Hoyer is the reason this season is still in play
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i think i put mine in the goodwill bin like 10 years ago.
good to know there's a whino in the gutter clutching his mad dog 20/20 bottle well dressed in a kosar dallas jersey.
bernie is my hero. first brown that got me fired up. those brown's teams were my initiation into the NFL.
just hate dallas that much i guess. something about the star and being labeled 'america's team'.
hell i'd rather have the steelers be labeled that than dallas. don't know why really........???
(and hate is a much too strong word) more like despise.
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i think i put mine in the goodwill bin like 10 years ago.
good to know there's a whino in the gutter clutching his mad dog 20/20 bottle well dressed in a kosar dallas jersey.
bernie is my hero. first brown that got me fired up. those brown's teams were my initiation into the NFL.
just hate dallas that much i guess. something about the star and being labeled 'america's team'.
hell i'd rather have the steelers be labeled that than dallas. don't know why really........???
(and hate is a much too strong word) more like despise.
i think i put mine in the goodwill bin like 10 years ago.
good to know there's a whino in the gutter clutching his mad dog 20/20 bottle well dressed in a kosar dallas jersey.
Mik, that actually is Bernie!
WSS
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Seriously considering buying one of these. Simply clever and I love it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hoyer-Browns-T-Shirt-Any-Size-/141429773761
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Snake? Slimeball?
That's kind of an assholish statement.
WSS
Aren't those all Kurt Russell roles?
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Brandon Weeden bailed him out of one of those games. I'm not the statistician around here but how many games last season did the defense blow a lead?Zombo said:
That's actually another reason for confidence in Hoyer ... he won with last year's line, running game and Greg Little too.
Zombo
WSS
Brandon Weeden bailed him out of one of those games. I'm not the statistician around here but how many games last season did the defense blow a lead?
WSS
Not sure where you where you are going with this, but let the record show that the 2013 Browns were not a good team, yet Brian Hoyer went 2-0 in the games he started and finished, to his credit, including a win over the first place Bengals.
Just saying he is off to an encouraging start in his tenure as Browns QB, including 3 last minute comeback wins already, two of them on the road.
Zombo
--now: BEAT PITTSBURGH and legend will really grow with starved browns fans
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I disagree that our WRs are no good. I think Farmer was genius for sticking with these guys. We have 4 very capable guys who I trust 100% on 3rd down, when it counts. Hawkins, Austin, Benjamin, and Gabriel have all shown great hands this year, a quality past GMs have ignored with our WR corp.
Having back Gordon will round out what will be a very solid group.
I agree with you. These guys are getting open AND catching the ball. The guys we had before could do neither. It's a nice situation...Hoyer has receivers he can depend upon & the WRs have a QB who will get the ball to them.
We've come a long way, baby!
Mike
I agree with you. These guys are getting open AND catching the ball. The guys we had before could do neither.
Yup and I love the way they are being used. Especially Benji who was so misused last year...
VesnaKociper said:
The guy is the best QB the Browns have had since Bernie. As the team gets confident and fine tuned, as we ad more talent, things will only get better. The kid is the shit. He can flat out play and he has everyone excited.
Manziel was a waste of a pick.
No argument about Hoyer, but you could not watch the show Wilson put on last nite and help but see what our FO is hoping for down the line with JM.
I don't know if Johnny ever gets there, but the vision is clear. And at least it was only the 22nd pick and not the 4th (or more) that is at stake.
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Brandon Weeden bailed him out of one of those games. I'm not the statistician around here but how many games last season did the defense blow a lead?
WSS
Not sure where you where you are going with this, but let the record show that the 2013 Browns were not a good team, yet Brian Hoyer went 2-0 in the games he started and finished, to his credit, including a win over the first place Bengals.
Just saying he is off to an encouraging start in his tenure as Browns QB, including 3 last minute comeback wins already, two of them on the road.
