Can we just enjoy the season?
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The talking heads do it to hold listeners & increase ratings. Sometimes its worthwhile, many times it isn't.
The world was simpler with less coverage of news & sports; now its 24/7 and you might have to restrict the listening & viewing. I used to love WKNR, now I hardly listen. Baskin & Phelps are probably my favorite as of now.
As much of a sports junkie I am, I am not a big fan of Thursday Night football every week- most of the games are crap, the players aren't rested enough from the Sunday game.
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I guess thats 1 bonus about living out here on the West Coast. I don't get the opportunity to listen Cleveland sports talk radio. My info is usually obtained from this site, and NFL Sunday Ticket. There have been so many years of embarrassment and despair, that I truly believe that some Fans (use the rearm loosely) are so programed after time of just "Bitching" and wanting change, that they don't realize that they do it, its almost like brainwashing.
I however like all of you love the season so far, Its great being in the games in the 2nd half, and not out cutting my lawn. Go Browns. On a side note, The new UNI's, I've seen people post mock ups, but has there been any authentic pictures or release, i looked back on this site couldn't find the older post.
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The problem is that we just lost to what could be the worst team in the NFL and are now 3-3, which is only good enough for LAST place in our division. the AFC north schedule is very favorable this year and we need to win all of those favorable match-ups. The fact that we didn't do that is the problem because the rest of or division is sure to do so and that is gonna bury our chances of the playoffs.
I'm afraid we are looking at another Derek Anderson scenario here. Except Anderson had a way better year as far as a QB than Hoyer could even dream of having. D.A. had a huge year against a crap schedule and didn't make the playoffs with a ten win season, and we all see how good he turned out to be when so many thought he was gonna be the savior. Hoyer stat line is nothing close to D.A. from that season and the schedule is equally as crappy so I fear we will become victimized by this again. Hoyer will continue to get some wins over some garbage teams and most will think he is the answered (Just like many did with Anderson) and we will get burned in the end.
Listen I'm not saying Hoyer is crap, I'm just saying that he is not the future. Don't know if Johnny is either but I just hope noone gets fooled into thinking Hoyer is.
Hoyer = Decent QB very low ceiling
Johnny= Who nows how good (or bad) he can be but ceiling is way higher than Hoyer. For all of those that hate him must have never watched him in college because this kid could flat out play. Oh and btw I'm pretty sure we just seen that is low can't be any worse than that of what we just watched from Hoyer.
We are still in trouble at QB people, Don't let just how many games we win fool you on that cuz with this schedule, I got news for ya, we are gonna need 11 wins to get in. So for those of us that had expectations of those 11 wins are NOT happy at 3-3 right now. Should have easily been 4-2 and hell should have easily been 6-2 after eight but who the hell knows after what I seen last week. I dont expect to all the sudden be able go out and woop on the broncos and go to the super bowl or anything but for the love of god I thought we were good enough to stop losing to what is considered one of the 2 or 3 worst teams in the league. This needs to stop happening and we should stop making excuses for why it does.
THEY SHOULD BE BETTER THAN THIS
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The problem is that we just lost to what could be the worst team in the NFL and are now 3-3, which is only good enough for LAST place in our division. the AFC north schedule is very favorable this year and we need to win all of those favorable match-ups. The fact that we didn't do that is the problem because the rest of or division is sure to do so and that is gonna bury our chances of the playoffs.
I'm afraid we are looking at another Derek Anderson scenario here. Except Anderson had a way better year as far as a QB than Hoyer could even dream of having. D.A. had a huge year against a crap schedule and didn't make the playoffs with a ten win season, and we all see how good he turned out to be when so many thought he was gonna be the savior. Hoyer stat line is nothing close to D.A. from that season and the schedule is equally as crappy so I fear we will become victimized by this again. Hoyer will continue to get some wins over some garbage teams and most will think he is the answered (Just like many did with Anderson) and we will get burned in the end.
Listen I'm not saying Hoyer is crap, I'm just saying that he is not the future. Don't know if Johnny is either but I just hope noone gets fooled into thinking Hoyer is.
Hoyer = Decent QB very low ceiling
Johnny= Who nows how good (or bad) he can be but ceiling is way higher than Hoyer. For all of those that hate him must have never watched him in college because this kid could flat out play. Oh and btw I'm pretty sure we just seen that is low can't be any worse than that of what we just watched from Hoyer.
