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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @bonedawg said:

    Bucs just traded their starting safety Mark Barron to the Rams for some draft picks. They have packed it in for the year. We will look BAD if we don't beat them.

    Remember when people said the same thing when we traded richardson? Just because they traded someone, doesn't mean they're going to roll over.

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    @gftchris said:

    Remember when people said the same thing when we traded richardson? Just because they traded someone, doesn't mean they're going to roll over.

    How many games did we win last year?

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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      The game immediately after we traded him, which is the relevant part.

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        ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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        The bucs had Jackson, Thomas AND Barron all on the blocks today. That was ALL the talk everywhere. So I think it's fair for people to perceive that their FO has given up on the season and is looking toward the future.

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          The bucs had Jackson, Thomas AND Barron all on the blocks today. That was ALL the talk everywhere. So I think it's fair for people to perceive that their FO has given up on the season and is looking toward the future.

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          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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          @manzier said:

          The bucs had Jackson, Thomas AND Barron all on the blocks today. That was ALL the talk everywhere. So I think it's fair for people to perceive that their FO has given up on the season and is looking toward the future.

          All I'm saying is, it looked a lot like our ex-FO had given up on the season, but that apparently only galvanised the team for that short stretch (coinciding with Brian Hoyer playing).

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            ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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            Ok. Its just perception I guess. And Im talking FO nad not necessarily team.

            I think the Browns FO got a great offer for a less than productive player and they just couldnt refuse. I dont think they were throwing in the towel on the season at all. I think they were throwing in the towel on Richardson AND getting paid to do it!

            Conversely, no one is offering the Bucs anything. They are "shopping" 3 of their higher paid players looking to dump them(and their salaries) mid season. It's a little different.

            Now., That doesnt speak to the Bucs players at all. In fact, it MAY just galvanize them exactly like you're saying. No one says the players and FO are ever on the same page. So maybe the players(esp the ones offered up for sale) might step up to make a point.

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              @manzier said:

              The bucs had Jackson, Thomas AND Barron all on the blocks today. That was ALL the talk everywhere. So I think it's fair for people to perceive that their FO has given up on the season and is looking toward the future.

              All I'm saying is, it looked a lot like our ex-FO had given up on the season, but that apparently only galvanised the team for that short stretch (coinciding with Brian Hoyer playing).

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              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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              @gftchris said:

              All I'm saying is, it looked a lot like our ex-FO had given up on the season, but that apparently only galvanised the team for that short stretch (coinciding with Brian Hoyer playing).

              I think our situation was a bit different than the Bucs. The Bucs almost assuredly are giving up on the season (and they probably should, tbh)

              Our fans had a crazy reaction because, as is often the case, our fans are wrong a lot. Everybody thought we were giving up in only week 3 because we traded our "best player" and announced we'd start the worst QB on the roster who never did anything anywhere.

              Well, turns out sometimes the coaching staff and FO know a little bit more than the fans (shocking, I know). Because we traded Richardson for Manziel, and that loser QB we started in week 3 last year was the chosen starter, and has kept that job for all of 2014 so far.

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                B bonedawg wrote on last edited by
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                I'm not saying the it is going to be a cakewalk. We struggled mightily with both Jax and Oak more because of our play than the quality on the other side of the ball. This is a Bucs team that has already been accused of giving up during games this season and the FO "shopping" all their talent around probably doesn't send a great message to players. All I am saying is if we lose, it will say more about us than it says about them.

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                  Ok. Its just perception I guess. And Im talking FO nad not necessarily team.

                  I think the Browns FO got a great offer for a less than productive player and they just couldnt refuse. I dont think they were throwing in the towel on the season at all. I think they were throwing in the towel on Richardson AND getting paid to do it!

                  Conversely, no one is offering the Bucs anything. They are "shopping" 3 of their higher paid players looking to dump them(and their salaries) mid season. It's a little different.

                  Now., That doesnt speak to the Bucs players at all. In fact, it MAY just galvanize them exactly like you're saying. No one says the players and FO are ever on the same page. So maybe the players(esp the ones offered up for sale) might step up to make a point.

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  @manzier said:

                  I think the Browns FO got a great offer for a less than productive player and they just couldnt refuse. I dont think they were throwing in the towel on the season at all. I think they were throwing in the towel on Richardson AND getting paid to do it!

                  Conversely, no one is offering the Bucs anything. They are "shopping" 3 of their higher paid players looking to dump them(and their salaries) mid season. It's a little different.

                  Good analysis...

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                    Our Week 9 opponent is:

                    • 28th in passing w/ 209 ypg
                    • 29th in rushing w/ 86.4 ypg
                    • T-21 in sacks allowed w/ 19
                    • 29th in defending the pass allowing 286 ypg
                    • 22nd in defending the run allowing 124 ypg
                    • T-26 in sacks registering 10...
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                    brnfan16B brnfan16 wrote on last edited by
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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Our Week 9 opponent is:

                    • 28th in passing w/ 209 ypg
                    • 29th in rushing w/ 86.4 ypg
                    • T-21 in sacks allowed w/ 19
                    • 29th in defending the pass allowing 286 ypg
                    • 22nd in defending the run allowing 124 ypg
                    • T-26 in sacks registering 10...

                    After the egg laid in Jackville, Stats are meaningless. Really the more they lay out losing stats the more dangerous a team can be. Playing for pride anybody can knock off anybody. This is a golden chance to win the games you're suppose to win. With the Bingles looming next week a win would be a huge momentum builder. Also improving to 5 wins is steady improvement for last years nightmare...

