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  • C calfoxwc

    Bitonio is the final fix of the oline. The line is really starting to gel,

    and they are run blocking and pass blocking like the best

    offensive line in football.

    Used to be, that any slow developing play, like a delayed draw, rollout, reverse...

    could not be called because the blocking broke down too quickly.

    Hell, the qb used to not have to plant his feet on the drop back. Used to try for

    a first down on 3rd and 1, and lose a yard or two.

    Now, they can run any play... just seems they needed a couple of games to get the

    new blocking scheme down.

    And Hoyer and the rbs are getting to rock...man, what a huge improvement in the offense.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Bitonio is the final fix of the oline. The line is really starting to gel,

    and they are run blocking and pass blocking like the best

    offensive line in football.

    Now, they can run any play... just seems they needed a couple of games to get the

    new blocking scheme down.

    And Hoyer and the rbs are getting to rock...man, what a huge improvement in the offense.

    Along with your(and Tours) points.....I agree the RB's could be the biggest key to future improvements in pass protection.....aside from Tate, they are all rookies and are the last line of defense for the QB.....they have a lot of room for improvement and will get better and better as the season progresses(hopefully)

  • JAFBFJ JAFBF

    Yeah, Mayock has a clip on him :

    http://sports.yahoo.com/video/rookie-report-cleveland-browns-offensive-225755824.html

    @jafbf said:

    Yeah, Mayock has a clip on him...

    I like Mike's breakdowns... good one there on Bito.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Bitonio is the final fix of the oline. The line is really starting to gel,and they are run blocking and pass blocking like the best offensive line in football.

    Bito was a great addition. While I still have Schwartz concerns and depth is essentially an unknown to anyone outside of the Browns organization, the growth of the starting unit is undeniable. There's no reason to see it doing anything but continuing.

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  • I love Jim Dray and what we've gotten out of him. As I understood of the guy his two main qualities were hands of glue and the ability to block. He isn't one of new age 6'6 guys dominating the NFL, but they way we play offense Dray is perfect.

  • Mini Play breakdown

    Total: 78

    Pass : 43

    Run : 35

    Run Lt: 8

    Run Md: 8

    Run Rt: 9

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  • Nate Ulrich @NateUlrichABJ · 3h 3 hours ago #Browns OC Kyle Shanahan said this O-line has picked up his zone-blocking scheme quicker than any group he has ever coached.

    I've heard it normally takes about 3/4 of a Season for the OL to gel in this system.

    If this (gelling) is true, then that means we've got a fair amount of improvement yet to come from this OL . . .

    For those that didn't check out the Mayock breakdown clip above, he stated that Bitonio looks like a 10 year All-Pro . . . he's only played 4 Regular Season games . . . .

  • Cute :

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  • "When guys just take it upon themselves to, 'Hey, do my job. Get a plus on the grade sheet,' and then the cumulative effect of that means we'll have a positive result," said Pettine.

    Apparently they use my system.. 🙂

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  • Pro Football Focus has this as the best Oline in the NFL. You want sustained team success? It starts from the inside out.

  • Great stuff,Tour..

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~

  • Who gave up that sack where Hoyer got crushed, early in the game, after making his first read. Or was that just a blitz we totally missed?

    Z

  • Z Zombo

    Who gave up that sack where Hoyer got crushed, early in the game, after making his first read. Or was that just a blitz we totally missed?

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Who gave up that sack where Hoyer got crushed, early in the game, after making his first read. Or was that just a blitz we totally missed?

    Last play of first series... It was an overload right blitz with 6 rushers altogether.

    Four blitzers came at Greco/ Schwartz/ Tate... and for once Meatloaf was wrong, "three outta four was bad". Tate got a + for a nice pick up of one.

    Only unoccupied O-Lineman was Bito... would have been a tough block for him to loop right behind Mack, but possible had he been aware. Also he and Mack might have slid right, but Mack had his hands full.

    Best counter would have been for Hoyer to sprint out immediately to his left. There was an ample gap there as JT's man had tried a wide speed rush and Joe was in good shape. Bito would then have had an easy opportunity to seal off any pursuit from the right... but this is all hindsight.

    Bottom line... it was a good call by TN and we got beat that play. I think BH saw one blitzer, but not the second who showed relatively late pre-snap. It's gonna happen...

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Zombo said:

    Who gave up that sack where Hoyer got crushed, early in the game, after making his first read. Or was that just a blitz we totally missed?

