Interesting Options Developing in Browns QB Situation
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wow! Are you going to do something nasty to her? Why Tuesday?FUCK THAT GROVELING C U NEXT TUESDAY.
wow! Are you going to do something nasty to her? Why Tuesday?
Wasn't that a former Cav's coaches quote? Former.
Hoyer is betting on himself, and has been even before the season started when he had all the negative tags. Career backup. Coming off major injury. I gotta admit l admire that.
I don't know about this report though. I think Hoyer's a self starter, but l still think drafting Manziel turned that burner up to 11 under his ass, and so far l'm digging the results.
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Franchise Brian? No... Don't see top 5 bucks in his future.
I've said before a good, three-ish year deal with a mutual option year, and a base salary in the top half of starters plus incentives should do the trick. At least I believe this will do it now... but the longer we wait...
And Johnny's no issue if Brian goes into camps as THE announced starter for as long as he is on this roll. No telling how long that will be...
Will Hoyer give the Browns a hometown discount? He might. $20 million guaranteed (at least) will set him up for life. The franchise tag for a qb is $16 million- I don't see Hoyer as being the greedy type to extract the last dime out of the Browns. You saw it already- as long as he's winning, he owns the town- stuff hanging over the walls- Hoyer the Destroyer & This is Hoyer Country. BTW, should Brian take the Browns to the playoffs (maybe a little early to start thinking along those lines) , he's untradeable- the fans would riot.
Trade Manziel? Way dumb, it's not happening- he's on a cheap rookie contract, and this is an ideal situation. Sit and learn. Short of an injury, JF isn't seeing the field this year. It might get more difficult a few years down the road, if Hoyer continues showing he's the first competent qb the Browns have had since Bernie Kosar.
Will Hoyer give the Browns a hometown discount? He might. $20 million guaranteed (at least) will set him up for life.
I didn't even think about guaranteed money... $20M as part of essentially a 4-year deal seems about right.
Keep both. Dumb to even consider trading one of only 2 QBs on our current 53-man roster. Manziel is 1 play away from being our starting QB. The longer he is on the bench, the better it will be for him. Hoyer gets an extension at the end of the season, and Manziel remains backup until needed. After his rookie deal, he can either walk, we can trade him, or maybe he becomes our starter... too early to make a move here...
Well, first there's Shaw sitting as well. But let's go hypothetical...
There's a QB in Dallas that is at least as close to a hit away from season's end as Hoyer...
Say the Big D QB gets hit first...
A certain GM/ owner sees his dream season evaporating in the hands of a certain backup QB...
We shall call this QB, "Wheezy"...
And Farmer's phone rings...
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oh jesus the poor cowboys, I forgot that guy was there.
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wow! Are you going to do something nasty to her? Why Tuesday?FUCK THAT GROVELING C U NEXT TUESDAY.
...right?wow! Are you going to do something nasty to her? Why Tuesday?
C U Next Tuesday
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I don't care if MKC is just reporting shit from another site, she's the beat reporter for the main Cleveland newspaper. She has to know this story is like dropping tacks in the locker room. The fuck is wrong with her or any other dumbass Cleveland reporter willing to repeat this tripe. Deal with this after the fucking season not now FFS. Previous poster was right, it hasn't even been a day and a half since our biggest win since 99...let us go till mid week before you chop that high off at the knees
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wow! Are you going to do something nasty to her? Why Tuesday?
Wasn't that a former Cav's coaches quote? Former.
Hoyer is betting on himself, and has been even before the season started when he had all the negative tags. Career backup. Coming off major injury. I gotta admit l admire that.
I don't know about this report though. I think Hoyer's a self starter, but l still think drafting Manziel turned that burner up to 11 under his ass, and so far l'm digging the results.
I don't know about this report though. I think Hoyer's a self starter, but l still think drafting Manziel turned that burner up to 11 under his ass, and so far l'm digging the results.
Dunno, Ibb...
I think if JM had knuckled down and learned the playbook things might be a whole lot different around Brown Town.
BH really did not come on until he was given the 3rd Preseason Start and effectively the job. Until then the "competition" seemed to be getting to him. I seem to recall Pettine saying as much a little later on.
Anywho... water under the dam now...
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Didn't you all see the Jason Cole video? In his opinion, Hoyer would not accept a contract with Manziel in Cleveland. So he thinks keeping both won't be an option if we want Hoyer long term. He also said that with every win, Hoyer gets more expensive so the sooner the Browns sign him, the better. By his theory, we could keep Hoyer one more year with a a Franchise Tag. But if we want to save money, the better idea might be to sign Hoyer and trade Manziel.
Sorry, I assumed everyone knew what I was talking about.
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Direct link to the Cole "interview" in Bleacher...
Cole drops his little bomb near the end...
