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  • @vagitron said:

    Miles Austin has like 233 yards receiving on the year, that's less than Wheaton. Hawkins is comparable but he's been treated as the one. Wheaton has been the number two but usually third in targets. Bryant is definitely just a rookie but based on the last two weeks no I don't believe either hawkins or Austin would start over him considering the physical measurables.

    Has the Steelers passing game, overall, made more yardage than the Browns? No argument. But just because some guy makes more yards does not make him a better receiver.

    And if a guy is better only because of physical measurables, then what were the Browns doing getting rid of Greg Little and Brian Robiskie? Those guys had the measurables as good as anyone.

    No tate is not comparable to bell and neither is crowell. Neither are bad backs but bell is on a differently level.

    Tate IS fairly comparable to Bell. He just isn't running as much as Bell. Bell just gets all the Steelers carries. The Browns are doing more RB by committee than the Steelers. They have 3 guys running the ball. All have more carries than Blount. If the Browns wanted to make Tate their featured back they could...but they don't really want to. If they did Tate could probably have comparable numbers. Right now though the Browns running game fell into a hole, so no one on their committee is getting much....and it is not because of their talent, but the OL problems.

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    @vagitron said:

    Miles Austin has like 233 yards receiving on the year, that's less than Wheaton. Hawkins is comparable but he's been treated as the one. Wheaton has been the number two but usually third in targets. Bryant is definitely just a rookie but based on the last two weeks no I don't believe either hawkins or Austin would start over him considering the physical measurables.

    Has the Steelers passing game, overall, made more yardage than the Browns? No argument. But just because some guy makes more yards does not make him a better receiver.

    And if a guy is better only because of physical measurables, then what were the Browns doing getting rid of Greg Little and Brian Robiskie? Those guys had the measurables as good as anyone.

    No tate is not comparable to bell and neither is crowell. Neither are bad backs but bell is on a differently level.

    Tate IS fairly comparable to Bell. He just isn't running as much as Bell. Bell just gets all the Steelers carries. The Browns are doing more RB by committee than the Steelers. They have 3 guys running the ball. All have more carries than Blount. If the Browns wanted to make Tate their featured back they could...but they don't really want to. If they did Tate could probably have comparable numbers. Right now though the Browns running game fell into a hole, so no one on their committee is getting much....and it is not because of their talent, but the OL problems.

    Gipper I don't want to hear about offensive line problems as bell was doing it when the steelers weren't blocking so great either. Bell has quite possibly the best field vision of any rb in the NFL. Tomlinson one of the best ever agrees. He also has almost 400 receiving yards. Averaging 4.9 yards per rush and 9 yards short of 700 on 141 attempts.

    Crowel also has exactly the same amount of carries as blount. Your point is insanely moot but thats par for the course when you argue. I've read several times the browns aren't even sure Tate is the guy they want to ride into the future.

  • @the-gipper said:

    @vagitron said:

    Miles Austin has like 233 yards receiving on the year, that's less than Wheaton. Hawkins is comparable but he's been treated as the one. Wheaton has been the number two but usually third in targets. Bryant is definitely just a rookie but based on the last two weeks no I don't believe either hawkins or Austin would start over him considering the physical measurables.

    Has the Steelers passing game, overall, made more yardage than the Browns? No argument. But just because some guy makes more yards does not make him a better receiver.

    And if a guy is better only because of physical measurables, then what were the Browns doing getting rid of Greg Little and Brian Robiskie? Those guys had the measurables as good as anyone.

    No tate is not comparable to bell and neither is crowell. Neither are bad backs but bell is on a differently level.

    Tate IS fairly comparable to Bell. He just isn't running as much as Bell. Bell just gets all the Steelers carries. The Browns are doing more RB by committee than the Steelers. They have 3 guys running the ball. All have more carries than Blount. If the Browns wanted to make Tate their featured back they could...but they don't really want to. If they did Tate could probably have comparable numbers. Right now though the Browns running game fell into a hole, so no one on their committee is getting much....and it is not because of their talent, but the OL problems.

    Gipper I don't want to hear about offensive line problems as bell was doing it when the steelers weren't blocking so great either. Bell has quite possibly the best field vision of any rb in the NFL. Tomlinson one of the best ever agrees. He also has almost 400 receiving yards. Averaging 4.9 yards per rush and 9 yards short of 700 on 141 attempts.

