Interesting Options Developing in Browns QB Situation
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I agree on this team Hoyer is the best option. Unfortunately Wilson and Foles were also available without much work. That is the plan that I've always liked for bad teams and unfortunately this is a bad team.
Wilson and Foles are not the same as Luck. Yea it'd be great to find our own Luck, but most of the teams in the league would also like to find their Andrew Luck. Very few of those guys come around per decade.
I still think Hoyer is good enough to command a playoff team. His accuracy has been a little suspect at times this year - and has probably been his biggest problem. His decision making has been above average. I would go as far as to say he's the biggest reason we won 2/3 of our games this year.
Today, he along with the entire offense and play calling was horrendous. Lets see what they do about it next week.
Wilson and Foles are not the same as Luck. Yea it'd be great to find our own Luck, but most of the teams in the league would also like to find their Andrew Luck. Very few of those guys come around per decade.
I still think Hoyer is good enough to command a playoff team. His accuracy has been a little suspect at times this year - and has probably been his biggest problem. His decision making has been above average. I would go as far as to say he's the biggest reason we won 2/3 of our games this year.
Today, he along with the entire offense and play calling was horrendous. Lets see what they do about it next week.
I'd say his accuracy was a lot suspect today. There were times he had all day to throw on a deep route, and couldn't get the ball in the same area code. I said elsewhere the few times he was on target, his receivers didn't help him much
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Time to throw out the sunshine and rainbows....
This is a good opportunity to see how Hoyer responds to a poorly played game. All players have them. If he rocks the house vs Raiders then put another strength on his side.
Time to throw out the sunshine and rainbows....
This is a good opportunity to see how Hoyer responds to a poorly played game. All players have them. If he rocks the house vs Raiders then put another strength on his side.
can we keep the unicorns?
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So he is honest. Big deal. No QB would turn down a starting gig to be a backup..
I agree, no big deal in being honest, however I'd say that statement the minute we're above .500 takes him out of the running of players that have "more so than anybody...shown he's all about the team.."
I mean if Manziel said "Well if I'm not starting in Cleveland next year I'd rather be somewhere else" that may be honest, but I doubt anyone would then say "Wow, he's really all about the team". Nope. I bet people would actually say "What a selfish asshole to talk about that right now".
Seems it doesn't work both ways.
"What a selfish asshole to talk about that right now".
We are saying that... just not about Hoyer...
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could u imagine weeden with this run game? he would look all world thrwing bombs over the top.
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So he is honest. Big deal. No QB would turn down a starting gig to be a backup..
I agree, no big deal in being honest, however I'd say that statement the minute we're above .500 takes him out of the running of players that have "more so than anybody...shown he's all about the team.."
I mean if Manziel said "Well if I'm not starting in Cleveland next year I'd rather be somewhere else" that may be honest, but I doubt anyone would then say "Wow, he's really all about the team". Nope. I bet people would actually say "What a selfish asshole to talk about that right now".
Seems it doesn't work both ways.
I agree, no big deal in being honest, however I'd say that statement the minute we're above .500 takes him out of the running of players that have "more so than anybody...shown he's all about the team.."
I mean if Manziel said "Well if I'm not starting in Cleveland next year I'd rather be somewhere else" that may be honest, but I doubt anyone would then say "Wow, he's really all about the team". Nope. I bet people would actually say "What a selfish asshole to talk about that right now".
Seems it doesn't work both ways.
Another bullshit comparison.
First, preferring to start somewhere else, anywhere else is something any competitor would say. JM as much as said the same when asked about sitting behind Hoyer for an extended period of time. Who here raised that as an issue? No one that I saw.
Second, BH has done plenty to offset any negativity included in his statement. He worked hard to secure his starting role. He rehabbed hard. He studied hard. Even this week he worked after practice with his receivers to sharpen their timing. Praise for his work ethic has come from all corners.
What has JM done to endear himself?
JM has done nothing to offset any negativity associated
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So he is honest. Big deal. No QB would turn down a starting gig to be a backup..
I agree, no big deal in being honest, however I'd say that statement the minute we're above .500 takes him out of the running of players that have "more so than anybody...shown he's all about the team.."
I mean if Manziel said "Well if I'm not starting in Cleveland next year I'd rather be somewhere else" that may be honest, but I doubt anyone would then say "Wow, he's really all about the team". Nope. I bet people would actually say "What a selfish asshole to talk about that right now".
Seems it doesn't work both ways.
I mean if Manziel said "Well if I'm not starting in Cleveland next year I'd rather be somewhere else" that may be honest, but I doubt anyone would then say "Wow, he's really all about the team". Nope. I bet people would actually say "What a selfish asshole to talk about that right now".
Seems it doesn't work both ways.
