefs.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Jehovah for Allah have got enough shit to worry about then the Kansas City Fucking Chiefs.

    hahahahahhahahahahahhaahahhaha funniest thing I've ever read here.

    Allah and Jehovah don't give a flying fuck about the Kansas City Chiefs

  • I've never gotten that either. I'm sure god has more important things to do then worry if someone gets a TD or a base hit.

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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    I've never gotten that either. I'm sure god has more important things to do then worry if someone gets a TD or a base hit.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm sure god has more important things to do then worry if someone gets a TD or a base hit.

    That's the problem with religious people, they are convinced god is always on their side working to benefit a given outcome.

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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm sure god has more important things to do then worry if someone gets a TD or a base hit.

    That's the problem with religious people, they are convinced god is always on their side working to benefit a given outcome.

    @walterwhite said:

    That's the problem with religious people, they are convinced god is always on their side working to benefit a given outcome.

    And you give a flying fuck because....?

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  • Anyone know if he was facing the right way? Who thinks its ridiculous? Havent heard crap about Redskins name since the "punch heard round the world".

  • ?? what are you talking about?

  • The league admitted that it should not have been a penalty.

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  • He is referring to Abdullah's pick 6 in the kc pats game. He slid to his knees and bowed to Allah and was flagged for it. I personally see nothing wrong with the celebration.

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  • oh ok just read about it. Don't guys get on one knee and point to god all the time? Didn't Hillis used to do it after every TD? That doesn't look right at all.

  • It's pretty much an issue of poor referee training. The celebration rules allow religious expression and I think the ref did not recognize it as religious probably because he hasn't been exposed to it before.

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  • OsirisO Osiris

    It's pretty much an issue of poor referee training. The celebration rules allow religious expression and I think the ref did not recognize it as religious probably because he hasn't been exposed to it before.

    @osiris said:

    It's pretty much an issue of poor referee training. The celebration rules allow religious expression and I think the ref did not recognize it as religious probably because he hasn't been exposed to it before.

    Yup... the rules prohibit going to the ground as part of any celebration, except...

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  • I believe the player himself said he thought he got it cause of the slide. I didn't see it but if the ref was pulling the flag while the dude was sliding on his knees he may not have had time to realize it was turning into a prayer. Either way the league said it shouldn't have been flagged.

  • Already discussed over on the political section, btw, if anyone fancies a look.

  • The whole celebration penalty rule is a pile of horseshit. Unless they are actually taunting the opponent let then celebrate any way they want. Billy Whiteshoes Johnson's Chicken Dance would probably get a flag these days.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    The whole celebration penalty rule is a pile of horseshit. Unless they are actually taunting the opponent let then celebrate any way they want. Billy Whiteshoes Johnson's Chicken Dance would probably get a flag these days.

    @the-gipper said:

    The whole celebration penalty rule is a pile of horseshit. Unless they are actually taunting the opponent let then celebrate any way they want. Billy Whiteshoes Johnson's Chicken Dance would probably get a flag these days.

    Plus 1........I'm not a fan players who do the stupid pre-planned dances and stuff......preferring those who actually act like they've been there before and "expected" to score......but I don't think it's something the league should be penalizing teams for either.....

    Remember Greg Little dancing, taunting and fist pumping after 3 drops, then a 1 yard gain???....THAT should be a penalty......😉

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