On to Natty
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Comparing Defenses:
We're both tied for 30th in rush defense at 139.6 yards/game; and 29th in rush avg at 4.8 YPC.
Browns rank 18th in pass defense at 252.1 yards/game
Cincy ranks 21st at 255.2 yards/game
Browns rank 19h in sacks with 17
Cincy ranks 25th with 13
Browns rank 28th in total defense yards at 391.8 yards/game on
Cincy ranks 30th at 394.9 yards/game
Browns rank 8th in scoring defense at 21.1 points/game
Cincy ranks 17th at 23.4 points/game
So, actually our defenses aren't very far apart. We rank better in almost every category, really, except run D where we are exactly tied in two categories.
We seem to be doing a better job of keeping opponents out of the endzone, so the slight advantage on D goes to Cleveland...
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Comparing Offenses:
Cincy ranks 9th in rushing yards at 121.4 yards/game
Browns rank 15th at 111.2 yards/game
Browns rank 14th in passing yards at 241.0 yards/game
Cincy ranks 15th with 240.2 yards/game
Cincy ranks 12th in total yards, Browns rank 14th; with a difference of 9.4 yards per game
Cincy ranks 13th in scoring offense, with 24.2 points/game
Browns rank 16th with 23.1 points/game
Cincy is 19th in touchdowns, Browns are 21st;
Cincy is 1st in rushing TDs, Browns are 5th
Browns are 29th in passing TDs, Cincy is 30th
Browns rank 7th in Turnover differential at +6
Cincy ranks 12th at +3
These teams rank very similarly, but give the slight advantage to Cincinnati on offense (1.1 more points per game, and 9.4 yards per game... again very slight advantage). The two largest ranking differences are 1) Cincy's advantage in rushing yards, and 2) the Browns advantage in the Turnover differential.
Should make for a great matchup...
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Comparing Offenses:
Cincy ranks 9th in rushing yards at 121.4 yards/game
Browns rank 15th at 111.2 yards/game
Browns rank 14th in passing yards at 241.0 yards/game
Cincy ranks 15th with 240.2 yards/game
Cincy ranks 12th in total yards, Browns rank 14th; with a difference of 9.4 yards per game
Cincy ranks 13th in scoring offense, with 24.2 points/game
Browns rank 16th with 23.1 points/game
Cincy is 19th in touchdowns, Browns are 21st;
Cincy is 1st in rushing TDs, Browns are 5th
Browns are 29th in passing TDs, Cincy is 30th
Browns rank 7th in Turnover differential at +6
Cincy ranks 12th at +3
These teams rank very similarly, but give the slight advantage to Cincinnati on offense (1.1 more points per game, and 9.4 yards per game... again very slight advantage). The two largest ranking differences are 1) Cincy's advantage in rushing yards, and 2) the Browns advantage in the Turnover differential.
Should make for a great matchup...
Comparing Offenses:
Cincy ranks 9th in rushing yards at 121.4 yards/game
Browns rank 15th at 111.2 yards/game
Browns rank 14th in passing yards at 241.0 yards/game
Cincy ranks 15th with 240.2 yards/game
Cincy ranks 12th in total yards, Browns rank 14th; with a difference of 9.4 yards per game
Cincy ranks 13th in scoring offense, with 24.2 points/game
Browns rank 16th with 23.1 points/game
Cincy is 19th in touchdowns, Browns are 21st;
Cincy is 1st in rushing TDs, Browns are 5th
Browns are 29th in passing TDs, Cincy is 30th
Browns rank 7th in Turnover differential at +6
Cincy ranks 12th at +3
These teams rank very similarly, but give the slight advantage to Cincinnati on offense (1.1 more points per game, and 9.4 yards per game... again very slight advantage). The two largest ranking differences are 1) Cincy's advantage in rushing yards, and 2) the Browns advantage in the Turnover differential.
Should make for a great matchup...
Very similar teams IMO talent wise. Maybe not necessarily in the same areas, but overall.