Plus, Hoyer DIDNT talk about it right now. He tried to deflect it. He ignored it and he denied it. Allt because some lame "reporter" made up a story that got legs. And after Hoyer tried to ignore it and was hounded about it, he finally had to address it. And, after being badgered about the "non story", he gave a reply that would be expected from ANY pro. He said "i want to start". Thats not selfish behavior. Thats expected behavior.
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maybe if hoyer would have done a snickers commercial it would be more relevant right now and maybe a little funnier.
a betcha an ad exec will get fired for jumping on that manziel bandwagon train a little too quick.............like will they still be running it in 3 years?
sorta like the colt mccoy hardees commercial.
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Said it before and I'll say it again. I've seen enough from Hoyer to feel comfortable with him leading the offense in 2015, now let's see if Manziel's got anything. This team isn't playoff bound give Manziel a tryout and move forward.
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Said it before and I'll say it again. I've seen enough from Hoyer to feel comfortable with him leading the offense in 2015, now let's see if Manziel's got anything. This team isn't playoff bound give Manziel a tryout and move forward.
Said it before and I'll say it again. I've seen enough from Hoyer to feel comfortable with him leading the offense in 2015, now let's see if Manziel's got anything. This team isn't playoff bound give Manziel a tryout and move forward.
The team is 4-3 and in your feeble brain the season is over??
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Said it before and I'll say it again. I've seen enough from Hoyer to feel comfortable with him leading the offense in 2015, now let's see if Manziel's got anything. This team isn't playoff bound give Manziel a tryout and move forward.
The team is 4-3 and in your feeble brain the season is over??
The team is 4-3 and in your feeble brain the season is over??
I find it odd that moderators around here support a guy who threatens people and resort to name calling but .....Whatever.
Season isn't over until week 16. For two straight weeks against 2 teams with a total of one win the team has looked less than stellar. I still think 7-9 or 8-8 is a real possibility but I don't see a division championship or wildcard spot so this season should be used as a trial to see what players have going forward.
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You are aware that just last week Hoyer said that in 2015 being a promised a starting job is more important than staying in Cleveland, right?
Discredited again Stockton- I guess everything you read on the Internet must be true.
Plus, Hoyer DIDNT talk about it right now. He tried to deflect it. He ignored it and he denied it. Allt because some lame "reporter" made up a story that got legs. And after Hoyer tried to ignore it and was hounded about it, he finally had to address it. And, after being badgered about the "non story", he gave a reply that would be expected from ANY pro. He said "i want to start". Thats not selfish behavior. Thats expected behavior.
Exactly.
The team is 4-3 and in your feeble brain the season is over??
MMMMMMUUUUUUSSSSSTTTTT play Manziel Help me Obi-Wan, he's our only hope- to turn this winning season into another quarterback experiment.
OK, he may not be Hoyer the Destroyer- but he has the Browns at 4-3. As Aaron Rodgers said R-E-L-A-X people. Enjoy the ride, and expect some turbulence on the way.
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The team is 4-3 and in your feeble brain the season is over??
I find it odd that moderators around here support a guy who threatens people and resort to name calling but .....Whatever.
Season isn't over until week 16. For two straight weeks against 2 teams with a total of one win the team has looked less than stellar. I still think 7-9 or 8-8 is a real possibility but I don't see a division championship or wildcard spot so this season should be used as a trial to see what players have going forward.
I find it odd that moderators around here support a guy who threatens people and resort to name calling but .....Whatever.
There was no name calling in my post fuckhead. I said you have a feeble brain, that's an observation, not calling you names assclown.
Get it straight.
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I find it odd that moderators around here support a guy who threatens people and resort to name calling but .....Whatever.
There was no name calling in my post fuckhead. I said you have a feeble brain, that's an observation, not calling you names assclown.
Get it straight.
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Said it before and I'll say it again. I've seen enough from Hoyer to feel comfortable with him leading the offense in 2015, now let's see if Manziel's got anything. This team isn't playoff bound give Manziel a tryout and move forward.
Said it before and I'll say it again. I've seen enough from Hoyer to feel comfortable with him leading the offense in 2015, now let's see if Manziel's got anything. This team isn't playoff bound give Manziel a tryout and move forward.
You're comfortable with Hoyer playing... great. How much are you comfortable paying him?
If and when we are eliminated, I'll agree. But you owe it to the team, the 2014 team, to start your best while you are still in the hunt.
Season isn't over until week 16. For two straight weeks against 2 teams with a total of one win the team has looked less than stellar. I still think 7-9 or 8-8 is a real possibility but I don't see a division championship or wildcard spot so this season should be used as a trial to see what players have going forward.
I actually agree with your season analysis. I do not see playoffs this year, but us not seeing it is no reason to shut down a starter. See above...
Plus you have to remember
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You are aware that just last week Hoyer said that in 2015 being a promised a starting job is more important than staying in Cleveland, right?