    Crowel also has exactly the same amount of carries as blount. Your point is insanely moot but thats par for the course when you argue. I've read several times the browns aren't even sure Tate is the guy they want to ride into the future.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @vagitron said:

    Gipper I don't want to hear about offensive line problems as bell was doing it when the steelers weren't blocking so great either. Bell has quite possibly the best field vision of any rb in the NFL. Tomlinson one of the best ever agrees. He also has almost 400 receiving yards. Averaging 4.9 yards per rush and 9 yards short of 700 on 141 attempts.

    Crowel also has exactly the same amount of carries as blount. Your point is insanely moot but thats par for the course when you argue. I've read several times the browns aren't even sure Tate is the guy they want to ride into the future.

    And Bell wasn't running all that great when the Steelers were having OL problems. And I didn't say that Bell didn't have better statistics...I said on the whole he and Tate are very close in their abilities. No doubt that Bell has had more chances. Tate has been out like 2 games with injuries...so obviously Bell is going to have more tries.

    And Crowell has 52 carries, where Blount has only 50. (per ESPN....maybe that source does not count yesterday's game....but if it didn't and Blount now has the same as Crowell, then Blount only had 3 carries yesterday....as Crowell only had 1. And my point is that Crowell is the Browns THIRD string RB....where Blount is #2 behind Bell. And my point is that the Browns have 3 RBs that have more carries and yards than the Steelers #2 back......and this is a fact even though the Steelers have played 1 more game than the Browns......who have played 7 where the Steelers have played 8.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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    god bless The Gipper. it's hard enough fighting the negative browns' fans on here let alone some stooler spooge.

  • cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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    Excluding talent I'd say he's on Josh Gordon level


    No tate is not comparable to bell and neither is crowell. Neither are bad backs but bell is on a differently level.

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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    I'm really hoping Colt McCoy tears shit up tonight.

  • I'm really hoping Colt McCoy tears shit up tonight.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @walterwhite said:

    I'm really hoping Colt McCoy tears shit up tonight.

    I hope he shits all over himself.

  • @walterwhite said:

    I'm really hoping Colt McCoy tears shit up tonight.

    I hope he shits all over himself.

    WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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    @mark-o said:

    I hope he shits all over himself.

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  • @vagitron said:

    Gipper I don't want to hear about offensive line problems as bell was doing it when the steelers weren't blocking so great either. Bell has quite possibly the best field vision of any rb in the NFL. Tomlinson one of the best ever agrees. He also has almost 400 receiving yards. Averaging 4.9 yards per rush and 9 yards short of 700 on 141 attempts.

    Crowel also has exactly the same amount of carries as blount. Your point is insanely moot but thats par for the course when you argue. I've read several times the browns aren't even sure Tate is the guy they want to ride into the future.

    And Bell wasn't running all that great when the Steelers were having OL problems. And I didn't say that Bell didn't have better statistics...I said on the whole he and Tate are very close in their abilities. No doubt that Bell has had more chances. Tate has been out like 2 games with injuries...so obviously Bell is going to have more tries.

    And Crowell has 52 carries, where Blount has only 50. (per ESPN....maybe that source does not count yesterday's game....but if it didn't and Blount now has the same as Crowell, then Blount only had 3 carries yesterday....as Crowell only had 1. And my point is that Crowell is the Browns THIRD string RB....where Blount is #2 behind Bell. And my point is that the Browns have 3 RBs that have more carries and yards than the Steelers #2 back......and this is a fact even though the Steelers have played 1 more game than the Browns......who have played 7 where the Steelers have played 8.

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    And Bell wasn't running all that great when the Steelers were having OL problems. And I didn't say that Bell didn't have better statistics...I said on the whole he and Tate are very close in their abilities. No doubt that Bell has had more chances. Tate has been out like 2 games with injuries...so obviously Bell is going to have more tries.

    And Crowell has 52 carries, where Blount has only 50. (per ESPN....maybe that source does not count yesterday's game....but if it didn't and Blount now has the same as Crowell, then Blount only had 3 carries yesterday....as Crowell only had 1. And my point is that Crowell is the Browns THIRD string RB....where Blount is #2 behind Bell. And my point is that the Browns have 3 RBs that have more carries and yards than the Steelers #2 back......and this is a fact even though the Steelers have played 1 more game than the Browns......who have played 7 where the Steelers have played 8.

    Gipper bell was running amazingly well, do you read what you post or research before you post AT all? Seriously, even just a little bit? Its obvious you don't.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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    i hope tony romo shits all over himself.........

    leading to trade rumours.....