    Last play of first series... It was an overload right blitz with 6 rushers altogether.

    Four blitzers came at Greco/ Schwartz/ Tate... and for once Meatloaf was wrong, "three outta four was bad". Tate got a + for a nice pick up of one.

    Only unoccupied O-Lineman was Bito... would have been a tough block for him to loop right behind Mack, but possible had he been aware. Also he and Mack might have slid right, but Mack had his hands full.

    Best counter would have been for Hoyer to sprint out immediately to his left. There was an ample gap there as JT's man had tried a wide speed rush and Joe was in good shape. Bito would then have had an easy opportunity to seal off any pursuit from the right... but this is all hindsight.

    Bottom line... it was a good call by TN and we got beat that play. I think BH saw one blitzer, but not the second who showed relatively late pre-snap. It's gonna happen...

    @tour2ma said:

    Last play of first series... It was an overload right blitz with 6 rushers altogether.

    Four blitzers came at Greco/ Schwartz/ Tate... and for once Meatloaf was wrong, "three outta four was bad". Tate got a + for a nice pick up of one.

    Only unoccupied O-Lineman was Bito... would have been a tough block for him to loop right behind Mack, but possible had he been aware. Also he and Mack might have slid right, but Mack had his hands full.

    Best counter would have been for Hoyer to sprint out immediately to his left. There was an ample gap there as JT's man had tried a wide speed rush and Joe was in good shape. Bito would then have had an easy opportunity to seal off any pursuit from the right... but this is all hindsight.

    Bottom line... it was a good call by TN and we got beat that play. I think BH saw one blitzer, but not the second who showed relatively late pre-snap. It's gonna happen...

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    MudflyM 1 Reply

  • Nice elbows...

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  • Here's the link to the ProFootballFocus article ranking the NFL O-lines:

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/10/08/offensive-line-rankings-2/

    Here's their bit on our #1 ranked unit:

    1. Cleveland Browns (12th)

    PB: 1st, RB: 3rd, PEN: 4th

    Stud: How about going for a rookie? Joel Bitonio has been everything advertised and a little bit more. It’s not just that he doesn’t look lost on the field, he’s added some punch to the team’s running game. A great start to life in the NFL.

    Dud: All of the starters are grading in the green. There is no dud. Not yet.

    Summary: It’s rare the stars align like this. You’ve got five players who have played every snap and look like a line in sync. They’re opening up holes for their backs and giving their quarterback time to make plays. A real testament that the guys you associate with making up the numbers are playing just as well as the guys on the big money.

    Our fellow AFCNers rank as follows:

    Ravens 2nd

    Steelers 4th (30th in penalties)

    Bengals 13th

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  • And here's a nice Bito article in Bleacher with illustrative photos of his abilities.

    Love the outside seal illustrated in the last set vs. the Ravens...

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2225477-cleveland-browns-guard-joel-bitonio-quietly-standing-out-as-nfls-best-rookie

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  • I would love to know how the Steelers like is ranked so high..? They've had one good and complete game. That's about it.

  • Z Zombo

    @tour2ma said:

    Last play of first series... It was an overload right blitz with 6 rushers altogether.

    Four blitzers came at Greco/ Schwartz/ Tate... and for once Meatloaf was wrong, "three outta four was bad". Tate got a + for a nice pick up of one.

    Only unoccupied O-Lineman was Bito... would have been a tough block for him to loop right behind Mack, but possible had he been aware. Also he and Mack might have slid right, but Mack had his hands full.

    Best counter would have been for Hoyer to sprint out immediately to his left. There was an ample gap there as JT's man had tried a wide speed rush and Joe was in good shape. Bito would then have had an easy opportunity to seal off any pursuit from the right... but this is all hindsight.

    Bottom line... it was a good call by TN and we got beat that play. I think BH saw one blitzer, but not the second who showed relatively late pre-snap. It's gonna happen...

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    Zombo said:

    90395-nina-agdal-thumbs-up-gif-boobs-L1z

    Hmmm....one "quote" comment would take this to page 2.....correct?.

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Zombo said:

    90395-nina-agdal-thumbs-up-gif-boobs-L1z

    Hmmm....one "quote" comment would take this to page 2.....correct?.

    @mudfly said:

    Hmmm....one "quote" comment would take this to page 2.....correct?.

    Apparently... Well done!

    The PFF articles comment about our O-line having "no negative grades" got me thinking. While I know it's true, how true?

    Going to start another thread, "O-line Grades at 2014's Quarter-pole."

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