On to Natty
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This game is the reality check for the Browns. It's been ugly but we got through the easy part of the schedule with the winning record. The Bengals are a good football team all around unlike the past three weeks. I have a real uneasy feeling on how we're gonna look but that's why it's settled on the field instead of on paper.
I have a real uneasy feeling on how we're gonna look but that's why it's settled on the field instead of on paper.
I have been uneasy before every game this year except JAX and TB... loss and narrow win. I'm starting to like "uneasy".
I'd feel better about our chances if we weren't so decimated on both sides of the line.
I'd feel better not being so on one side. Somehow or another, we have to muster a run game.
Sorry, can't see us winning this one
Have you tried squinting really hard?
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I have a real uneasy feeling on how we're gonna look but that's why it's settled on the field instead of on paper.
I have been uneasy before every game this year except JAX and TB... loss and narrow win. I'm starting to like "uneasy".
I'd feel better about our chances if we weren't so decimated on both sides of the line.
I'd feel better not being so on one side. Somehow or another, we have to muster a run game.
Sorry, can't see us winning this one
Have you tried squinting really hard?
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Where's all the bungle trolls?
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Where's all the bungle trolls?
Where's all the bungle trolls?
Wait til Friday, if they win.
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Sorry, can't see us winning this one
I know we *can*, it's certainly possible, but I've just got a feeling they're going to run all over us, even with Haden locking down Green.
Sorry, can't see us winning this one
I know we *can*, it's certainly possible, but I've just got a feeling they're going to run all over us, even with Haden locking down Green.
We got this...it's in the bag. We should've beaten them last year in Cincy. We were up like 14-0 early but then unfortunately our offense needed to play and Weedampbell happened and that ended that.
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that's the thing mark o, last year browns 0 gave up 4 turnovers in a half to cincy.
the o is a little different now, rarely turning the ball over. And just imagine if Dalton has one of his "dear lord how is he a QB in the NFL" days -
just read Leon Hall, Burfict, and Maulaga and Bernard are out.
we may be luckier than we think. who knows tho -
just read Leon Hall, Burfict, and Maulaga and Bernard are out.
we may be luckier than we think. who knows thojust read Leon Hall, Burfict, and Maulaga and Bernard are out.
we may be luckier than we think. who knows tho
Bernard won't make much difference, that Hill boi looked pretty good.
Without two starting LBs (their best LB included) and without their best CB I like our chances on O a bit more though.Their defense has been shaky as of late when healthy too.
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Bernard would make a serious difference if he was healthy. Hill is a very capable back in his own right, so I won't be quick to dismiss the damage he can do.
Actually, I'll be starting him in my league with Gio out.
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that's the thing mark o, last year browns 0 gave up 4 turnovers in a half to cincy.
the o is a little different now, rarely turning the ball over. And just imagine if Dalton has one of his "dear lord how is he a QB in the NFL" daysthat's the thing mark o, last year browns 0 gave up 4 turnovers in a half to cincy.
the o is a little different now, rarely turning the ball over. And just imagine if Dalton has one of his "dear lord how is he a QB in the NFL" days
That's kinda what I was getting at while being too lazy to go back and look up the actual stats. If Dalton gift wraps points for us like he did in Cincy last year, this game is a blowout win for the Browns because this offense doesn't turn the ball over.
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Not looking too pretty in Cinci Thursday...
Nov 6 Showers 54°/36° Showers
Chance of rain: 80% - Wind: SW at 11 mph
Not looking too pretty in Cinci Thursday...
Nov 6 Showers 54°/36° Showers
Chance of rain: 80% - Wind: SW at 11 mph
I hope the threat of rain 40% and temps in the 40s- makes a lot of the wusses stay home and watch it on TV. Then again- it's exactly what I'm going to do, instead of making the 50 mile run down to PBS. Though it doesn't affect me- if you have a normal day job- a Thursday night game makes for a rather rough Friday morning- unless you've already planned to make a long weekend out of it.
The Browns are going to have to learn how to stop the run in a hurry. The Bungles have Bernard and Hill just scored 28.00 points for my fantasy teams. Also they're going to have to figure out how to get Tate, West and Crowell more involved. They definitely do not look good now that Alex Mack is out and Hoyer is no Tom Brady no matter what the rose colored glasses think.
Bernard is probably out, as was posted, so is Hall. No Burfict,probably no Malaluga. They are more even beat up than us.
Where's all the bungle trolls?
I do miss Umadogg- make that Umatroll. one of the few smart and loyal Bungle fans on the planet.
just read Leon Hall, Burfict, and Maulaga and Bernard are out.
we may be luckier than we think. who knows tho
Beat me to it. Browns must stop Hall from running for 200 yards, establish their own running game (Bengals almost as bad as us in run D), and force Dalton into a couple of turnovers.
BTW, AG Green is far from 100%.
The bad? Bungles are 12-0-1 of late at home.
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Hawk will have a big game against his former team. I think we have the advantage over Cincy in the run game . We have three healthy running backs ( I think Pettine saved the Crow intentionally for this game). If we can keep Hill from putting up a 100 yds. we win. Ball control , time of possession and a +1 in turnovers is key, Field goals will be crucial in this one. Browns 23-20.
GO BROWNS !
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Thursday night can be crazy. I just read an interesting article that has this stat:
2014 average margin of victory for ALL games on Sunday = 12.5 pts
2014 average margin of victory for THURDAY games = 29 pts
HOLY CRAP!!!!
It's gonna be a blow out. And I think it will be the Bungles who crash and burn. No stats to back it. Just a hunch.
http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2014/10/does_thursday_night_football_i.html
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Sittin' here wondering...
