Where the F is Crowell

Mark O

Gilbert has played well the last 2 weeks.

tiamat63

@comeonman said:
I guess he has fumbled more than West/Tate. He is however our most electrifying runner. I think it's a little crazy he gets 0 snaps

Being an electrifying runner means little if you're a liability to put the ball on the ground.

Just ask how the Saints defense appreciated AP being an "electrifying" runner circa 09 NFC championship.

Comeonman

@tiamat63 said:

Being an electrifying runner means little if you're a liability to put the ball on the ground.

Just ask how the Saints defense appreciated AP being an "electrifying" runner circa 09 NFC championship.

lol bad comparison so far but I get what you're saying. I still don't think Crow is a liability. Could be wrong

tiamat63

@comeonman said:
lol bad comparison so far but I get what you're saying. I still don't think Crow is a liability. Could be wrong

How is that at all a bad comparison?

And it doesn't matter what any of is think, the coaching staff sees Crow as a liability. Zero carries would say that as well. So it would tend to back up one of our opinions.

gumby73

Crow hits a hole with no dance moves.I don't think this new line can open one that quick. Our best back tandem is Crow and West,would love to see it if pettine stops luvin the player and start luvin the talent.

tiamat63

@gumby73 said:
Crow hits a hole with no dance moves.I don't think this new line can open one that quick. Our best back tandem is Crow and West,would love to see it if pettine stops luvin the player and start luvin the talent.

He sat Gilbert in favor of Williams, Manziel in favor of Hoyer and West in favor of Crow the week previous.

Care to get a clue...?

Comeonman

@tiamat63 said:

He sat Gilbert in favor of Williams, Manziel in favor of Hoyer and West in favor of Crow the week previous.

Care to get a clue...?

And we are 5-3. I will concede that Pettine knows more than I do about football

Kvoethe

@tour2ma said:
Yup...Remember... with this regime you have to practice well to play.Brian and I are happy West played today...What a fuckin' block...

Play of the game IMHO

jcam222

I think we would be better of going back to Crow / Tate. Crow had the 3 fumbles in one game but I don't recall any issues prior to that game. Our running game sucks enough that it is worth the gamble with our upcoming schedule. Hook him up working with Tiki Barber. He used to be a fumble machine before he became a stud.

Kvoethe

Im not sold on taint, he reminds me of a guy who when you need 1 yard he will get you 3 and when you need 5 yards he will get you 3.

5150k9

@letsgojackets said:
block was nasty

that block gets the game ball.....

Comeonman

@5150k9 said:
that block gets the game ball.....

It was an awesome block. The flag at the end of the play scared the shit out of me

Tour2ma

@5150k9 said:
that block gets the game ball.....

certainly at least a dog bone...

Ibleedbrown

@kvoethe said:
Im not sold on taint, he reminds me of a guy who when you need 1 yard he will get you 3 and when you need 5 yards he will get you 3.

Well said.

I kinda like how Pettine is handling the 3 RBs though. Tate is like the de facto starter, but when he ain't getting it done, more carries start going to West or Crowell. And those 2 seem to have the fire under their ass constantly to compete with each other to be the primary backup, which can only be good for the team.

CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS

I like what I saw from West today. He executed in all aspects.

His block set helped set up the touchdown. He caught a TD. And he didn't dance.. and was physical, finishing runs hard.

He has some serious upside.

Tour2ma

@ibleedbrown said:
I kinda like how Pettine is handling the 3 RBs though. Tate is like the de facto starter, but when he ain't getting it done, more carries start going to West or Crowell. And those 2 seem to have the fire under their ass constantly to compete with each other to be the primary backup, which can only be good for the team.

Agree... check Pettine's post-game presser out. Talked about West earning his carries and an expanded role after "his best week of practice."

Doesn't mean Crow won't get shots Thursday nite... with fresh legs he just might. But today? No...

It does seem to me that a HC with an OC background is more tolerant of an RB losing a fumble here and there, than is a HC with a DC background. No data... just an impression...

Andruw u

Saving him for Thurs., at least that's my story for now. Fresh legs early and late in the game.

Beat the f'ing Bengals.

tiamat63

Won't matter how fresh his legs are if the line can't run block.

lodilobo

Does anyone have any reliable info on Crowell? Why aren't we using our best running back? It's not like we don't need him.

Osiris

All I've heard is part of it is his ball security issues. The coaches have said they decide who plays based on how they perform in practice (and apparently West has been tearing it up in practice), and according to Pettine, it's Montgomery, the RB coach, who determines the carries during the game.