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Did I hear right on the radio that Kruger is out for Sunday?

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  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    Fuck my ass running that makes Kruger, Taylor and Haden? Can we just give the Steelers the game so we can rest the whole team cause apparently the bye week did nothing. Did our guys just party during their week off? Does anyone else think that early bye's suck cause the players aren't yet broken down to the point where they take that week off uber seriously and use it to heal up?

  • Fuck my ass running that makes Kruger, Taylor and Haden? Can we just give the Steelers the game so we can rest the whole team cause apparently the bye week did nothing. Did our guys just party during their week off? Does anyone else think that early bye's suck cause the players aren't yet broken down to the point where they take that week off uber seriously and use it to heal up?

    thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    Fuck my ass running that makes Kruger, Taylor and Haden? Can we just give the Steelers the game so we can rest the whole team cause apparently the bye week did nothing. Did our guys just party during their week off? Does anyone else think that early bye's suck cause the players aren't yet broken down to the point where they take that week off uber seriously and use it to heal up?

    No. You heard wrong. He sat "out" of practice today. Doesn't exactly mean he won't play.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    God I hope I did. He's the last guy on the defense right now that we can afford to have out.

  • JAFBFJ JAFBF wrote on last edited by JAFBF
    #4

    Kruger missed practice today with a Back injury - don't know how serious yet, should know Friday at Pettine's presser.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/8649/paul-kruger-added-to-injury-report-misses-practice

    Taylor - out

    Winn - Quad

    Haden - Hip ?

    Kruger - Back ?

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #5

    all had to happen right before the 2nd Pgh game...fuck

  • JAFBFJ JAFBF wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Yeah, I pretty much did not expect them to get this one anyway, and with all the hype I'm hearing from the Talking Heads and now these injuries . . .

    Kruger and Dansby are really the only players on D that have been playing well, so this will hurt.

    We will have Kitchen active for this game, maybe Hughes (injury?) as well.

    Also it looks like Martin will be active this game as well, he showed pretty well last week on the few plays he was in.

    Mingo is going to have increased play time as well if Kruger is out.

    Yeah, yeah, I'm giving Mingo another year before I call him a bust - second new System, second Coaching staff, and only second year in the League, plus they want him to put on more weight and play differently.

    Give him a chance.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #7

    If Krugs sits then maybe we go to the 4-3...

    A pair of Bryants, Sheard and Mingo at DE. Other active beef at DT...

    Dansby in the middle flanked by Kirksey and Robertson...

    Not too shabby...

  • Fuck my ass running that makes Kruger, Taylor and Haden? Can we just give the Steelers the game so we can rest the whole team cause apparently the bye week did nothing. Did our guys just party during their week off? Does anyone else think that early bye's suck cause the players aren't yet broken down to the point where they take that week off uber seriously and use it to heal up?

    slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    Fuck my ass running that makes Kruger, Taylor and Haden? Can we just give the Steelers the game so we can rest the whole team cause apparently the bye week did nothing. Did our guys just party during their week off? Does anyone else think that early bye's suck cause the players aren't yet broken down to the point where they take that week off uber seriously and use it to heal up?

    I cant stand such early bye weeks. Week 6 at the earliest.

  • slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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    @douche-nozzle said:

    Sorry man but this is the kind of comment that brings the shit your way! Just up and change from 3-4 to 4-3? Just like that? Ask any coach above pee-wee how that would work. Entire front sevens are sometimes changed when a team changes from 3-4 to 4-3 or vice versa and you want to do it for one week because one player is hurt?

    We run em both anyway dipshit, even in the same game....

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #10

    @douche-nozzle said:

    Sorry man but this is the kind of comment that brings the shit your way! Just up and change from 3-4 to 4-3? Just like that? Ask any coach above pee-wee how that would work. Entire front sevens are sometimes changed when a team changes from 3-4 to 4-3 or vice versa and you want to do it for one week because one player is hurt?

    As pointed out above we play a hybrid...

    Also New23 pointed out in another thread, we played a 4-man front quite a bit of the 2nd half in our first game.

    So pretend you know something else, cause you are talking out yo ass here...

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    football much? Pettine and Oneil have been throwing the 4-3 in the whole season. In fact, when we played the steelers last it was the 4-3 looks with Armonty out wide that got some sweaty balls pushed into Bens facemask. Only good pressure we got that game was out of that formation.

    @douche-nozzle said:

    Sorry man but this is the kind of comment that brings the shit your way! Just up and change from 3-4 to 4-3? Just like that? Ask any coach above pee-wee how that would work. Entire front sevens are sometimes changed when a team changes from 3-4 to 4-3 or vice versa and you want to do it for one week because one player is hurt?

  • Yeah, I pretty much did not expect them to get this one anyway, and with all the hype I'm hearing from the Talking Heads and now these injuries . . .

    Kruger and Dansby are really the only players on D that have been playing well, so this will hurt.

    We will have Kitchen active for this game, maybe Hughes (injury?) as well.

    Also it looks like Martin will be active this game as well, he showed pretty well last week on the few plays he was in.

    Mingo is going to have increased play time as well if Kruger is out.

    Yeah, yeah, I'm giving Mingo another year before I call him a bust - second new System, second Coaching staff, and only second year in the League, plus they want him to put on more weight and play differently.

    Give him a chance.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @jafbf said:

    Yeah, I pretty much did not expect them to get this one anyway, and with all the hype I'm hearing from the Talking Heads and now these injuries . . .

    Kruger and Dansby are really the only players on D that have been playing well, so this will hurt.

    We will have Kitchen active for this game, maybe Hughes (injury?) as well.

    Also it looks like Martin will be active this game as well, he showed pretty well last week on the few plays he was in.

