Haden most likely out vs. Steelers with hip injury
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oh fuck
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cant be any worse Brown owns Haden
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Kwaun williams really stepped up vs the tits. Id start him opposite skrine and play gilbert in the nickel.
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CB Joe Haden possibly out Sunday; Justin Gilbert back in?October, 6, 2014OCT 65:21PM ETBy Jeremy Fowler | ESPN.comThe Cleveland Browns could be without their top cornerback for a key divisional game.The status of Joe Haden for this coming Sunday's home game against Pittsburgh is "potentially in the air" because of a hip injury, coach Mike Pettine said on Monday.
When discussing first-round cornerback Justin Gilbert, who has had a difficult rookie season and played nine snaps in Sunday's 29-28 win over Tennessee, Pettine said Gilbert might have to play because of Haden's shaky status.
Haden suffered a hip injury in Nashville but didn't miss a snap. He was evaluated on Monday but Pettine didn't provide details of his status at his news conference.
Gilbert, meanwhile, has seen his snaps reduced from 59 in the opener to 47 to 14 to nine. Undrafted rookie K'Waun Williams has outplayed him. Williams played 36 snaps Sunday, mostly as a nickel corner with Haden and Buster Skrine on the outside.
Pettine said he prefers not to move outside corners inside and vice versa, which means if he wants to keep Williams inside, he'll likely have to play Gilbert outside.
Gilbert has struggled with penalties and giving up big plays, including a 24-yard reception byMarkus Wheaton to set up Pittsburgh's game-winning field goal in Week 1, but a first-round pick with raw talent will get every chance to succeed.
"Practice -- just keep getting after it," said Pettine on what Gilbert needs to do to crack the lineup. "We haven't given up on Justin -- it's just something he has to work through."
If gamesmanship is in play here, maybe Pettine expects Haden to play but wants to keep Gilbert on edge with his public comments. The Browns must do what it takes to motivate the prized investment that clearly has athletic talent.
Perhaps it's too early to overreact, but such a drastic drop in snaps is alarming for Gilbert, whom the Browns traded down to draft at No. 8. -
Doesn't matter who plays, the rule changes have killed all corners, it's an impossible job now.
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Doesn't matter who plays, the rule changes have killed all corners, it's an impossible job now.
Doesn't matter who plays, the rule changes have killed all corners, it's an impossible job now.
that's why they are first round picks and when good get tons of money.
some people just don't understand that. the same ones that say they'd never pick an OL in the first round.
dumb as a brick.
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Doesn't matter who plays, the rule changes have killed all corners, it's an impossible job now.
Doesn't matter who plays, the rule changes have killed all corners, it's an impossible job now.
I agree. This is playing out with teams all over the league. In time I can see zone defence being the stock D in passing situations.
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Doesn't matter who plays, the rule changes have killed all corners, it's an impossible job now.
I agree. This is playing out with teams all over the league. In time I can see zone defence being the stock D in passing situations.
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Side note: Where is Desir?
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Side note: Where is Desir?
Side note: Where is Desir?
Browns inactives this week:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
#26 DB Pierre Desir
#41 RB Glenn Winston
#42 DB Robert Nelson
#67 DL Ishmaa'ily Kitchen
#83 WR Rodney Smith
#89 TE Gerell Robinson
#93 DL John Hughes
So far, Williams has blown past both Desir and Gilbert.
Zombo
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Williams definitely played well against the Titans.
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Here's an article about Williams when we signed him, he looks like an undrafted steal. Farmer is mining the fields pretty well.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/cleveland_browns_sign_rookie_d_1.html
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He looked good on a few plays, looked really bad on a few. Wiffed on the first Kendall Wright touchdown pass and let him walk right in for the score. Doesn't seem like anybody on the defense knows how to tackle though. At 5'8" I'd say he is a nickel guy for life.
It is nice to see all these undrafted guys that Farmer brings in showing signs of life. Change of pace for the Browns
Even with Haden playing poorly, I hope he is out there on Sunday. If not, hope Gilbert has a lights out game and shows why he was drafted so high.
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Side note: Where is Desir?
Browns inactives this week:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
#26 DB Pierre Desir
#41 RB Glenn Winston
#42 DB Robert Nelson
#67 DL Ishmaa'ily Kitchen
#83 WR Rodney Smith
#89 TE Gerell Robinson
#93 DL John Hughes
So far, Williams has blown past both Desir and Gilbert.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Browns inactives this week:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
#26 DB Pierre Desir
#41 RB Glenn Winston
#42 DB Robert Nelson
#67 DL Ishmaa'ily Kitchen
#83 WR Rodney Smith
#89 TE Gerell Robinson
#93 DL John Hughes
So far, Williams has blown past both Desir and Gilbert.
Zombo
Hughes and Kitchen I thought were a couple of mainstays on our D-Line. Why are they inactive?
And let me ask this question: Why the fuck should anyone on the roster be inactive?
The NFL allows what? a 53 man roster, but only allows like 45 of them to be "active"? What is the fucking point of that? It is as stupid a rule as I know of. You are paying these motherfuckers a lot of money to be on the roster, let them play in the game. Why on earth would a roster player be declared to have to sit out?
It is a useless, stupid, dumbass fucking rule in my opinion.
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Zombo said:
Browns inactives this week:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
#26 DB Pierre Desir
#41 RB Glenn Winston
#42 DB Robert Nelson
#67 DL Ishmaa'ily Kitchen
#83 WR Rodney Smith
#89 TE Gerell Robinson
#93 DL John Hughes
So far, Williams has blown past both Desir and Gilbert.
Zombo
Hughes and Kitchen I thought were a couple of mainstays on our D-Line. Why are they inactive?
And let me ask this question: Why the fuck should anyone on the roster be inactive?
The NFL allows what? a 53 man roster, but only allows like 45 of them to be "active"? What is the fucking point of that? It is as stupid a rule as I know of. You are paying these motherfuckers a lot of money to be on the roster, let them play in the game. Why on earth would a roster player be declared to have to sit out?
It is a useless, stupid, dumbass fucking rule in my opinion.
Hughes and Kitchen I thought were a couple of mainstays on our D-Line. Why are they inactive?
And let me ask this question: Why the fuck should anyone on the roster be inactive?
The NFL allows what? a 53 man roster, but only allows like 45 of them to be "active"? What is the fucking point of that? It is as stupid a rule as I know of. You are paying these motherfuckers a lot of money to be on the roster, let them play in the game. Why on earth would a roster player be declared to have to sit out?
It is a useless, stupid, dumbass fucking rule in my opinion.
Not that I agree with the rule 100%, but the reason they have the inactive list and 45 man "game day" roster is so both teams are equal and have the same # of healthy players...........
While one teams 8 man inactive list may be full of bumps, bruises and injured players....the other teams might not.....so this is a fair way for each team to start on an even playing field with the same # of healthy reserves.......
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Oh boy. Someone has to keep A. Brown contained this Sunday. If Haden doesn't play, then Skrine or Williams? Unless Gilbert learned quickly what he did wrong in week 1...
Judging from the past, I believe I could cover Brown better than HadenOh boy. Someone has to keep A. Brown contained this Sunday. If Haden doesn't play, then Skrine or Williams? Unless Gilbert learned quickly what he did wrong in week 1...
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