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Hoyer is the reason this season is still in play

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  • Clevfan4life C Banned Very Popular
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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    Unbeleivable. Any other year, with this kind of shit defense...we would be 0-4, and not a close 0-4. Every one of those games would have been blowouts. We would have been talking about the draft last week. Hoyer is the reason we are still in the hunt for a respectable season.

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    • BaconHound B One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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      B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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      Yes he has.

      Gotta give some props to the run game, both the OL and the RBs

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      • B BaconHound

        Yes he has.

        Gotta give some props to the run game, both the OL and the RBs

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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        I agree but if Weedon was still in there they'd just stack the box against the run.

        @baconhound said:

        Yes he has.

        Gotta give some props to the run game, both the OL and the RBs

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          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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          Hoyer has been more than spectacular. We actually have a complete offense so far this year. With Gordon back and having the tall,fast WR threat we'd really be a force to be reckoned with.

          Hoyer makes his throws based on his reads. Super quick release, pretty accurate, and he is an incredible game manager. Our two minute offense is always in sync. I like the fact that he can hit 4-5 guys on a single drive where weeden's mentality was just chuck it to gordon.

          But for some reason they still talk about Manziel. The commentator suggested putting him in after the half, SMH

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            I know this is hindsighting, and I usually abhor that....but still, even though I was ok with the Gilbert pick I really wanted Watkins or Mack. Just thinking about where we would be with Watkins on the team and then having him and Gordon for the Atlanta game....jesus Christ.

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              miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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              maybe when it rains pink cute puppies people might be happy (with a rainbow).

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              • Zombo Z
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                Z Zombo wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                The kid doesn't give a shit. If you don't love Brian Hoyer, then youtube browns highlights from the past 25 years and live with that

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                  maybe when it rains pink cute puppies people might be happy (with a rainbow).

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                  Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                  @miktoxic said:

                  maybe when it rains pink cute puppies people might be happy (with a rainbow).

                  Thumbs up Mik!

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                    I know this is hindsighting, and I usually abhor that....but still, even though I was ok with the Gilbert pick I really wanted Watkins or Mack. Just thinking about where we would be with Watkins on the team and then having him and Gordon for the Atlanta game....jesus Christ.

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    What kid?

                    I'm as big a Brian backer as he had here, back when Brian-backers' sanity was openly questioned, and "spectacular" would not make my list of adjectives for his play.

                    Precise... efficient... decisive... commanding...

                    Add that Brian has a lot of tools around him, mostly due to Farmer, and an OC with imagination and a sense of rhythm, and we have ourselves a solid offense.

                    @clevfan4life said:

                    I know this is hindsighting, and I usually abhor that....but still, even though I was ok with the Gilbert pick I really wanted Watkins or Mack.

                    Your abhorrence shows... If you're going to hindsight, do it right... or at least be consistent.

                    As much as you decry our D, you dream of Watkins? πŸ˜‰

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                    • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                      What kid?

                      I'm as big a Brian backer as he had here, back when Brian-backers' sanity was openly questioned, and "spectacular" would not make my list of adjectives for his play.

                      Precise... efficient... decisive... commanding...

                      Add that Brian has a lot of tools around him, mostly due to Farmer, and an OC with imagination and a sense of rhythm, and we have ourselves a solid offense.

                      @clevfan4life said:

                      I know this is hindsighting, and I usually abhor that....but still, even though I was ok with the Gilbert pick I really wanted Watkins or Mack.

                      Your abhorrence shows... If you're going to hindsight, do it right... or at least be consistent.

                      As much as you decry our D, you dream of Watkins? πŸ˜‰

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      What kid?

                      I'm as big a Brian backer as he had here, back when Brian-backers' sanity was openly questioned, and "spectacular" would not make my list of adjectives for his play.

                      Precise... efficient... decisive... commanding...

                      Add that Brian has a lot of tools around him, mostly due to Farmer, and an OC with imagination and a sense of rhythm, and we have ourselves a solid offense.

                      Your abhorrence shows... If you're going to hindsight, do it right... or at least be consistent.