I was surprised to see my Bengals favored by 6. I would have thought more like 3. Guess we will see. I don't expect this to be an easy game to win for either team.
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23... getting his stat on...
Prior to the start of the season I would never have dreamt our mid point stats would be this close.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
23... getting his stat on...
Prior to the start of the season I would never have dreamt our mid point stats would be this close.
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Simple..We don't stop the run, we gun a see it all nite. We slow down the run get to 3rd and 4 to 5 yards to go.It's game on,Turn the Dawgs loose in Andy's face and the red rifle is a turnover machine and a flustrated mess. Field position always dictates this matchup.We all know it's time for a PURR Fet, game on the road like Saint's and Squeeler's at home.Rumble in the jungle and Go Browns!!
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Official Report
Cleveland Browns Injuries
Player Position Injury Practice Status Game Status
Johnson Bademosi S Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice Out
Jordan Cameron TE Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice Out
Desmond Bryant DE Wrist Full Participation in Practice Probable
Taylor Gabriel WR Shoulder Full Participation in Practice Probable
Brian Hoyer QB Glute Full Participation in Practice Probable
Barkevious Mingo LB Shoulder Full Participation in Practice Probable
Rodney Smith WR Hamstring Full Participation in Practice Probable
Andrew Hawkins WR Thigh Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable
Phillip Taylor DE Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable
William Winn DE Toe Limited Participation in Practice Questionable
Cincinnati Bengals Injuries
Player Position Injury Practice Status Game Status
Giovani Bernard RB Hip Did Not Participate In Practice Doubtful
Rey Maualuga LB Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Doubtful
Andre Smith T Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Doubtful
Leon Hall CB Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice Out
Vontaze Burfict LB Knee Out (Definitely Will Not Play) Out
Jermaine Gresham TE Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Probable
Terence Newman CB Chest Did Not Participate In Practice Probable
Darqueze Dennard CB Hamstring Full Participation in Practice Probable
Kevin Zeitler G Calf Full Participation in Practice Probable
Robert Geathers DE Shoulder Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable -
Are we going to have Winn - Rubin - Taylor back up front? Add Kitchen and D.Bryant, and it looks like we got the big uglies back in tact (minus Hughes & A.Bryant)... hopefully they can eat some blockers at let the LBs make some plays...
If the front 7 can get pressure, expect Whitner and Gipson to be in position to make plays
Haden will be busy with Green all day... taking him out of the game
Key matchup: Sanu vs. Skrine/Gilbert ... Hopefully we can prevent the big play from killing us...
We NEED Hawkins!!!! Without him we're in trouble...
I'm expecting West to do most the damage on the ground, while Hawkins/Austin/Gabriel handle the catches, but also utilizing Dray in the redzone...
Hoyer just needs to keep playing smart with the ball...
Key Matchups: Schwartz vs Carlos Dunlap & Greco/McDonald/Bitonio vs Peko/Atkins ... Hopefully we can open up some running lanes, and protect Hoyer enough to at least be efficient on offense...
If we play smart, on both sides of the ball, and convert a few 3rd downs while getting a few stops on D... it'll be a close ugly game, just the way we like it...
Browns 20 - Bengals 17
#Justsayin' -
Simple..We don't stop the run, we gun a see it all nite. We slow down the run get to 3rd and 4 to 5 yards to go.It's game on,Turn the Dawgs loose in Andy's face and the red rifle is a turnover machine and a flustrated mess. Field position always dictates this matchup.We all know it's time for a PURR Fet, game on the road like Saint's and Squeeler's at home.Rumble in the jungle and Go Browns!!
Simple..We don't stop the run, we gun a see it all nite. We slow down the run get to 3rd and 4 to 5 yards to go.It's game on,Turn the Dawgs loose in Andy's face and the red rifle is a turnover machine and a flustrated mess. Field position always dictates this matchup.We all know it's time for a PURR Fet, game on the road like Saint's and Squeeler's at home.Rumble in the jungle and Go Browns!!