Zombo
--now: BEAT PITTSBURGH and legend will really grow with starved browns fans
Zombo said:
Not sure where you where you are going with this, but let the record show that the 2013 Browns were not a good team, yet Brian Hoyer went 2-0 in the games he started and finished, to his credit, including a win over the first place Bengals.
Just saying he is off to an encouraging start in his tenure as Browns QB, including 3 last minute comeback wins already, two of them on the road.
Zombo
--now: BEAT PITTSBURGH and legend will really grow with starved browns fans
Just trying to keep it on an even keel. It would be nice if Brian Hoyer was the difference between last year's team and this year's team.
I don't think he is. I don't hate him I don't think he sucks and I don't think he's a bum.
Quarterbacks, to repeat a cliche, get too much credit and too much blame. We might be four and 0 or possibly 0 and four.
I say, as always, the next guy to beat the squeelers is my boy.
WSS
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no hes not, with manziel that titans game isn't even close. Its a joke that hoyer is still starting.
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no hes not, with manziel that titans game isn't even close. Its a joke that hoyer is still starting.
no hes not, with manziel that titans game isn't even close. Its a joke that hoyer is still starting.
And this is all based on ... ?
Zombo
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no hes not, with manziel that titans game isn't even close. Its a joke that hoyer is still starting.
So you're saying that the Browns offense would be averaging way more than the already mind boggling 25-30 points that it already is, cause JFF would be playing? Dude you're on crack. To have won those games that we lost we would have had to score well in excess of 30 points and that's just not a realistic interpretation of reality to be quite frank. It's already stretching it that we've scored this much. Throw a rookie in there who showed a distinct proclivity to throw ducks in preseason especially when throwing long....uhhh no. I love JFF and hope he takes this team over in a few years. But for now, it would be a joke to take Hoyer out. JFF comes in later in the season if for some reason we shit the bed and lose everything from here on out.
no hes not, with manziel that titans game isn't even close. Its a joke that hoyer is still starting.
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i think i put mine in the goodwill bin like 10 years ago.
good to know there's a whino in the gutter clutching his mad dog 20/20 bottle well dressed in a kosar dallas jersey.
Mik, that actually is Bernie!
WSS
Funny as hell.
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Hover's ability doesn't surprise me, as you could see it last season and I've been a big supporter ever since. What surprises me are the receivers. First, I can't believe that Gabriel didn't get a game ball last week. Was I watching a different Freaking game? But there has been only one drop in many, many challenging/tough catches and hard hits. Who would have thought?
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no hes not, with manziel that titans game isn't even close. Its a joke that hoyer is still starting.
no hes not, with manziel that titans game isn't even close. Its a joke that hoyer is still starting.
HAHAHA, the troll is strong with this one.
Zombo said:
And this is all based on ... ?
Zombo
He wants it to mean something when he wears his Manziel jersey...
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no hes not, with manziel that titans game isn't even close. Its a joke that hoyer is still starting.
no hes not, with manziel that titans game isn't even close. Its a joke that hoyer is still starting.
San Diego IP Addy?
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Casserly on Hoyer - "You have to re-sign him" :
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Casserly on Hoyer - "You have to re-sign him" :
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Tour on Casserly - " DUH ! "
I have to give credit to Hoyer though, he turned downed a seemingly "good" deal to take the chance on preforming his way into a great one. There's no doubt about it that Hoyer will be getting paid by someone if he keeps playing this well.
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I have to give credit to Hoyer though, he turned downed a seemingly "good" deal to take the chance on preforming his way into a great one. There's no doubt about it that Hoyer will be getting paid by someone if he keeps playing this well.
The whole contract thing will be an interesting watch.....the added twist is Hoyers willingness to wear his heart on his sleeve....wonder if the Browns will use that to their advantage....
Considering Hoyer has 6 years as a back up and now is "living his dream" as the Browns qb......does he give a home team discount and re-sign with the Browns or does he test the FA waters and leave the dream for the big bucks.....I wonder...hmmmm
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