weeden vs mccoy

TheDawgPound23

im proud of colt. im a huge browns and eagles fan. and dallas was sickening me with their 6-1 rec. glad colt knocked them off even though that D played great.

tiamat63

I always wondered how Colt would have played had he not suffered that freak hit from Dareus and actually had WR's to throw to in Cleveland. Specifically that hit, though. It really changed him, physically and mentally.

I loved him in College, so excited when we got the chance to pick him in the 3rd.

Canton Dawg

@bbedward said:

two browns draft busts facing off in prime time. I'm loving it.

Just think, this monumental meeting between the QB's of Cleveland past took place on Brady Quinn's birthday.

Ibleedbrown

@the-gipper said:
I saw Mott the Hoople at JCU...and the backup band was Aerosmith.....as was right.

All the young dudes...

I had no idea what happened in MNF until l went into work today and heard the known Dallas fan say, "we shoulda left Weeden in..."

I couldn't help but pop around the corner and ask him what the hell he was talking about.

Actually l did that Scooby Doo "Hrrr?" noise he makes when he has a question, which is the equivalent of "what the hell are you talking about."

bbedward

@ibleedbrown said:

All the young dudes...

I had no idea what happened in MNF until l went into work today and heard the known Dallas fan say, "we shoulda left Weeden in..."

I couldn't help but pop around the corner and ask him what the hell he was talking about.

Actually l did that Scooby Doo "Hrrr?" noise he makes when he has a question, which is the equivalent of "what the hell are you talking about."

They shoulda left Weeden in because putting in Romo was a big risk for the rest of their season. Romo's having a great year, 100+ QBR, etc. - not having them changes their post season predicament quite a bit. (Even if it is romo)

Weeden wasn't in for very long but I guess he had a few nice throws.

miktoxic

all the young dudes written by bowie and given to ian hunter. sorta as a "if you can't make this a hit, you must really suck" type thing.

The Cysko Kid

@jrb12711 said:
The funniest part last night to me was how many times they panned to Colt McCoy's dad when he did something good. Weeden still has a face that I want to punch for no reason other than how it looks.

Yes Weeden has a highly punchable face.

hoorta

@everlastingxxx said:

The insulting my screen name i dont like. Ill own up to anything i say. I posted in another thread that the Skins always play the Cowboys hard.

uggg, im out, im pissed!

Hello? Now you possibly feel about like us losing to the sucking Jags?

@everlastingxxx said:

They always suck you in. Give you hope. Then break your heart.

Anyways, still 6-2 and in first place. Not all is lost. Weeden looked pretty damn good. Wish they would have kept him in.

Weeden sucks- just give him time- trurst us.

@westside-steve said:

reminds me of when James Taylor opened for the who in Cleveland and was nearly booed off the stage. The next year the who returned and Pete Townshend called out crowd for being assholes the previous year since Taylor was now a big star.

WSS

If that's the immortal 1970 concert Steve- it wasn't Taylor. It was Joe Wash & the James Gang as the opening act. Don't recall Taylor getting booed either.

Do remember Dan Hicks & the Hot Licks getting booed off the stage but the main attraction was Johnny Winter- talk about piss poor scheduling.

@tour2ma said:

I saw Dan Hicks and His Hot Licks booed off the Public Auditorium stage. Promoter had for some reason sandwiched them between Redbone (not Leon) and Steppenwolf.

Billy Bass did not wait a year... he ripped the crowd a new one that nite...

JCU??? I knew there was something wrong with you...

Dan Hicks- a band that should be forgotten. Are you stupid, or what? You want to trot our your kind of act before that sort of stuff?

Westside Steve

that's the immortal 1970 concert Steve- it wasn't Taylor. It was Joe Wash & the James Gang as the opening act. Don't recall Taylor getting booed either

I'm talking about James Taylor opening for the Who.

WSS

Zombo

WeDone v McFrye delivered highest MNF ratings since 2009. I'm sure they got a boost from NE Ohio.

Zombo

The Gipper

@miktoxic said:
all the young dudes written by bowie and given to ian hunter. sorta as a "if you can't make this a hit, you must really suck" type thing.

Mott the Hoople had plenty of good songs ...and some very good albums all on their own. In fact, they do the Dudes song much better than Bowie does.

The Gipper

Zombo said:

WeDone v McFrye delivered highest MNF ratings since 2009. I'm sure they got a boost from NE Ohio.

Zombo

Will probably land higher ratings than Brady vs. Manning coming up this week. And hey, there is a game coming up Pittsburgh vs. Cinci.....maybe both BR and Duelin' Dalton can perish in a shootout and we will have Jason Campbell vs. Bruce Gradkowski.

Manzier

@the-gipper said:
.....maybe both BR and Duelin' Dalton can perish in a shootout and we will have Jason Campbell vs. Bruce Gradkowski.