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                      This week's Bucs game is scary because it is clear that we should win...

                      Just as we thought was the case this past Sunday...

                      Just as we thought the case the Sunday before last.

                      What we now know is that JAX is a bad team with a very good D.

                      Whereas OAK is an all-around, bad team.

                      TB looks a lot more like OAK than they do JAX.

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                      DownSouthKCD DownSouthKC wrote on last edited by
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      This week's Bucs game is scary because it is clear that we should win...

                      Just as we thought was the case this past Sunday...

                      Just as we thought the case the Sunday before last.

                      What we now know is that JAX is a bad team with a very good D.

                      Whereas OAK is an all-around, bad team.

                      TB looks a lot more like OAK than they do JAX.

                      I think Oakland is better than Jax and TB.

                      That said I think Oakland goes 0-16 this year but thats because of the schedule.

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                        @tour2ma said:

                        This week's Bucs game is scary because it is clear that we should win...

                        Just as we thought was the case this past Sunday...

                        Just as we thought the case the Sunday before last.

                        What we now know is that JAX is a bad team with a very good D.

                        Whereas OAK is an all-around, bad team.

                        TB looks a lot more like OAK than they do JAX.

                        I think Oakland is better than Jax and TB.

                        That said I think Oakland goes 0-16 this year but thats because of the schedule.

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                        ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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                        @downsouthkc said:

                        That said I think Oakland goes 0-16 this year but thats because of the schedule.

                        When I was looking at their schedule I thought the same thing. Good chance they lose em all. They do play KC twice and it's usually a hard fought divisional game(think Cleve vs our Div Rivals). So, maybe, they'll squeeze a one out. Maybe

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                        • ManzierM Manzier

                          @downsouthkc said:

                          That said I think Oakland goes 0-16 this year but thats because of the schedule.

                          When I was looking at their schedule I thought the same thing. Good chance they lose em all. They do play KC twice and it's usually a hard fought divisional game(think Cleve vs our Div Rivals). So, maybe, they'll squeeze a one out. Maybe

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                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                          @manzier said:

                          When I was looking at their schedule I thought the same thing. Good chance they lose em all. They do play KC twice and it's usually a hard fought divisional game(think Cleve vs our Div Rivals). So, maybe, they'll squeeze a one out. Maybe

                          Which is a terrible shame, because they basically hit on their first three draft picks, and any GM going 0-16 is going to be under pressure. Mack is a monster, Carr looks very solid, and Gabe Jackson, the third round guard, looks a good pick up. I know it doesn't look like it, but exciting times ahead for Oakland if they can keep hitting on their 1-2-3s. Especially if they're 1-15, get the No1 overall, the can get a boat load of picks from the Jets or Bucs for Mariota.

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                            AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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                            Bucs LT Anthony (bust) Collins is out.. This will be ugly..

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                              @downsouthkc said:

                              That said I think Oakland goes 0-16 this year but thats because of the schedule.

                              When I was looking at their schedule I thought the same thing. Good chance they lose em all. They do play KC twice and it's usually a hard fought divisional game(think Cleve vs our Div Rivals). So, maybe, they'll squeeze a one out. Maybe

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                              jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by jrb12711
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                              @manzier said:

                              When I was looking at their schedule I thought the same thing. Good chance they lose em all. They do play KC twice and it's usually a hard fought divisional game(think Cleve vs our Div Rivals). So, maybe, they'll squeeze a one out. Maybe

                              Bad teams usually tend to steal one from mediocre teams late in the season. Rams and Bills fit that mold pretty well IMO, and as stated KC could land a trap game. I wouldn't be surprised if they win 1 game.

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                                Bucs LT Anthony (bust) Collins is out.. This will be ugly..

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                @axe said:

                                Bucs LT Anthony (bust) Collins is out.. This will be ugly..

                                lol... you know it's bad when a "bust" sitting out is expected to negatively impact the result...

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                                  AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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                                  Also, this Bucs team is on pace for 23 sacks this yr.. Hoyer will have all day.. We've given up 10 sacks in the last 2 weeks.. And again, a backup Guard playing LT.. This game should be over by half time. If it isn't, then you have a problem. This Bucs team seems to like to wake from the dead and come back in 4th qtrs.. Ask Shittsburgh 😉

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                                    TomSelleckT TomSelleck wrote on last edited by
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                                    O'neil fucking Cousins starting at LT! Mike Glennon is probably getting his affairs in order as we speak

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                                      O'neil fucking Cousins starting at LT! Mike Glennon is probably getting his affairs in order as we speak

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                                      @tomselleck said:

                                      O'neil fucking Cousins starting at LT! Mike Glennon is probably getting his affairs in order as we speak

                                      lol... I did not realize who was the "next man up" when I posted a while ago... OMG...

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                                        AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by Axe
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                                        Why? It makes perfect sense.. If a guy is really struggling as a backup at the Guard position, what you need to do is move him out to Left Tackle facepalm.gif

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                                          O'neil fucking Cousins starting at LT! Mike Glennon is probably getting his affairs in order as we speak

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                                          @tomselleck said:

                                          O'neil fucking Cousins starting at LT! Mike Glennon is probably getting his affairs in order as we speak

                                          LOL.

                                          This could be good.

                                          24-0 good.

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