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  • i was surprised to see hawkins numbers yesterday. great game for a slot receiver which didn't translate to the scoreboard. don't agree 100% that our OL was the cause for our lack in the running game. quick eye test: murray. then tate. one is a monster that attacks everything in front of him. the other looks for a hole that isn't there. nuff said on that.

    i'm all in on LB and OL help. like i said in another post just keep drafting wisconsin's front OL and LSU or FLA ST. DL every fricking year. but we need a stud WR (gordon insurance) and you usually don't find them in the later rounds.

    LBs, O and Dline can find later.

    thing is, we lost a trap game. we're still all pissed. let's see what this staff can do so we don't become another lame duck vs. oakland.

  • Yes, to early for serious draft talk, but there are obvious holes to fill. We need to know if QB is one of them, and there's

    Time to figure that out. O-line depth can be had later in draft. Defense may actually be where the draft can help the most.

  • Yes, to early for serious draft talk, but there are obvious holes to fill. We need to know if QB is one of them, and there's

    Time to figure that out. O-line depth can be had later in draft. Defense may actually be where the draft can help the most.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Yes, to early for serious draft talk, but there are obvious holes to fill. We need to know if QB is one of them, and there's

    Time to figure that out. O-line depth can be had later in draft. Defense may actually be where the draft can help the most.

    you know what's funny is you look up and we're at the half point of the football season already.

    i really felt throughout this stretch a lot of positives with the FO and coaching staff and i still do BUT every game means sooo much that you let these so-called 'easy' games slip by and you're 5-11 again.

  • Damn Bills!!! Stop winning!

  • If only we had drafted Mosley instead of Gilbert. Of course, hindsight is a wonderful thing...

    @londonbrown said:

    If only we had drafted Mosley instead of Gilbert. Of course, hindsight is a wonderful thing...

    Liked Mosley but if we defense, Mack was the boy. We get to see him next week against Oakland. There's defensive rookie of the year talk with him right now, especially since Clowney's been out. But even when Clowney wasn't hurt I still read that Mack was outplaying everyone. Mack was someone we could have moved around everywhere. He could sub in for our OLB'ers but we could also have played him next to Dansby to learn from, what we were told, was possibly the best ILB in the NFL not wearing a SF jersey. Now I'm not so sure obviously. But Mack was a beast, I really really really wanted him. Basically take the skillset and speed of Von Miller but add size and strength. And that's as a rookie. In a couple years Mack may be one of the most dominant defensive players in the NFL because he's more versatile than Clowney. But we've got Gilbert so fuck yay for us.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    However, today really made me wonder whether we have to go LB'er or OL in next years draft. I'm fucking done with Dansby even though he had a sack. That's like all he does. He gets in once or twice a game and pressures and/or sacks the qb. Every running play goes right at him and Kirksey. All the teams know where our run weakness is even though most fans have been loathe to admit it. We got conned by Dansby. He was the product of the system in Arizona...Hortons I believe. Maybe if Horton had stayed on as DC we'd see something out of him. He's not particularly fast, he's not particularly strong. Poluszny showed us today how a real mike stops the run. He fought his way through our blockers and met our RB's in the hole. In Dansby's own words he compared himself to the 49'er LB'ers. Willis and Bowman are both out...and I'd still take their 2nd string ILB'ers over Dansby. Wilhoite and Borland are doing a decent job of filling in for WIllis and Bowman.

    So yeah another rant about our ILB'ers...I'm over it. The team gave us a pretty decent season so far so I'm done complaining. Half the starting front 7 is out and/or gimped like Kruger who looks like the 2013 version of himself again. So I'll take it...we blew out the steelers so cheers, lol. Just time to start paying more attention to College I guess and seeing who we could potentially be drafting.

    but but but everyone said he was a major upgrade from DQ Jackson? Lol.

    I'm not going to write him off yet, that was the first game he stuck out for terrible play. Having said that, his ceiling isn't too high either...just saying

    @cbus-brownie said:

    , that was the first game he stuck out for terrible play. Having said that, his ceiling isn't too high either...just saying

    I've been noticing he isn't very good from opening day, I don't know what else you guys have been seeing for 6 games. He's made some big plays on the QB so I think that got him a pass from a lot of you guys on his run defense.....which has been utterly terrible since day one. He made his numbers in Hortons system in Arizona, like the rest of our DL last year, so something has to be up with this scheme change. Fuck what I have no idea.