                      As much as you decry our D, you dream of Watkins? πŸ˜‰

                      well I don't think any defensive rookie outside of Clowney, who we had no shot at anyway, would make a diff on this defense. I wanted Mack to sub in for the OLB'ers but also learn the ILB spot....he's doing good with Oakland I get it...but with Dansby playing this way I don't think it would be a good situation for any rookie. I just think Watkins would have made this offense at least twice as prolific. He's been playing really well for Buffalo from what I understand and he was catching for EJ Manuel and now Kyle Orton. I just think Hoyer is better than both of them, although Manuel is still young. Watkins and Gordon would have us in the playoff hunt imo, if Gordon was here now of course.

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                        R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by RoyceRolls
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                        Hoyer is on pace for 4,000 yards 24 TDs to 4 INTs....I'll take it

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                          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                          And if we had last year's offensive line last year's running game and Greg Little you guys would be calling for Brian Hoyers head on a stick.

                          One difference seems to be that last year's defense fell apart in the second half as opposed to this years which falls apart in the first half. I guess the second way is better...

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                            D Dste Ace wrote on last edited by
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                            The D has showed (Pitt 2nd half, Tits 2nd half) that they are capable of coming out and

                            shutting the other offense down. I found Pettine's post-game comments interesting. He said

                            that at halftime he and ONiell discussed the defense "at length" and decided to make no

                            schematic changes, that the problem was that the players needed to step up and make plays.

                            At this level, is it the coaches fault that players are coming out flat, not ready to play?

                            Brian Bosworth, in his rookie year, said that the his biggest adjustment in the NFL was that

                            coaches did not push your buttons to get you up for the game. Should the players, as professionals,

                            be expected to come out breathing fire ready to kick ass without the coaching staff being in their faces?

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                              MasterDogM MasterDog wrote on last edited by
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                              Hoyer is the man.

                              Dude looks cool and collective even when down 3 scores. EXACTLY what we need.

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                                And if we had last year's offensive line last year's running game and Greg Little you guys would be calling for Brian Hoyers head on a stick.

                                One difference seems to be that last year's defense fell apart in the second half as opposed to this years which falls apart in the first half. I guess the second way is better...

                                WSS

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                                Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                And if we had last year's offensive line last year's running game and Greg Little you guys would be calling for Brian Hoyers head on a stick.

                                One difference seems to be that last year's defense fell apart in the second half as opposed to this years which falls apart in the first half. I guess the second way is better...

                                WSS

                                That's actually another reason for confidence in Hoyer ... he won with last year's line, running game and Greg Little too.

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                                  jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                  The biggest asset Hoyer brings to the table as others have said is he's just a cool dude out there. He never looks rattled, plays confident and knows how to WIN in the 4th quarter. That's something you can't teach. I don't shy away from the fact I wanted Manziel (and I still think he's going to be good), but this is Hoyer's team for the foreseeable future.

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                                    TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                                    Hoyer's poise is contagious. I am loving what I've seen from him. RESIGN AND PAY THE MAN. Manziel can wait

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                                      ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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                                      He looks rock solid. The bottom line is always WINNING.

                                      Since last year.

                                      Browns (wo Hoyer) = 1-12

                                      Browns (w Hoyer ) = 5-2

                                      There's nothing else to say.

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                                        V Vers wrote on last edited by
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                                        Good call by OP.

                                        I was kinda hoping Manziel would beat Hoyer out, but Hoyer is playing lights out. I pffttt at the guy who said Farmer provided Hoyer w/all this talent. Hoyer is making chicken salad out of chicken poop. Well, not quite.........as our OL is playing well and we have 3 good backs. The WRs are dreadful and Hoyer's timing and accuracy are making them look better. Hawkins caused both picks yesterday by terrible route running. He free lances too much. The best appears to be Gabriel. That is kinda amazing.

                                        Anyway, Hoyer is making good decisions, gets rid of it on time, is an excellent leader, has some guts, improvises, exudes confidence, and is a play-maker.

                                        I'm on the Hoyer bandwagon.

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                                          WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                                          You really have to give credit to Brian and the offense in general. The line has held, the RB's have done their job, and the receivers have held their own.

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