If the weather is really lousy, then do we trot out our "Special Package" that features the read-option?
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Sittin' here wondering...
If the weather is really lousy, then do we trot out our "Special Package" that features the read-option?
Sittin' here wondering...
If the weather is really lousy, then do we trot out our "Special Package" that features the read-option?
I wouldn't be surprised.
Here is part of an interesting article FROM APRIL(before the draft), where Pettine 'basically' says rookie QB's are better off sitting and learning. He also mentions Kaepernick as a "package player" his first year. This should help to show that things are as he wanted them from the very start. Even BEFORE JFF was drafted, he said he would prefer the rookie to sit if at all possible. And he might work him into special situations, if at all possible. Here are the highlights:
Bucking the NFL's trend of the past half-decade, Pettine emphasized that it's "extremely difficult" for a quarterback to succeed as a rookie starter.
"When you look at the history of the league whether it was (Tom) Brady or whether it was Aaron Rodgers, or Carson Palmer (they waited)," Pettine explained Tuesday, via The Plain Dealer. "Even Russell Wilson sat for a little bit and (Colin) Kaepernick was a package player his first year."
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just read Leon Hall, Burfict, and Maulaga and Bernard are out.
we may be luckier than we think. who knows tho
Bernard won't make much difference, that Hill boi looked pretty good.
Without two starting LBs (their best LB included) and without their best CB I like our chances on O a bit more though.Their defense has been shaky as of late when healthy too.
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Comparing Defenses:
We're both tied for 30th in rush defense at 139.6 yards/game; and 29th in rush avg at 4.8 YPC.
Browns rank 18th in pass defense at 252.1 yards/game
Cincy ranks 21st at 255.2 yards/game
Browns rank 19h in sacks with 17
Cincy ranks 25th with 13
Browns rank 28th in total defense yards at 391.8 yards/game on
Cincy ranks 30th at 394.9 yards/game
Browns rank 8th in scoring defense at 21.1 points/game
Cincy ranks 17th at 23.4 points/game
So, actually our defenses aren't very far apart. We rank better in almost every category, really, except run D where we are exactly tied in two categories.
We seem to be doing a better job of keeping opponents out of the endzone, so the slight advantage on D goes to Cleveland...
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Comparing Offenses:
Cincy ranks 9th in rushing yards at 121.4 yards/game
Browns rank 15th at 111.2 yards/game
Browns rank 14th in passing yards at 241.0 yards/game
Cincy ranks 15th with 240.2 yards/game
Cincy ranks 12th in total yards, Browns rank 14th; with a difference of 9.4 yards per game
Cincy ranks 13th in scoring offense, with 24.2 points/game
Browns rank 16th with 23.1 points/game
Cincy is 19th in touchdowns, Browns are 21st;
Cincy is 1st in rushing TDs, Browns are 5th
Browns are 29th in passing TDs, Cincy is 30th
Browns rank 7th in Turnover differential at +6
Cincy ranks 12th at +3
These teams rank very similarly, but give the slight advantage to Cincinnati on offense (1.1 more points per game, and 9.4 yards per game... again very slight advantage). The two largest ranking differences are 1) Cincy's advantage in rushing yards, and 2) the Browns advantage in the Turnover differential.
Should make for a great matchup...
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Comparing Offenses:
Cincy ranks 9th in rushing yards at 121.4 yards/game
Browns rank 15th at 111.2 yards/game
Browns rank 14th in passing yards at 241.0 yards/game
Cincy ranks 15th with 240.2 yards/game
Cincy ranks 12th in total yards, Browns rank 14th; with a difference of 9.4 yards per game
Cincy ranks 13th in scoring offense, with 24.2 points/game
Browns rank 16th with 23.1 points/game
Cincy is 19th in touchdowns, Browns are 21st;
Cincy is 1st in rushing TDs, Browns are 5th
Browns are 29th in passing TDs, Cincy is 30th
Browns rank 7th in Turnover differential at +6
Cincy ranks 12th at +3
These teams rank very similarly, but give the slight advantage to Cincinnati on offense (1.1 more points per game, and 9.4 yards per game... again very slight advantage). The two largest ranking differences are 1) Cincy's advantage in rushing yards, and 2) the Browns advantage in the Turnover differential.
Should make for a great matchup...
Comparing Offenses:
Cincy ranks 9th in rushing yards at 121.4 yards/game
Browns rank 15th at 111.2 yards/game
Browns rank 14th in passing yards at 241.0 yards/game
Cincy ranks 15th with 240.2 yards/game
Cincy ranks 12th in total yards, Browns rank 14th; with a difference of 9.4 yards per game
Cincy ranks 13th in scoring offense, with 24.2 points/game
Browns rank 16th with 23.1 points/game
Cincy is 19th in touchdowns, Browns are 21st;
Cincy is 1st in rushing TDs, Browns are 5th
Browns are 29th in passing TDs, Cincy is 30th
Browns rank 7th in Turnover differential at +6
Cincy ranks 12th at +3
These teams rank very similarly, but give the slight advantage to Cincinnati on offense (1.1 more points per game, and 9.4 yards per game... again very slight advantage). The two largest ranking differences are 1) Cincy's advantage in rushing yards, and 2) the Browns advantage in the Turnover differential.
Should make for a great matchup...
Very similar teams IMO talent wise. Maybe not necessarily in the same areas, but overall.
I was surprised to see my Bengals favored by 6. I would have thought more like 3. Guess we will see. I don't expect this to be an easy game to win for either team.
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23... getting his stat on...
Prior to the start of the season I would never have dreamt our mid point stats would be this close.
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