    HA!

  • @the-gipper said:

    And Bell wasn't running all that great when the Steelers were having OL problems. And I didn't say that Bell didn't have better statistics...I said on the whole he and Tate are very close in their abilities. No doubt that Bell has had more chances. Tate has been out like 2 games with injuries...so obviously Bell is going to have more tries.

    And Crowell has 52 carries, where Blount has only 50. (per ESPN....maybe that source does not count yesterday's game....but if it didn't and Blount now has the same as Crowell, then Blount only had 3 carries yesterday....as Crowell only had 1. And my point is that Crowell is the Browns THIRD string RB....where Blount is #2 behind Bell. And my point is that the Browns have 3 RBs that have more carries and yards than the Steelers #2 back......and this is a fact even though the Steelers have played 1 more game than the Browns......who have played 7 where the Steelers have played 8.

    Gipper bell was running amazingly well, do you read what you post or research before you post AT all? Seriously, even just a little bit? Its obvious you don't.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @vagitron said:

    Gipper bell was running amazingly well, do you read what you post or research before you post AT all? Seriously, even just a little bit? Its obvious you don't.

    Tate has been out for two games, and the Browns have played one less game than the Steelers, Thus Bell has played 3 more games than him. Tate has 2 other runners that want/need carries, both of whom have been more productive than your second string guy. Bell has the statistical advantage...I never claimed otherwise, I mean...haven't you done your fucking research on all that? That does not mean that he has the talent advantage. No amount of research, other than watching them perform is going tell me otherwise.

  • @vagitron said:

    Gipper bell was running amazingly well, do you read what you post or research before you post AT all? Seriously, even just a little bit? Its obvious you don't.

    Tate has been out for two games, and the Browns have played one less game than the Steelers, Thus Bell has played 3 more games than him. Tate has 2 other runners that want/need carries, both of whom have been more productive than your second string guy. Bell has the statistical advantage...I never claimed otherwise, I mean...haven't you done your fucking research on all that? That does not mean that he has the talent advantage. No amount of research, other than watching them perform is going tell me otherwise.

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Tate has been out for two games, and the Browns have played one less game than the Steelers, Thus Bell has played 3 more games than him. Tate has 2 other runners that want/need carries, both of whom have been more productive than your second string guy. Bell has the statistical advantage...I never claimed otherwise, I mean...haven't you done your fucking research on all that? That does not mean that he has the talent advantage. No amount of research, other than watching them perform is going tell me otherwise.

    You very clearly only watch browns games. Bell's talent advantage is undeniable. I don't really care one way or another. Im just very glad bell is a steelers and not on some other team.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Tate has been out for two games, and the Browns have played one less game than the Steelers, Thus Bell has played 3 more games than him. Tate has 2 other runners that want/need carries, both of whom have been more productive than your second string guy. Bell has the statistical advantage...I never claimed otherwise, I mean...haven't you done your fucking research on all that? That does not mean that he has the talent advantage. No amount of research, other than watching them perform is going tell me otherwise.

    You very clearly only watch browns games. Bell's talent advantage is undeniable. I don't really care one way or another. Im just very glad bell is a steelers and not on some other team.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @vagitron said:

    You very clearly only watch browns games. Bell's talent advantage is undeniable. I don't really care one way or another. Im just very glad bell is a steelers and not on some other team.

    I see as much of games as I need to. Bell's production advantage is undeniable. I am not sure about his talent advantage. If Tate were given the same opportunities that Bell has had he may have equalled or bettered his production.

    Why hasn't Tate had the same opportunities? Injuries. Fewer games played. Better competition on his team than Bell.

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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    Why did this turn into a steelers thread.

    Everybody who does well is a HOFer best on the game in stooler eyes, they only got spanked by us because of the refs. I've heard it all.

  • Why did this turn into a steelers thread.

    Everybody who does well is a HOFer best on the game in stooler eyes, they only got spanked by us because of the refs. I've heard it all.

    ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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    @bbedward said:

    Why did this turn into a steelers thread.

    Thats easy. It's Vag.

    He has stated he will only chime in when we are talking Stools(thanks vag). So, since there are no Stools threads here, the "this week in the Afc" thread becomes his only ticket.

    Then, after the game is long over and no one cares anymore, he can yak and yak and yak to anyone who's interested. Seems like a fair arrangement to me. After all, we aint playing the Steelers for another year and no one here wants to talk about them, so what else can he do?