Last year though it was the Browns that were the turnover machine down in Cincy. Of course we want no repeat of that.
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Simple..We don't stop the run, we gun a see it all nite. We slow down the run get to 3rd and 4 to 5 yards to go.It's game on,Turn the Dawgs loose in Andy's face and the red rifle is a turnover machine and a flustrated mess. Field position always dictates this matchup.We all know it's time for a PURR Fet, game on the road like Saint's and Squeeler's at home.Rumble in the jungle and Go Browns!!
Last year though it was the Browns that were the turnover machine down in Cincy. Of course we want no repeat of that.
Last year though it was the Browns that were the turnover machine down in Cincy. Of course we want no repeat of that.
So far, our offense is about as good as it gets at protecting the ball. (Knock on wood)
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Comparing Defenses:
We're both tied for 30th in rush defense at 139.6 yards/game; and 29th in rush avg at 4.8 YPC.
Browns rank 18th in pass defense at 252.1 yards/game
Cincy ranks 21st at 255.2 yards/game
Browns rank 19h in sacks with 17
Cincy ranks 25th with 13
Browns rank 28th in total defense yards at 391.8 yards/game on
Cincy ranks 30th at 394.9 yards/game
Browns rank 8th in scoring defense at 21.1 points/game
Cincy ranks 17th at 23.4 points/game
So, actually our defenses aren't very far apart. We rank better in almost every category, really, except run D where we are exactly tied in two categories.
We seem to be doing a better job of keeping opponents out of the endzone, so the slight advantage on D goes to Cleveland...
Browns rank 8th in scoring defense at 21.1 points/game
Isn't that what it's all about?
8th with a bullet ... and totally top notch in the second halves of games.
This could be the game that this Pettine defense really comes together and we ride the wave ...
Zombo
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Are we going to have Winn - Rubin - Taylor back up front? Add Kitchen and D.Bryant, and it looks like we got the big uglies back in tact (minus Hughes & A.Bryant)... hopefully they can eat some blockers at let the LBs make some plays...
If the front 7 can get pressure, expect Whitner and Gipson to be in position to make plays
Haden will be busy with Green all day... taking him out of the game
Key matchup: Sanu vs. Skrine/Gilbert ... Hopefully we can prevent the big play from killing us...
We NEED Hawkins!!!! Without him we're in trouble...
I'm expecting West to do most the damage on the ground, while Hawkins/Austin/Gabriel handle the catches, but also utilizing Dray in the redzone...
Hoyer just needs to keep playing smart with the ball...
Key Matchups: Schwartz vs Carlos Dunlap & Greco/McDonald/Bitonio vs Peko/Atkins ... Hopefully we can open up some running lanes, and protect Hoyer enough to at least be efficient on offense...
If we play smart, on both sides of the ball, and convert a few 3rd downs while getting a few stops on D... it'll be a close ugly game, just the way we like it...
Browns 20 - Bengals 17
We NEED Hawkins!!!! Without him we're in trouble...
I'm expecting West to do most the damage on the ground, while Hawkins/Austin/Gabriel handle the catches, but also utilizing Dray in the redzone...
Hoyer just needs to keep playing smart with the ball...
Key Matchups: Schwartz vs Carlos Dunlap & Greco/McDonald/Bitonio vs Peko/Atkins ... Hopefully we can open up some running lanes, and protect Hoyer enough to at least be efficient on offense...
If we play smart, on both sides of the ball, and convert a few 3rd downs while getting a few stops on D... it'll be a close ugly game, just the way we like it...
Browns 20 - Bengals 17
If you want to believe the crawl line on NFLN- Hawkins is inactive- not good.
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Hoyer continues his streak of never losing to Cincinnati
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Zombo said:
Isn't that what it's all about?
8th with a bullet ... and totally top notch in the second halves of games.
This could be the game that this Pettine defense really comes together and we ride the wave ...
Zombo
You nailed that one.
Not the performance I was expecting last night
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