Discredited again Stockton- I guess everything you read on the Internet must be true.
Plus, Hoyer DIDNT talk about it right now. He tried to deflect it. He ignored it and he denied it. Allt because some lame "reporter" made up a story that got legs. And after Hoyer tried to ignore it and was hounded about it, he finally had to address it. And, after being badgered about the "non story", he gave a reply that would be expected from ANY pro. He said "i want to start". Thats not selfish behavior. Thats expected behavior.
Exactly.
The team is 4-3 and in your feeble brain the season is over??
MMMMMMUUUUUUSSSSSTTTTT play Manziel Help me Obi-Wan, he's our only hope- to turn this winning season into another quarterback experiment.
OK, he may not be Hoyer the Destroyer- but he has the Browns at 4-3. As Aaron Rodgers said R-E-L-A-X people. Enjoy the ride, and expect some turbulence on the way.
Discredited again Stockton- I guess everything you read on the Internet must be true.
Exactly.
MMMMMMUUUUUUSSSSSTTTTT play Manziel Help me Obi-Wan, he's our only hope- to turn this winning season into another quarterback experiment.
OK, he may not be Hoyer the Destroyer- but he has the Browns at 4-3. As Aaron Rodgers said R-E-L-A-X people. Enjoy the ride, and expect some turbulence on the way.
Hoorta, completely agree, my fear is Hoyer continues to play solid and the team goes 8-8 with just the normal inconsistencies but Manziel still sits there being "Their Guy". If Hoyer stumbles or the team struggles Manziel will get the nod and the experiment will begin. With Hoyer I think we know what we have and at this point I think we are all ok with it. I don't see Manziel sitting for two straight seasons but if that's the plan the team will have to pony up some cash for Hoyer, and he'll want guaranteed money. So either you play the guy you're paying or the guy who you drafted in the 1st round, always a dicey situation.
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The team is 4-3 and in your feeble brain the season is over??
I find it odd that moderators around here support a guy who threatens people and resort to name calling but .....Whatever.
Season isn't over until week 16. For two straight weeks against 2 teams with a total of one win the team has looked less than stellar. I still think 7-9 or 8-8 is a real possibility but I don't see a division championship or wildcard spot so this season should be used as a trial to see what players have going forward.
I find it odd that moderators around here support a guy who threatens people and resort to name calling but .....Whatever.
Season isn't over until week 16. For two straight weeks against 2 teams with a total of one win the team has looked less than stellar. I still think 7-9 or 8-8 is a real possibility but I don't see a division championship or wildcard spot so this season should be used as a trial to see what players have going forward.
1) Don't take Mik seriously.
2) Hello? 4-3? What part of that don't you understand? Right now the Browns are one game out of a potential Wild Card spot, and you're already thinking about "Next Year"? GTFOOH. Get the f**ck out of here. I've been waiting for "Next Year" since 1964, and I hate to tell you, my patience is wearing mighty damn thin. Per his marching orders from Commandant Jimmy Haslam, Pettine is expected to win NOW- with this roster- not do yet another "well, golly gee, we're not going to the Super Bowl (and IMHO, that's probable) this year, so let's start evaluating backups to see what we've got. Hey- the coaching staff sees those backups every day in practice, so they know damn well what they've got.
Seriously- the one hit wonders around here were throwing Haden and Gilbert under the bus after a couple of bad games, so how does that crow taste right about now?
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I find it odd that moderators around here support a guy who threatens people and resort to name calling but .....Whatever.
There was no name calling in my post fuckhead. I said you have a feeble brain, that's an observation, not calling you names assclown.
Get it straight.
There was no name calling in my post fuckhead. I said you have a feeble brain, that's an observation, not calling you names assclown.
Get it straight.
There was in this one, "I booted you for being a negative whiney asswipe. Consider yourself lucky that I only booted you out and didn't ban you for the rest of the game.
If you don't like it....I don't give a damn. Try complaining to the management here, see how that works out for you."
Never said you called me a name but....Whatever
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There was no name calling in my post fuckhead. I said you have a feeble brain, that's an observation, not calling you names assclown.
Get it straight.
There was in this one, "I booted you for being a negative whiney asswipe. Consider yourself lucky that I only booted you out and didn't ban you for the rest of the game.
If you don't like it....I don't give a damn. Try complaining to the management here, see how that works out for you."
Never said you called me a name but....Whatever
There was in this one, "I booted you for being a negative whiney asswipe. Consider yourself lucky that I only booted you out and didn't ban you for the rest of the game.
If you don't like it....I don't give a damn. Try complaining to the management here, see how that works out for you."
Never said you called me a name but....Whatever
Oh for fucks sake...what are you the fucking nice police? Piss off and show up in the tavern next Sunday and I'll ban your ass out of there before you have a chance to get comfortable.
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