    Mingo is going to have increased play time as well if Kruger is out.

    Yeah, yeah, I'm giving Mingo another year before I call him a bust - second new System, second Coaching staff, and only second year in the League, plus they want him to put on more weight and play differently.

    Give him a chance.

    Dansby's been playing well? Our two ILB'ers are currently probably the worst or among the worst in the league.

  • ITHIKAI ITHIKA wrote on last edited by ITHIKA
    #13

    Its not a 43 guys its a nickle 4 man front a 4 2 5 or a 4 1 6. Basically what this means is there are 4 down linemen(these can be olbs as well) and 1 or 2 middle linebackers with 5 or 6 dbs. These are variations of the nickel defense which can be stout against the run and defend the pass well. In my opinion theyve played their best defense in the nickel so i hope we see alot more of it sunday. The base 34 package that they run generally on 1st and 2nd down is the defense getting gashed the most.

  • @jafbf said:

    Yeah, I pretty much did not expect them to get this one anyway, and with all the hype I'm hearing from the Talking Heads and now these injuries . . .

    Kruger and Dansby are really the only players on D that have been playing well, so this will hurt.

    We will have Kitchen active for this game, maybe Hughes (injury?) as well.

    Also it looks like Martin will be active this game as well, he showed pretty well last week on the few plays he was in.

    Mingo is going to have increased play time as well if Kruger is out.

    Yeah, yeah, I'm giving Mingo another year before I call him a bust - second new System, second Coaching staff, and only second year in the League, plus they want him to put on more weight and play differently.

    Give him a chance.

    Dansby's been playing well? Our two ILB'ers are currently probably the worst or among the worst in the league.

    ITHIKAI ITHIKA wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    Dansby's been playing well? Our two ILB'ers are currently probably the worst or among the worst in the league.

    I disagree they are doing an adequate job at covering the middle of the field the tight ends and rbs for short routes. The biggest problem is the gap assignments for the defensive linemen. They arent eating up enough blockers and clogging up lanes to help the middle lbs do their job. If you recall before the ravens drafted haloti ngata they said ray lewis was washed up. He wasnt he just needed those gap space eaters to keep those guards off of him. Same thing goes for this team. The dline needs to do their job and the rest of the team will fall into place by stopping the run. Im kinda looking forward to hughes and kitchen getting alot of playing time this week because thats what those guys do well.

  • thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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    Might be a blessing to see Kitchen / Hughes in there. They can't play much worse than Taylor / Winn have. Both those guys were pretty darn good last year, especially against the run.

    Or, it could be much much worse... we'll see...

  • thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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    @douche-nozzle said:

    Sorry man but this is the kind of comment that brings the shit your way! Just up and change from 3-4 to 4-3? Just like that? Ask any coach above pee-wee how that would work. Entire front sevens are sometimes changed when a team changes from 3-4 to 4-3 or vice versa and you want to do it for one week because one player is hurt

    Our base 3-4 is basically a 3-4-Over which isn't much different than a 4-3. One of our OLBs is basically playing hand-down DE on most plays anyway, plus we have very versatile ILBs who might actually all be better fits in a 4-3 anyway. So, making this adjustment is actually pretty easy when A)you have as much versatility as we do, 😎 you have so many D-linemen who have played in both sets, and C) you're only running your base D a small portion of the time. We, just like most other teams, make a living out of the nickel.

    Our best set this week will be the 4-2-5 set up like:

    Skrine A.Bryant - Rubin - D.Bryant - Sheard Gilbert/Nelson

    Williams Dansby Kirksey

    Whitner Gipson

    Spell Kitchen/Hughes for Rubin/D.Bryant, and Martin/Mingo for Sheard/A.Bryant, and Robertson for Kirksey

    Our base (3-4 over), I would want to see this:

    Skrine A.Bryant - Rubin - D.Bryant Gilbert/Nelson

    Mingo Dansby Robertson Sheard

    Whitner Gipson

    From this set, Sheard plays hands-down and Mingo is in coverage often. The weak spot is A.Bryant's side against the run b/c he and Mingo haven't played with enough discipline on run plays.

    The staff will probably keep Rubin at DE and place Kitch/Hughes in the middle, and use A.Bryant as a "package" guy.

    Either way, something needs to get shaken up to get this D going, and maybe these injuries could turn into a blessing. Or, maybe we'll just get burnt worse...

  • slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by
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    I think Haden continued to play after his hip injury in nashville

    I suspect he will play Sunday

  • Fuck my ass running that makes Kruger, Taylor and Haden? Can we just give the Steelers the game so we can rest the whole team cause apparently the bye week did nothing. Did our guys just party during their week off? Does anyone else think that early bye's suck cause the players aren't yet broken down to the point where they take that week off uber seriously and use it to heal up?

    tml1138T tml1138 wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    Fuck my ass running that makes Kruger, Taylor and Haden? Can we just give the Steelers the game so we can rest the whole team cause apparently the bye week did nothing. Did our guys just party during their week off? Does anyone else think that early bye's suck cause the players aren't yet broken down to the point where they take that week off uber seriously and use it to heal up?

    Well it's all part of the game. Steelers will be without Shazier, Jones, and Ike Taylor. This was why they resurrected Harrison.

  • I think Haden continued to play after his hip injury in nashville

    I suspect he will play Sunday

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @slowburn said:

    I think Haden continued to play after his hip injury in nashville

    I suspect he will play Sunday

    I agree and think Kruger could play too.....no one knows anything about their injuries and at this point no one has said either of them are out.....so, I think if there is ANY way they can play, they will.....

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Douche?

    Nothing to add?

    Hello?