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The NFL Celebration Policy vs Religious Expression

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  • The league admitted that it should not have been a penalty.

    "The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee

  • He is referring to Abdullah's pick 6 in the kc pats game. He slid to his knees and bowed to Allah and was flagged for it. I personally see nothing wrong with the celebration.

    "The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee

  • oh ok just read about it. Don't guys get on one knee and point to god all the time? Didn't Hillis used to do it after every TD? That doesn't look right at all.

  • It's pretty much an issue of poor referee training. The celebration rules allow religious expression and I think the ref did not recognize it as religious probably because he hasn't been exposed to it before.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
  • OsirisO Osiris

    It's pretty much an issue of poor referee training. The celebration rules allow religious expression and I think the ref did not recognize it as religious probably because he hasn't been exposed to it before.

    @osiris said:

    It's pretty much an issue of poor referee training. The celebration rules allow religious expression and I think the ref did not recognize it as religious probably because he hasn't been exposed to it before.

    Yup... the rules prohibit going to the ground as part of any celebration, except...

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  • I believe the player himself said he thought he got it cause of the slide. I didn't see it but if the ref was pulling the flag while the dude was sliding on his knees he may not have had time to realize it was turning into a prayer. Either way the league said it shouldn't have been flagged.

  • Already discussed over on the political section, btw, if anyone fancies a look.

  • The whole celebration penalty rule is a pile of horseshit. Unless they are actually taunting the opponent let then celebrate any way they want. Billy Whiteshoes Johnson's Chicken Dance would probably get a flag these days.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    The whole celebration penalty rule is a pile of horseshit. Unless they are actually taunting the opponent let then celebrate any way they want. Billy Whiteshoes Johnson's Chicken Dance would probably get a flag these days.

    @the-gipper said:

    The whole celebration penalty rule is a pile of horseshit. Unless they are actually taunting the opponent let then celebrate any way they want. Billy Whiteshoes Johnson's Chicken Dance would probably get a flag these days.

    Plus 1........I'm not a fan players who do the stupid pre-planned dances and stuff......preferring those who actually act like they've been there before and "expected" to score......but I don't think it's something the league should be penalizing teams for either.....

    Remember Greg Little dancing, taunting and fist pumping after 3 drops, then a 1 yard gain???....THAT should be a penalty......😉

  • They are probably just thanking god for the opportunities presented to them to be in the position that they are in. They don't think god actually made the score possible. At least I hope they don't.

    "The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee

  • Boxers are always funny with that stuff. "I want to thank God for my success in the ring". Yes, I am sure God guided your hands as you pummeled that other guy for 12 rounds.

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  • The one that gets me is families of people in surgery, for example. "We're just so happy that God decided to save our Timmy" - never mind the centuries of medical research and decades of traning and experience among the doctors and nurses that actually saved him.

  • Oh, yeah... but anytime Greg caught a ball it was worth celebrating...

    White Shoes' dance was idiotic, but original...

    Who doesn't get a little nostalgic watching Icky's Geico commercial?

    Used to love WSH's "Fun bunch" and their bowling/ bomb variations...

    But then celebrating became a competition, and suddenly we had Sharpies in socks and cell phones in upright padding.

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  • as long as he slides into the end zone and doesn't set a bomb off then......

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  • Major non-story

    I grew up reading a fucking newspaper about football.......Browns, Bucks, Reds. Not sure the cyber ghost riders (writers) have nearly the journalistic abilities old beat writers making a daily deadline displayed

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  • it is a story considering the fact that a huge number of young black males are turning to islam, most while in jail.

    see the americans going to join ISIS? they ain't no white boys.

    have your own religion, love your god, i have no problem with that. but the nfl should work like the feds when it comes to this. separation of church and state.

    the tebowing, the ring of christian fellowship after the game............

    c'mon man. do your shit at home or somewhere not on national tv where you might upset someone else's apple cart.

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    Boxers are always funny with that stuff. "I want to thank God for my success in the ring". Yes, I am sure God guided your hands as you pummeled that other guy for 12 rounds.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Boxers are always funny with that stuff. "I want to thank God for my success in the ring". Yes, I am sure God guided your hands as you pummeled that other guy for 12 rounds.

    Muhammad Ali was especially notorious for thanking Allah after fights.

  • W Westside Steve

    @walterwhite said:

    That's the problem with religious people, they are convinced god is always on their side working to benefit a given outcome.

    And you give a flying fuck because....?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And you give a flying fuck because....?

    WSS

    Militant Islam?

  • Difference with Tebow, he never scored. Was that the correct direction?

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    it is a story considering the fact that a huge number of young black males are turning to islam, most while in jail.

    see the americans going to join ISIS? they ain't no white boys.

    have your own religion, love your god, i have no problem with that. but the nfl should work like the feds when it comes to this. separation of church and state.

    the tebowing, the ring of christian fellowship after the game............

    c'mon man. do your shit at home or somewhere not on national tv where you might upset someone else's apple cart.

    @miktoxic said:

    it is a story considering the fact that a huge number of young black males are turning to islam, most while in jail.

    see the americans going to join ISIS? they ain't no white boys.

    have your own religion, love your god, i have no problem with that. but the nfl should work like the feds when it comes to this. separation of church and state.

    the tebowing, the ring of christian fellowship after the game............

    c'mon man. do your shit at home or somewhere not on national tv where you might upset someone else's apple cart.

    Because young black males are turning to Islam because they are realizing that Christianity was given to them by the same people who enslaved their ancestors 400 years ago.

    Isis ain't Islam, just like the KKK ain't Christianity

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