  • Don't get me started with the draft yet. I already have my top 25 for the Browns, in no particular order:

    Amari Cooper - WR - Alabama (Of course, if Buffalo or us suck enough to get a top 8 pick)

    Austin HIll - WR - Arizona

    Sammie Coates - WR - Auburn

    Shawn Oakman - DE - Baylor

    Corey Crawford - DE - Clemson

    Mario Edwards Jr. - DE/DT - Florida State

    Ray Drew - DE - Georiga

    Ramik Wilson - ILB - Georiga

    Brandon Scherff - OT/OG - Iowa

    Melvin Lewis - NT - Kentucky

    Denzel Perryman - ILB - Miami(FL)

    Shillique Calhoun - DE/OLB - Mich St *3-4 OLB project

    Benardick McKinney - ILB - Mississippi St

    Markus Golden - DE/OLB - Missouri *3-4 OLB project

    Shane Ray - DE/OLB - Missouri *3-4 OLB project

    Randy Gregory - DE/OLB - Nebraska *3-4 OLB project

    Christian Lombard - OG - Notre Dame

    Geneo Grissom - OLB - Oklahoma

    Jake Fisher - OT - Oregon

    Ty Montgomery - WR - Stanford

    A.J. Johnson - ILB - Tennessee

    Malcom Brown - DT - Texas

    Cedric Ogbuehi - OT/OG - Texas A&M (but he hasn't looked quite as good this year as last)

    Leonard Williams - DE - USC

    Danny Shelton - DT - Washington

    These are just a few, and I don't know how many are underclassmen, but they seem to be good fits for our team...

    Long way to go until draft day...

  • Yes, to early for serious draft talk, but there are obvious holes to fill. We need to know if QB is one of them, and there's

    Time to figure that out. O-line depth can be had later in draft. Defense may actually be where the draft can help the most.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Yes, to early for serious draft talk, but there are obvious holes to fill. We need to know if QB is one of them, and there's

    Time to figure that out. O-line depth can be had later in draft. Defense may actually be where the draft can help the most.

    Aren't going to find out if QB is one of them this year pretty much regardless of how either one plays.

  • Don't get me started with the draft yet. I already have my top 25 for the Browns, in no particular order:

    Amari Cooper - WR - Alabama (Of course, if Buffalo or us suck enough to get a top 8 pick)

    Austin HIll - WR - Arizona

    Sammie Coates - WR - Auburn

    Shawn Oakman - DE - Baylor

    Corey Crawford - DE - Clemson

    Mario Edwards Jr. - DE/DT - Florida State

    Ray Drew - DE - Georiga

    Ramik Wilson - ILB - Georiga

    Brandon Scherff - OT/OG - Iowa

    Melvin Lewis - NT - Kentucky

    Denzel Perryman - ILB - Miami(FL)

    Shillique Calhoun - DE/OLB - Mich St *3-4 OLB project

    Benardick McKinney - ILB - Mississippi St

    Markus Golden - DE/OLB - Missouri *3-4 OLB project

    Shane Ray - DE/OLB - Missouri *3-4 OLB project

    Randy Gregory - DE/OLB - Nebraska *3-4 OLB project

    Christian Lombard - OG - Notre Dame

    Geneo Grissom - OLB - Oklahoma

    Jake Fisher - OT - Oregon

    Ty Montgomery - WR - Stanford

    A.J. Johnson - ILB - Tennessee

    Malcom Brown - DT - Texas

    Cedric Ogbuehi - OT/OG - Texas A&M (but he hasn't looked quite as good this year as last)

    Leonard Williams - DE - USC

    Danny Shelton - DT - Washington

    These are just a few, and I don't know how many are underclassmen, but they seem to be good fits for our team...

    Long way to go until draft day...

    @thenew23 said:

    These are just a few, and I don't know how many are underclassmen, but they seem to be good fits for our team...

    Long way to go until draft day...

    Don't know if you're biased or haven't watched him play or just left him out but Devin Funchess needs to be on your list.

  • Dansby was brought in for his coverage abilities, as was Kirksey. If the DLine were doing their jobs, the guys we have now would look better.