We are still in trouble at QB people, Don't let just how many games we win fool you on that cuz with this schedule, I got news for ya, we are gonna need 11 wins to get in. So for those of us that had expectations of those 11 wins are NOT happy at 3-3 right now. Should have easily been 4-2 and hell should have easily been 6-2 after eight but who the hell knows after what I seen last week. I dont expect to all the sudden be able go out and woop on the broncos and go to the super bowl or anything but for the love of god I thought we were good enough to stop losing to what is considered one of the 2 or 3 worst teams in the league. This needs to stop happening and we should stop making excuses for why it does.
THEY SHOULD BE BETTER THAN THIS
I thought we were good enough to stop losing to what is considered one of the 2 or 3 worst teams in the league. This needs to stop happening and we should stop making excuses for why it does.
We have a winner^
If The Browns want to truly show signs of progress, they have to beat Tampa and Oakland.
I'm so fucking over "moral" victories and "keep your head up" attitude.
It's time we start slitting throats and getting our own.
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I think there are some guys who will end up bitching all the way
to the Browns being in the super bowl,
and after the Browns win it.
Enough already. Let's enjoy the season, shall we?
I think there are some guys who will end up bitching all the way
to the Browns being in the super bowl,
and after the Browns win it.
Enough already. Let's enjoy the season, shall we?
Every win is very enjoyable for us all. But seriously did you really have a wonderful time watching that game last sunday. Was that really an enjoyable time for you................ Are you on the right teams board? this is the browns board. You know the team with the Orange helmets that just Got absolutly destroyed last week. Enjoyable...........Really you've got to be kidding
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There is a shrill internet mob of Browns fans that are like happy to lose or content with moral victories.
They are fucking pathetic.
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There is a shrill internet mob of Browns fans that are like happy to lose or content with moral victories.
They are fucking pathetic.
There is a shrill internet mob of Browns fans that are like happy to lose or content with moral victories.
They are fucking pathetic.
And then you have the douchebags that complain after every game no matter the outcome...
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Every year, most rookies don't start. Some do - but not even half. This past week was the first game that Clinton-Dix started for the Packers.
Many QB's start as rookies - but many also sit and learn. Nobody's saying Hoyer is Brett Favre, but Hoyer performs better than Manziel at this point... and that's all that matters.
CB is a tough position.. if Patrick Peterson is having trouble [8 penalties on him so far this year] then everyone will, and Gilbert is no different.
I remember everyone was expecting Bitonio to be some skill position player.. man, does that pick look prescient right now.
One more first round OL pick next year and we should be able to withstand injury on our way to the super bowl
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I can't complain I've seen then win a few games this year before I deploy.
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Every win is very enjoyable for us all. But seriously did you really have a wonderful time watching that game last sunday. Was that really an enjoyable time for you................ Are you on the right teams board? this is the browns board. You know the team with the Orange helmets that just Got absolutly destroyed last week. Enjoyable...........Really you've got to be kidding. Sir Barfsalot
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No, it was a miserable game. But like most of us, I'm smart to know that there were reasons they
were struggling. It isn't like they didn't lose their All-pro starting center. And three of their dlinemen.
And the Jags have a -lot- of talent, and it's the NFL. The Browns stunk up the joint on offense, and the
defense started fading and had trouble stopping the run. But, like most of us, I'm upbeat about the upcoming
games, and playing miserable IS NOT GOING TO BE ALL SEASON. It was one, miserable game.
I'm just seeing the forest instead of one tree. What, it was a devastating blow to your manhood, that they didn't
live up to your expectations at all, one game? If they get it together again, and get their timing back, and blow out
Oakland and TBay, you going to do a two week happy dance and post a ton of really excited happy posts?
I'd rather keep an even keel.
PS - Your bitching doesn't do anything constructive for the Browns, in case you didn't know, Sir Debbie Downalot.
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Just watched the Ole Miss - LSU game. I like to root against LSU.
But Bo Wallace, of Ole Miss, has been playing great this season. Until tonight.
Tonight, Bo lost it, his oline was overrun, and the harder he tried to make things work,
he started overthrowing wide open wr's badly.
But, they were overmatched against LSU's defense. And, they were playing away, with a
jet engine crowd noise at the LSU stadium.
Bo sucks as a qb? NO. But he played poorly, as did the oline, and the running game.
Right as LSU finally got a TD to take the lead, 10 - 7, Ole Miss had to go downfield to
get a field goal.
And, Bo throws it way downfield, and HAHA ! They got a first down in field goal range!
Because LSU, imho a dirty defensive team.....was flagrantly guilty of pass interference.
And..... Ole Miss got a delay of game, apparently because they couldn't hear the call,
couldn't get the snap off in time.