"...but if Manziel is still there I don't think Hoyer is going to take a long-term deal with the presence of Manziel. I don't think it's going to play out that way according to all the people I've talked to who are involved in this."
If people in the know are telling him this is Hoyer's condition for a deal, then Cole would not have to "think"... he'd know...
Seems like much ado about nothing from an insider wannabe...
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Whole 'nother thread with links and stuff...
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30555
Did not even realize yours was based upon the same garbage reporting...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't care if MKC is just reporting shit from another site, she's the beat reporter for the main Cleveland newspaper. She has to know this story is like dropping tacks in the locker room. The fuck is wrong with her or any other dumbass Cleveland reporter willing to repeat this tripe. Deal with this after the fucking season not now FFS. Previous poster was right, it hasn't even been a day and a half since our biggest win since 99...let us go till mid week before you chop that high off at the knees
I don't care if MKC is just reporting shit from another site, she's the beat reporter for the main Cleveland newspaper. She has to know this story is like dropping tacks in the locker room. The fuck is wrong with her or any other dumbass Cleveland reporter willing to repeat this tripe. Deal with this after the fucking season not now FFS. Previous poster was right, it hasn't even been a day and a half since our biggest win since 99...let us go till mid week before you chop that high off at the knees
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Whole 'nother thread with links and stuff...
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30555
Did not even realize yours was based upon the same garbage reporting...
Whole 'nother thread with links and stuff...
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30555
Did not even realize yours was based upon the same garbage reporting...
For sure Tour- some guys here are already going off on a regurgitation of unsubstantiated garbage by MKC off a freaking Bleacher Report interview? Like what are this guys sources anyway? Voices in your head, like Mike H? Remember Mike H was so damn sure Manziel was easily going to beat out Hoyer for the starting job. Do you guys realize almost any hack with a computer can sign up to post articles on Bleacher report? You can start 1\2 believing this crap if guys like Mort & Schefter start saying it on BSPN.
Same BR goober who was laughing at me suggesting- just maybe, possibly- this could be another Kurt Warner situation back in April.
For those old enough to remember Cheech & Chong's Sister Mary Elephant- CLASS!!!! CHILL OUT!!!!!
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Fuck that bitch.
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Let's just stick to the Jags. Future QB speculation is for the offseason.
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@douche-nozzle said:
Ahhh come on! I can't even point out how JF fucked up a few cheerleaders and cars in college?
Texas A&M does not have cheerleaders. They are male yell leaders. LOL!
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Keep both. Sign Hoyer to a new deal. Keep Johnny around while he learns the offense. If Hoyer goes down, you end up with a backup who has known only one NFL offense. No learning curve or extreme drop off.
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Didn't you all see the Jason Cole video? In his opinion, Hoyer would not accept a contract with Manziel in Cleveland. So he thinks keeping both won't be an option if we want Hoyer long term. He also said that with every win, Hoyer gets more expensive so the sooner the Browns sign him, the better. By his theory, we could keep Hoyer one more year with a a Franchise Tag. But if we want to save money, the better idea might be to sign Hoyer and trade Manziel.
Sorry, I assumed everyone knew what I was talking about.
Didn't you all see the Jason Cole video? In his opinion, Hoyer would not accept a contract with Manziel in Cleveland. So he thinks keeping both won't be an option if we want Hoyer long term. He also said that with every win, Hoyer gets more expensive so the sooner the Browns sign him, the better. By his theory, we could keep Hoyer one more year with a a Franchise Tag. But if we want to save money, the better idea might be to sign Hoyer and trade Manziel.
Sorry, I assumed everyone knew what I was talking about.
No way a QB has that kind of pull unless he's elite and in tight with the Owner/GM.
We also have the option of doing the Transition tag like we did with Mack - that would let the Market set his value and we could match.
This whole thing all started over some Bleacher Report blurb.
Some BR articles are okay, but quite a few others are just throwing crap on the wall and seeing what sticks.
Seriously, I think Hoyer's smart enough to know that we need a good backup QB, especially as he's just coming back from an ACL injury.
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You know if I was in front office I would wait. This is a planned PR plan to make Johnny F news worthy again. If you know and watch Hoyer this junk does not sound like him .
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After watching the vid and seeing Hoyers reaction... i think its true. Why not just say its not true if its not true? I'm thinking he is sick and tired of the whole stadium being filled with #2 jerseys. Either way i see this as a dick move on Hoyers behalf, he aint no GM.
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FUCK!
And in the distance I can hear the JM Fanboys stampeding back to the forum...
Reading the comments Johnny sounds kind of more like a team player.
You said it yourself... Johnny Media. But in the locker room? on the sideline? Who knows...
Anyway... sounds bullshitish to me...
Agent has not been in negotiations since May...
It's Mary Kay citing a Bleacher Report...
Play ball...
EDIT: Thanks, Mud... I feel better now...
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