I'd watch that !

FALCON7

What about Derek A:

40 for 57, 70.2%, 424 Yards, 4 TD's, 0 Int's

hoorta

@falcon7 said:

What about Derek A:
40 for 57, 70.2%, 424 Yards, 4 TD's, 0 Int's

As Agent Smith said in the Matrix- "I'm going to enjoy watching you die, Mr Anderson."

Tour2ma

@the-gipper said:
Weeden's release is very quick.....when he makes quick decisions.

No... he does not have a quick release. You are still confusing arm speed with release.

@miktoxic said:
all the young dudes written by bowie and given to ian hunter. sorta as a "if you can't make this a hit, you must really suck" type thing.

Bowie also produced the Dudes LP and played Sax on it...

Bowie promised one group and one individual he would take them with him if he ever made it big...

Mott the Hoople and Lou Reed

Bowie idolized Reed.

Bowie co-produced Lou's Transformer LP with his Spiders' guitarist, Mick Ronson.

The Gipper

@tour2ma said:

No... he does not have a quick release. You are still confusing arm speed with release.

Semantics. When Weeden wanted to get a throw out he did it if fine fashion. No one debates that he was often confused.

Bowie also produced the Dudes LP and played Sax on it...

Bowie promised one group and one individual he would take them with him if he ever made it big...

Mott the Hoople and Lou Reed

Bowie idolized Reed.

Bowie co-produced Lou's Transformer LP with his Spiders' guitarist, Mick Ronson.

If your point is that Mott the Hoople road Bowie's coattails....perhaps, a little. But coattails do you no good if you are no good, but Mott the Hoople was good. And if your point is that Lou Reed rode Bowie's coattails, while no doubt they were collaborators, Reed was an American, not a Brit, and The Velvet Underground as far as I know had a presence here wholly without the help of Bowie.

Tour2ma

@hoorta said:
Do remember Dan Hicks & the Hot Licks getting booed off the stage but the main attraction was Johnny Winter- talk about piss poor scheduling.

I saw Johnny Winter of '70 down at Public Aud. It was after release of his Live and... LP's Took the rapid downtown from Case. Terrible weather...

The headliner, Mountain, was doing their Climbing tour, but Hopkins closed down and they never made it into town. Johnny started playing about 90 minutes late and played for an hour plus.

Then we got full refunds...

@the-gipper said:

@tour2ma said:

No... he does not have a quick release. You are still confusing arm speed with release.

Semantics. When Weeden wanted to get a throw out he did it if fine fashion. No one debates that he was often confused.

Bowie also produced the Dudes LP and played Sax on it...

Bowie promised one group and one individual he would take them with him if he ever made it big...

Mott the Hoople and Lou Reed

Bowie idolized Reed.

Bowie co-produced Lou's Transformer LP with his Spiders' guitarist, Mick Ronson.

If your point is that Mott the Hoople road Bowie's coattails....perhaps, a little. But coattails do you no good if you are no good, but Mott the Hoople was good. And if your point is that Lou Reed rode Bowie's coattails, while no doubt they were collaborators, Reed was an American, not a Brit, and The Velvet Underground as far as I know had a presence here wholly without the help of Bowie.

Semantics? Sure.. why not... if it helps you.

And no point about Mott or Lou... also no coattails... just facts.

Bowie liked and mentored Mott... gave them a leg up when they were about to give up and disband.

Although critically praised, the VU was a commercial flop. Its real fame came later. Lou had quit VU, gone solo and was struggling. His first, S/T LP did not sell well at all, but Bowie loved his music and helped get him going again. Transformer was Lou's best selling LP.

bbedward

Orange85 said:
I am prepared to get hammered on this board for saying this, but the game the other night proved one thing to me..it made the Browns look really bad. Two QBs that were mismanaged badly in Cleveland move on to new teams and both looked really good. Granted Weeden was only in for 2 series, but looked better than Romo if we are all honest. Makes you scratch your head and wonder. Good for Colt. Don't know if you watched the post game interview, but he gave a lot of praise to Weeden as well. Both guys are class acts. I have had the opportunity to meet both.

I don't doubt that they're class acts. McCoys OK but he has the true definition of a noodle arm. He wouldn't (and didn't) last in the AFCN. Also, the 49ers cut him, and he got benched again in WASH for rg3.

Weeden had just that, 2 series. He's a guy who got rightfully benched for Brian Hoyer and Jason Campbell.

The Gipper

Having those two guys play against each other and supposedly "look good" does not mean that Cleveland looks bad. Look at their records here if you think they are any good

...and FYI, if those two became the starting QBs for their teams the rest of the season, those teams would both be lucky to win a third of their remaining games.

...and another FYI....they have now both been benched in favor of who their teams believe are real starting QBs. So let's not hear anymore touting of the qualities of McCoy and Weeden.