So, weirdly, it was still only a 47 yard field goal. So, Ole Miss goes back out, Bo throws
for a TD to win the game..... Except, it was a very, very poor decision and throw, and it was intercepted by LSU.
It happens. Sometimes, your offense gets outmatched, can't control the los, and the qb play
goes into the toilet. Couldn't run the ball.....
I look for Hoyer and the guys to man up and make a huge comeback this next few weeks.
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Some of you should stop watching the browns. You are so fucking negative. Fuck off. Fuck manziel. did you guys cry on Christmas as kids because you didn't get that Barbie you wanted. Nagging fucking old hens. Fuck you. Pick a different team to watch. Let the restt of enjoy our browns. Go Fuck yourself.
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To answer your question, maybe. If we go one and nine for the rest of this season the answer is No. I'm not going to enjoy a 4 and 12 season. I watched one last year and didn't like it so why would I like another one?
WSS
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No one wants losing season.everyone is acting like the season is over after a bad lose.
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We also had weeden at the helm
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Just watched the Ole Miss - LSU game. I like to root against LSU.
But Bo Wallace, of Ole Miss, has been playing great this season. Until tonight.
Tonight, Bo lost it, his oline was overrun, and the harder he tried to make things work,
he started overthrowing wide open wr's badly.
But, they were overmatched against LSU's defense. And, they were playing away, with a
jet engine crowd noise at the LSU stadium.
Bo sucks as a qb? NO. But he played poorly, as did the oline, and the running game.
Right as LSU finally got a TD to take the lead, 10 - 7, Ole Miss had to go downfield to
get a field goal.
And, Bo throws it way downfield, and HAHA ! They got a first down in field goal range!
Because LSU, imho a dirty defensive team.....was flagrantly guilty of pass interference.
And..... Ole Miss got a delay of game, apparently because they couldn't hear the call,
couldn't get the snap off in time.
So, weirdly, it was still only a 47 yard field goal. So, Ole Miss goes back out, Bo throws
for a TD to win the game..... Except, it was a very, very poor decision and throw, and it was intercepted by LSU.
It happens. Sometimes, your offense gets outmatched, can't control the los, and the qb play
goes into the toilet. Couldn't run the ball.....
I look for Hoyer and the guys to man up and make a huge comeback this next few weeks.
... Bo Wallace, of Ole Miss, has been playing great this season. Until tonight.
... Bo throws for a TD to win the game..... Except, it was a very, very poor decision and throw, and it was intercepted by LSU.
... and decision making is at the heart of our QB choice. Clearly it is why BH wins our starts over JM.
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I understand you will always have naysayers. I have no problem with that. And I also understand that the team and players should be criticized and held accountable when they don't play well.
I'm just sick of the fact that Johnny Football being on the roster is dominating the season. The Browns are making improvement - you don't go from where we were to the Super Bowl in one year. And if Johnny isn't on the roster, that is the talk of the season. But when we lose, it's put Johnny in. And when we win, it is still put Johnny in.
The fan boys need to look at it from a different perspective. What was Hoyer coming into this season? A local kid with 3 career starts, never mind at this point that they were all wins.
Coming into the season, Hoyer was 29 years old, only 3 career starts, coming off a knee injury and going to be a free agent. Think about that for a minute and realize that the easiest thing for the coaching staff to do would be to play Johnny Football. I mean, why would the coaching staff even bother with somebody in Hoyer's situation with a future, first-ballot hall of famer on their bench?!?
I hate to burst the fan boy's bubble, but there is only one logical reason that Manziel isn't playing - he isn't good enough.
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I understand you will always have naysayers. I have no problem with that. And I also understand that the team and players should be criticized and held accountable when they don't play well.
I'm just sick of the fact that Johnny Football being on the roster is dominating the season. The Browns are making improvement - you don't go from where we were to the Super Bowl in one year. And if Johnny isn't on the roster, that is the talk of the season. But when we lose, it's put Johnny in. And when we win, it is still put Johnny in.
The fan boys need to look at it from a different perspective. What was Hoyer coming into this season? A local kid with 3 career starts, never mind at this point that they were all wins.
Coming into the season, Hoyer was 29 years old, only 3 career starts, coming off a knee injury and going to be a free agent. Think about that for a minute and realize that the easiest thing for the coaching staff to do would be to play Johnny Football. I mean, why would the coaching staff even bother with somebody in Hoyer's situation with a future, first-ballot hall of famer on their bench?!?
I hate to burst the fan boy's bubble, but there is only one logical reason that Manziel isn't playing - he isn't good enough.
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